I love them all.
1. Planet Terror (2007) - 8.5
2. Hobo with a Shotgun (2011) - 8
3. Death Proof (2007) - 8
4. Machete (2010) - 7.5
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1. Planet Terror - A
2. Machete - A
3. Hobo with a Shotgun B+
4. Death Proof C+
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1.Death Proof - Great Villain, Great suspense, Great Atmosphere, and I liked the structure. Poor "Protagonists", just didn't care much about them, however I liked how anti-climatic their main concerns were before Stuntman Mike showed up. Felt like an homage, not a parody. Overall A-
2. Planet Terror- Great Characters, Great Action, Loved the gross out factor. Despite making the film seem scratched, comes off too modern and besides being billed under the title Grindhouse, doesn't feel like a Grindhouse film. It's the pacing that makes it feel too modern which makes it fail at what its attempting to be. Still I enjoyed it. B+
3. Machete- Same comments as Planet Terror: Great Characters, Action, and seediness. Doesn't feel like an old fashion B-movie like it markets itself to be. Main problem, bad casting of Alba and Rodriguez. Their performances are tone deaf. Sometimes they are perfect, other times they are off the mark completely. And while I love Trejo, There are moments when I wonder if he was asleep a few seconds before they told him the cameras were going to roll. I still enjoyed the film. B-
4. Hobo with a shotgun- A mess. Main problem is an incompetent director is still a bad director when lampooning bad films. From goofs as bad as Ed Wood(The sewer cap on the guy. The actor acts like it weighs nothing and it movies like rubber when he's in the street. Maybe intentional but doesn't come off as a gag, it comes off as just bad film making even in a parody) to different styles of acting that make the film too uneven. Hauer is great, the camera can film him doing nothing and it says something about this bum. Everyone else is so far over the top its like they exist in a completely different universe. Even when Hauer goes over the top, we still are with him because he understands what the film is doing. Everyone else just comes off like amateurs and its heightened even more when placed next to Hauer using the same awful script. I hated the lighting in the film: It's night time, they are outside, WHY ARE THEY LIT BY A NEON BLUE LIGHT? HEY? WHY IS THAT BLUE NEON LIGHT IN EVERY OTHER SCENE? It looks silly. Definitely doesn't look like a grimy grindhouse film. I love how the hooker is drinking BJ whiskey (instead of J&B), that's pretty funny. I wonder if that was the director's clever idea? And the Hospital scene an hour in IS awesomely badass. Worth seeing the film for this scene alone. I could go on more, but why bother? It's poor by Grindhouse film standards. D
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5. Hell Ride- Wow... amazingly awful. Madsen is good but he's typical Madsen. Caradine gives a decent monologue but its his delivery and not the content. Writer Director Bishop might give the worse Wannabe Tough Guy performance ever in film history. Balfour acts like he just read the script a second before he was asked to perform. Dennis Hopper isn't bad but he's so pointless it doesn't matter. And the villain, I can't remember so he must of sucked. Almost entertaining with how bad it is. Almost. If i had to say one thing good about it, it had some good looking women in it(who can't act either). If they didn't market it with Tarantino's name, this would of been shelved forever. F
In all fairness, I've seen all these films multiple times except Hobo. Maybe Hobo has to grow on me? I'll give Hobo another shot since I only watched it once. My one friend who likes it says watch it but pretend its a Troma Film and I'll enjoy it. First viewing didn't seem like it captured a Troma film but I'll give it a shot again with that in mind. It's no Street Trash which is the best Troma Film not made by Troma.
Just my honest opinion. Feel free to disagree. I'm not here to argue about whose opinion is superior. We're just two sides of the same coin that's all.
Nah, it's all good, mate.
One thing, the blue neon will make sense if you think '80s instead of '70s.
The '80s were NOTHING BUT blue neon.
Yeah I felt the direction and acting really held Hobo back. I still think it's better than Death Proof and Machete (which I hate), but Planet Terror is my favorite of these grindhouse flicks because manages retain the exploitative charm of the genre while still being a decent movie.
Hobo with a shot gun crossed every boundary and broke every barrier in terms of gratuitous violence, it practically trolled its audience and anyone who ever complained that a film didn't go far enough by giving many of us more than we could handle. I get what they were going for, but without Rutger Hauer this would have been unwatchable in my opinion. The girl was fine, but otherwise he got no help from the supporting cast until The Plague showed up. Hobo needed a Ronny Cox or a Michael Ironside to even out the acting. The neon colors burned out my retinas too.
The problem with "Death Proof" and "Planet Terror" was that unlike "Hobo with a Shotgun" they weren't really authentic to the grindhouse genre. In the 70s and 80s, grindhouse movies didn't have budgets that ranged in the 10s of millions ($53,000,000 to be exact), CGI effects, big stunt work, or big name actors like Rose McGowan, Josh Brolin, Michael Beihn or Bruce Willis, or big name directors like Robert Rodriguez or Quentin Tarantino. They had cheesy gore effects made from whatever concoction, budgets sometimes as low as less than $10,000, low scale set pieces, and no-names (Rutger Hauer excepted) like Molly Dunsworth, Brian Downey and Gregory Smith, and directors whose experience was nothing but Z-Grade movies, made on the cheap, like Jason Eisner, director of this. The opening credits are a perfect example of what I've been talking about, the music, the train, the yellowish-red tint, it was a more authentic grindhouse moment than any and every moment in "Planet Terror", "Death Proof" and "Machete".
Budgets deflated to 1973 (just for example)
"Grindhouse" (2007): $11,349,365 ("Jaws" (1975) and "Star Wars" (1977) were made for less)
"Hobo with a Shotgun" $1,381,708
That is very true. I think Hobo With a Shotgun is a true modern Grindhouse film, whereas Planet Terror and Death Proof 'emulate' the genre. Emulation is not as authentic, although I still love all four films. Realistically, it's more accurate to say that Tarantino & Rodriguez's films are "inspired by Grindhouse cinema", whereas Hobo With a Shotgun is the real deal.
shareCouldn't have said it better myself.
Favourite movie of all time: "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan"
thank both of you
shareExactly! Don't know what this Tom_Cruises_Testicles and his essay are talking about, he needs to re-watch HWAS without his wife writing for him.
share1. Hobo with a Shotgun - 10/10 - This was the most fun I had in theaters in ages. It was like a mash-up of The Toxic Avenger and Yojimbo. Very insane, fun and I think - out of all the films - the most well-made.
2. Planet Terror - 8/10 - A lot of fun, but very forgettable for the most part.
3. Machete - 7/10 - Also a lot of fun. My big problem with this is that it was too much of a joke. While Hobo, and to a degree Planet Terror, was played completely straight, Machete was a bit too self-referential and gimmicky.
4. Death Proof - 3/10 - An atrocious, pretentious, very boring and vapid film.
yeah hobo with shot gun kicks Ass !
i've recently met Jason Eisener on a set
he signed my copy of Hobo,(super nice guy by the way)
he was executive producer on movie called Turbo Kid
and if your into Hobo with a shotgun ,look forward to this one its sick..
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Hobo is my favorite of the Neo-Grindhouse films. It's actually a tie between Hobo & Fathers Day (2011). Hobo with a Shotgun reminds me so much of a Troma film. The gore, the characters, the dialogue, the seediness of it all is great.
Also, if you're into gore, check out some of the films from Necrostorm. The De Santi brothers have been making these low-budget Italian gore flicks for about 4 or 5 years now. Adam Chaplin (2011) is my favorite, then Hotel Inferno (2013) and Taeter City (2012) are good, too. Judy (2014) is pretty good, though a bit different from the other films I listed. They were going for suspense rather than just horror or horror/comedy. Infidus (2015) is the only one I haven't seen, but I've heard good things about it.
Ok, I'm done babbling about movies that don't really have anything to do with the topic!
"The only thing I'm gonna let slide is my *beep* in your *beep*!" - Slick
1. Hobo With A Shotgun: Fun every step of the way.
2. Machete: Also a great movie, it might be number 1 if I had seen Hobo 2 months ago and Machete just now, and not the other way around.
3. Death Proof: Good except for all that freaking TALKING! Kurt Russell as Stuntman Mike was awesome and the chase at the end was cool.
4. Planet Terror: I've never been so bored by a zombie movie in all my life.
1. Hobo With A Shotgun: at least it can call itself a grindhouse film with a straight face: small budget, oodles of gore, but still a simple story with all the genre templates accounted for. A lot of sick, twisted fun.
The others, for me, are frauds, and disappointing ones too.
2. Death Proof: Tarantino had some fun with it, and Stuntman Mike was cool, but man that pretentious, exhaustingly boring dialogue... Making an homage to bad films by making a mediocre one wasn't the wisest move in the world.
3. Machete: apart from Trejo and the now infamous tarzan/intestine combo, this was such a massive let-down. The celebrity cameos are all criminally underused, and the plot is a mess.
4. Planet Terror: an unintelligible mess.
planet terror A-
machete B+
hobo with a shotgun B
Death Proof C (Tarantino is still one of my favorite working directors, but on this one, the dialogue went on and on,and like people know he's known for great dialogue.)
Hobo = Good. I enjoyed it for the most part. Rutger Hauer continues to be the godddamn man whos performance actually adds a little soul to this 'messy' film.
Death Proof = mostly good. The car chase is more thrilling than any goddamn thing in Planet Terror, and is probably the best piece of pure action out of any of these movies. The end of the first half rocked as well, giving you the release that you most likely came for. Also, the dialogue is not terrible, and a lot of those old grindhouse films Tarantino likes are very low on action. Say whatever you want but he made a Grindhouse movie. The 2nd half was pretty good all-around.
Planet Terror = I don't know if I was in the wrong mood or what but this did very little for me. Terrible CGI as well. Boring.
I haven't seen Machete, don't really have any interest
The Tarantino ones were not as good (IMO) as the post-Tarantino films:
Hobo With a Shotgun - 9.5/10
Machete - 9/10
Planet Terror - 7/10
Death Proof - 5/10 (Loved the chase at the end, but all of the talking before it almost made me shut the movie off. Its a freakin' grindhouse movie!)
Hobo With a Shotgun (4.5*)
Machete (4*)
Planet Terror (4*)
Death Proof (3.5*)
¡Viva Machete!
I like HWAS the most because it did the grindhouse thing effortlessly. No BS film grains, no fake missing reels, no intermissions and such.
The others are good, but I think this in the best of the bunch. If I didn't know any better I would think this film was actually made in the 70's.