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Hollywood has problems... Biiig problems.

posted 11 years ago by The_Show_Stoppa
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I'm sorry but when a mindless, forgettable, and generic action film like Red 2 gets a big push, opens to over $18 million and gets better "critic" reviews. While Only God Forgives an inventive, creative, daring, and ultimately good movie and piece of cinematic art goes right over people's heads, gets absolutely *beep* on by feeble critics and released to VOD it's really scary to think how unintelligent people are in this instant no attention span day and age.

Now more than ever when it comes to movies people don't want to be provoked, they don't want a complex plot or characters that requires you to look further than just the images on the screen. They just want the same thing they've already scene with the same recycled actors... Damn shame, no wonder everyone (now possible including Refn)is going to television.

If you're a fan of this movie/Refn go read/watch some interviews with him regarding OGF and Hollywood min general... You'll respect and like him that much more.

P.S. I can't even remember the last movie that has had me on the message boards like this.

[–] Airman87 11 years ago

Even if you're not a fan of OGF, you probably still realize Hollywood has problems. Look at Growns Up 2 and Identity Thief in the box office this year. It's disgusting.

Just look at our next generation of youth's intelligence level: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8--9R0I2Q

[–] Sergeant343 11 years ago

I think it speaks to the poller too who is using an Equivocation Fallacy by making a born life equal an unborn born. Besides videos like that can be edited a certain way to make it appear like it is most, when it is only a select few and is by no means a judgment of an entire generation. Only those with a confirmation bias see it that way.

HI F-ING YA
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[–] BrunoAntony 11 years ago

Movies (ie the tradition cinema going experience) are dying. Soon it won't matter, it'll all be online.

Due to the lack of moderators, trolls can ruin the IMDB message boards. Don't feed them.

[–] Sergeant343 11 years ago

People said the same thing about Tv and home video.

HI F-ING YA
Nicholas Cage Deadfall
2013 Rankings imdb.com/list/2-zx4cThbEY/

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[–] rabbitmoon 11 years ago

I thought the same thing about Upstream Color - except that was a great movie.

[–] spoonholio-837-96151 11 years ago

I LOVED this movie.
It was beautiful, unique and actually challenged the audience to interpret a scene and channel the internal thoughts of the characters. I'm a writer and a director, so I found this film to be a candy store of creativity and wonderment. Best film of the year.

That is all.
Peace, love and happiness.

[–] slakespeare 11 years ago

I'm only eight minutes into Only God Forgives, so I haven't seen the whole movie, but I have a feeling I'm going to completely and utterly agree with you, Show Stoppa. It's hard to determine how much of the problem is Hollywood and how much of it is the populous, so I'm just going to say it's both. Over the past ten years, movies have become absolutely horrible. At first I thought it was just me, aging, but upon careful review -- it's not. Films are, in fact, going down the drain. You can judge just by sheer volume and average ratings of films released now, versus ten years ago.

I find solace in the fact that time and statistics will eventually deliver a "really good" or possibly even "great" film once again. I RANDOMLY stumbled across this film and it's already better, more gritty, et cetera, than most typical, pathetic Hollywood films (Red II, Spiderman II, Superman II, Toy Story II, whatever the *beep*). Sad, really.

[–] alex-b-katzmann 11 years ago

We now live in a society of pussies. Men wear pink and shave their bodies and it's constituted as normal behavior. Movies that are now gritty, violent, sexual or anything out of the ordinary is now being frowned upon and all the biggest blockbuster movies get the best grades from users and critics.

I'm pretty sure if a movie like 2001 a space odyssey, were to come out, it would simply be relegated to the back alley.

[–] Eumenides_0 11 years ago

Now more than ever when it comes to movies people don't want to be provoked, they don't want a complex plot or characters that requires you to look further than just the images on the screen.

Be honest (to yourself, anyway): what is so important about the things we have to look further than just the images on the screen? From the few minutes I've spent on this board I've only come across sham theories about religious symbolism and sexual abuse. How does thinking about that make this a better movie or me a happier viewer?

This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel.

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[–] deanpulpas 11 years ago

I hated this film. I like Fassbinder, Herzog, Lynch, Buñuel and Malle. Am I still part of the uneducated, unintelligent audience?

[–] davannacarter 11 years ago

This dude's avatar is of Vincent Gallo, the creator of 2003's "The Brown Bunny". If you like the "Brown Bunny" then you have no business insulting other people's intelligence. It would be like Kenny Rogers berating someone for being an alcoholic.