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Probably the worst movie i've ever seen


I almost wish i was over exaggerating but this is the biggest pile of hipster-garbage gibberish i have ever laid my eyes on. I only got to around the 1h 10 min mark because it had a high rating in imdb, and oh how it just goes to show that imdb rating isnt something you can rely on.

The only explanation i can come up with is this; there is an army of harry potter whiteknighting emma watson nerds here who give an automatic 10 to every movie she is in. That or the feminists did it, because this writer-director obviously hates men. They just happen to share the common ol' story how you will get molested by men when you are a 10 year old girl. Really? Right-o, i will be sure to never watch another movie from this director/writer, or anything with emma watson in it. She is the definition of overrated. Goodbye.

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I have to agree. I read the book and loved it, so I decided to watch the movie. I'd like that 2 hours of my life back. I can't believe that the same person who wrote the book wrote THIS movie. I'm guessing there were a lot of notes from the studio and time constraints. For as much as I loved the book, that's how much I hated the movie.

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I'm guessing there were a lot of notes from the studio and time constraints.


What did you want, a three-hour epic?

It has been awhile since I read the book, but the author did the best he could to avoid overplaying the issues Charlie was dealing with (his friend's suicide, aunt Helen). He mostly succeeded in my book.


Are we beginning to see the possibilities here?

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i'll admit i haven't finished this movie just yet, but i can promise you this is by far NOT the worst movie i have ever seen.

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this person is unarguably one of the many illiterates surfing the web nowadays , not_to_worry he probably thinks his mom is better than Emma Watson. DAFTARD

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Yes, definitely one of the worst. The kids were not acting like high school age, just neurotics. If you want to see an angst movie about change that wasn't media focused on abnormal issues (molestation, gay) of normal people, but about adapting to new environments, go see Sterile Cuckoo, Breakfast Club etc. This leaves people with the idea all the wallflowers were broken people.

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I concur with OP. In fact, Emma Watson's presence in this movie alone is enough to indicate its feminist overtones. Everybody knows how much that b*tch hates men in real life. She might just be a lesbian in the making, not that it is any of my business, but I believe her male fans are mostly those stupid horny men who always think with their dicks rather than their brains and would shag up with anyone with a hole without looking at the QUALITY of the woman; those same stupid men get used by feminists as their 'white knight' pimps to advance their agenda of misandry. No REAL man would ever support her or her movies; plus she has no real acting skills to begin with: she just got famous because of her looks, period!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKMWtLUsqsM

One of my listeners has just alerted me to a video of a speech that was released yesterday on the HeForShe Youtube channel. The speech was done at the United Nations by Harry Potter Actress, Emma Watson. She is launching a campaign called HeForShe. Even the title of the organization is suggesting that men should be utilities used for women. I'm including a link to the HeForShe speech at the United Nations in the description below. Larissa brought this to my attention and this is what she has to say: "Sandman, notice in the first few sentences of the article it says she wants gender equality and that Emma Watson is launching her new initiative called HeForShe. From what I gotten from the article according to my opinion, HeForShe is basically a utility campaign where she wants Men to do stuff for women and men to give up their rights for women calling it gender equality. Then she mentions stats about male suicide in the UK to cover up the real feminism agendas. Emma wants to launch her initiative through the United Nations to worldwide women to adopt the HEForShe agendas. This should be pointed out to your viewers. There was also some angry females like myself against feminism by speaking out by commenting on Yahoo news comments section. There were also men who were sharing their own experiences of feminists on Yahoo comments. I was very pleased of seeing men being upset and speaking out. It confirms the MGTOW movement is strong and growing. Thank You. Well, that's what Larissa has to say. I don't know what her real motivation is behind supporting men going their own way. Hopefully she can fill us in, in the comments section below. But none the less, thanks for bringing this video to our attention. The first thing I noticed about this video is that the comments section is closed. I also noticed that the thumbs up and thumbs down is disabled when you watch the video on Google. On the yahoo comments section where this video is posted there are almost forty five hundred comments. I'm not going to pull out any comments that stand out from Yahoo."

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Dude, you are rambling like a classic, rabid "mens right" guy. WTF is all of that about? You are quoting something that one of your "listeners" alerted you to? Are you Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly? Which is it? Then you spend an entire overlong paragraph quoting some rambling yahoo comments?

Feminism is about the rights of the entire half of the population of the world - actually women make up 51% of the world's population. By all credible standards women such as the World Health Org, women all over the world are battered, raped, abused, openly and not so openly discriminated against, under paid, underfed, often purposely undereducated to keep them "dumb", etc etc etc etc etc! This is fact. If Emma Watson wants to point stuff like that out and stand up I support of 51% of the population of the world, she is a right on chick and I admire her for it.

I'm always fascinated by people who have that kneejerk oh so revealing reaction to feminism or strong women who speak out. Do you have the same visceral reaction to say, the Black Lives Matter movement? To things like It Gets Better - the gay rights thing? To those who champion the human rights of marginalized groups generally? I'm guessing not. Meaning you just hate women because ... who knows what is up with you guys? I suspect you have mommy issues and can't stand strong women who won't kowtow to you, won't recognize their 'place'.

Show me your posts denouncing gay rights groups or pro gay films, the rights of African Americans or blacks elsewhere or films supporting that or stars of films who hold those views in real life. Where is your criticism or stars of films that are pro-Israel? Pro the rights of people who are in the U.S. or elsewhere undocumented?

Feminism, again, is about supporting 51% of the population of the world. It's in support of YOUR mother, YOUR gf (though I doubt you've ever had one - at least one who wasn't rock bottom miserable), YOUR aunt, sister, daughter, female coworkers and friends, etc.

Get with it, man! Wake the hell up and see how sadly and alarmingly angry you are against 51% of the world - against the people whose pants you want to get into. If people who proudly stand up for the rights of women (SUCH AS THE OTHER STAR OF THIS FILM - EZRA MILLER) are "bitches" - you are so ORIGINAL btw! - then I and Ezra and Emma and loads of others of us are TOTAL EFFING BADASS BITCHES, THANK YOU! Too bad you are such an effing Neanderthal a la Rush and Hannity and the old white guard that you can't see that. Time is passing you by - old straight white guys used to run the world - used to be able to do whatever the hell they wanted to women, to "fag-s", to jews, to blacks - not anymore, pal.

Now go run back to your sandbox with your other angry lonely frothing women-haters.






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In conclusion, I invite you to do some actual research on what feminism is about. Don't just hang out on some frothing mens' rights tumbler board nodding your head. Like actually talk to feminist men and women about what their goals are and why they are feminist. We are feminist for the same reasons that black people might support black causes, gays support gay causes, handicapped folks support wheelchair ramps, etc.

Feminists are on the side of Malala, the Pakistani girl who was shot in the head by the Taliban for the "crime" of wanting to be female and educated. This is a real thing that happened. Women are routinely having acid literally thrown in their places in places like India for the "crime" of turning down a suitor. Girls and women have their sex organs cut out at age 9 and 10 in parts of the world - otherwise known as female genital mutilation - to make them "marriageable" to what is usually middle aged men. Our sexuality is THAT much of a risk to men in some places! This is the literal equivalent of having a good portion of your penis cut off. Imagine if that practice had been normalized in several cultures of the world in order to make boys "marriageable" to middle aged (or any) woman. It's disgusting and so revealing it would almost be laughable if it weren't fact. Women in some cultures who have been raped bring "shame" onto their families and male relatives kill them for the "crime" of having been raped and bringing on shame. This again, is all FACT. Do some research! Seriously. In Saudi Arabia, women aren't allowed to be outside without a male relative, or drive. It's straight up apartheid against a whole class of people who happen to have been born female, but people like you don't see it that way - you think it doesn't effect you - so, incredibly you brush stuff like this aside as somebody whining. You take the time to call people who shed light on the plight of women world wide (again, read up on what the WHO has to say about this stuff, including the hugely widespread domestic violence and murder that goes on world wide against women) you call "bitches". And then you turn around and wanna get in a woman's pants? Dude, you and your kind make me sick.

Don't hang back with the people who pulled black folks off the lunch counter stools and beat their heads in for the "crime" of wanting to sit and eat anywhere they wanted. Don't hang back with the anti-gay/anti-marriage crowd. History has and will rightly judge those folks quite harshly, as it will judge the women-haters, and those who ridiculed the cause of women's rights, such as yourself, simply because you were angry, couldn't get laid, were willfully ignorant, or whatever the incredibly tired, lame-arse excuse is.

Educate yourself. Stop beating off to mens rights porn. Step out of your parents basement and go and talk to real live women who have brains in their heads, who aren't the Duggars, who have opinions like men do, who speak their minds, who care about oppression and basic human rights.

Thanks.




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Either wildandwilde is a lesbian woman, an effeminate man or a horny male fanboy of Emma, those are the only ones who support feminism. Gay rights, fight against racism, all have their VALID root causes which make them legit movements. With she-males like Emma around who pretends to be 'women', some men have no option but to become gays anyways. But feminism has NO legit root cause except unnecessary mass hatred against men. I don't rape women, beat women, shoot women, and I believe at least 70% of guys on earth are good guys. Plus I am yet to see any DECENT women getting raped anyways. The only ones who get raped are sluts and whores who don't have any brains to begin with; they strut along deserted streets at midnight wearing hotpants or bikinis; they have it in coming! In my considerably long life I have not seen ONE decent, moral woman getting raped or even sexually assaulted. Why is this mass hatred against men then? Simple: some women or she-males like Emma want to dominate men and USE them, just like Emma advocates,as commodities. What would one sane person call such a movement put forth by a bunch of psycho women? The internet is filled with so many hate quotes against men propagated by feminists that whatever WW says here does not even matter. What is the rationality behind such bs anyways?

"I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor

http://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/

In the end, WW is the only one who is truly 'ignorant' but of course he/she could not be bothered as W is quite happy being a pimp for feminist and advancing what he/she thinks as their just causes; ppl like WW are okay if men are called 'pigs' but would fly off the handle if someone calls women as 'bitches'


WW would also pretend that men don't get raped or battered by women, like a typical feminist
http://www.batteredmen.com/

The feminist movement has long run its course by the 90s. Women are already so empowered that they call the shots anywhere and everywhere they like, dominate and emasculate men as they think fit, demand larger payouts than men at work, demand child support from men even though they are able bodied enough to work on their own. Now if that is what feminists called equality then shame on them; this is not equality, this is tyranny and oppression by women against men. I can only imagine what the world would be like if there are more ppl like Emma and WW: we men would get castrated and sterilized (metaphorically) for sure

You talk about India, you know how Indian women are like? Newsflash, you have got no clue! Here is how Indian women treat marriages and husbands (and men in general)

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/Girl-defines-her-guy-on-website-draws-2-lakh-visitors/articleshow/46425304.cms?intenttarget=no&utm_source=TOI_AShow_OBWidget&utm_medium=Int_Ref&utm_campaign=TOI_AShow

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/vadodara/Woman-dislikes-husbands-dark-complexion-kills-him/articleshow/47037048.cms?intenttarget=no&utm_source=TOI_AShow_OBWidget&utm_medium=Int_Ref&utm_campaign=TOI_AShow

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/3-UP-girls-call-off-wedding-with-unsuitable-demanding-grooms/articleshow/47226833.cms?intenttarget=no&utm_source=TOI_AShow_OBWidget&utm_medium=Int_Ref&utm_campaign=TOI_AShow

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Pregnant-woman-kills-husband-in-Tamil-Nadu/articleshow/46166051.cms

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/dehradun/Groom-slapped-up-by-ex-girlfriend-bride-weds-brother/articleshow/46992729.cms?intenttarget=no&utm_source=TOI_AShow_OBWidget&utm_medium=Int_Ref&utm_campaign=TOI_AShow
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/Kolkata-mayors-niece-accused-of-abusing-cops/articleshow/47402215.cms

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/news/Sorry-we-are-too-busy-to-get-married/articleshow/47250273.cms?intenttarget=no&utm_source=TOI_AShow_OBWidget&utm_medium=Int_Ref&utm_campaign=TOI_AShow

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/In-search-of-freedom-she-killed-spouse-with-club-used-for-ragi-balls/articleshow/47650813.cms?intenttarget=no&utm_source=TOI_AShow_OBWidget&utm_medium=Int_Ref&utm_campaign=TOI_AShow

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kanpur/Father-in-law-kisses-girl-bride-returns-baraat/articleshow/47467234.cms

And here is why women become whores: not by 'accident' but deliberately due to their own greed

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Gadget-greed-leads-Gujarat-girl-13-to-prostitution/articleshow/47423265.cms?intenttarget=no&utm_source=TOI_AShow_OBWidget&utm_medium=Int_Ref&utm_campaign=TOI_AShow

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Dude, your statements are so revealing - do you even realize that? "Shemale"? You haven't seen one "decent" female getting raped? Well congratulations! That automatically means 1) only INdecent women get raped - meaning they deserved it, of course, and 2) since you've never seen a "decent" woman get raped, that means it doesn't happen at all. Since unless you have seen it with your own eyes, I guess that means nothing outside of your sphere of vision has ever occurred. You must be all knowing and all powerful, or something!

I admit I'm curious: Why on earth, exactly, is an angry little mens' rights man-boy such as yourself hanging out on a board about a small, sweet film such as this, featuring a super strong gay male character and strong, opinionated, 3 dimensional female leads? If as ably demonstrated by your language, you are so damned uncomfortable with effeminate men, lesbians, strong women with opinions, etc?

Why on earth do you think would the World Health Organization, and the United Nations, and a host of other global groups document so much oppression, hideous routine violence, human trafficking, discrimination, etc., against women world wide, if it were not true? Just for the hell of it?

Feminists are activists, no different than ACTUP was, no different than Black Lives Matter, or It Gets Better, or any other group that agitates on behalf of oppressed, marginalized groups. PERIOD.

You seriously need to get out in the world and stop hanging out reading the mens' rights misogyny bibles and websites. You can't go around hating and fearing and suspicious of 51% of the world's population ... or maybe you can!

I HAVE AN IDEA: How about you and your mens' rights pals buy a small island somewhere far away from the rest of us and ALL of you move there and run your own little women hating world!! NO WOMEN AT ALL! Paradise! (Except who will suck your dick?) No matter. You guys don't need women or queers like Patrick! You can do ALL of your own cooking, cleaning, and decorating! You can plan your own little wars amongst yourselves without any Code Pink protests. WON'T YOU BE SO MUCH HAPPIER!??! Now ... GO! All of you men pool your money and buy that island and live in an all straight male paradise!

PS: I won't be hanging out for your rapidly spewed, rabid little female-fearing response, because it's an effing bore, frankly - same old tired BS. I'm an adult who has seen more than my parents' basement, and hung out with and loved loads of different types of people. You should try it some time.



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It looks this monster of a poster is Indian, which explains a lot. India has a the lowest ratio of women to men in the world thanks to sex-selective abortion and infanticide - it literally hates women so much that it doesn't even want them to exist. It's also a severely sexually repressed country which is where I believe a lot of this ugliness towards women stems from.

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Oh my golly I'm assuming you're a troll because if you aren't you are the stupidest person on the planet. Seriously. If you're not a troll, you are a total *beep*

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Probably the worst movie i've ever seen

If this was the worst film I'd ever seen, I'd count myself lucky. God, the crap I've sat through, hoping it would get better.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAIJ3Rh5Qxs

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Well, if u like real manly movies like Commandos or Rambo, then u cant like this movie. I think it is a piece of art. Amazing story and great acting. Just my oppinion...
Miz tnam bi Morn... Miz heus vel leibz vazr an merag!

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