Boys, Why the hate?


After a long, rainy evening of Jeremy Irons and John Malkovich I found myself stumbling upon this film around 4:30am. I watched without reading a synopsis, a review, or barely looking at the poster - putting in a great deal of faith that the good folks at Netflix had chosen well for me. And I have to say, in my opinion, they were right on the money this time.

As a 24 year old woman, soon to be college graduate, yet to become totally financially independent (though let it be noted I DO NOT live with my parents), I found this film to be a raw and honest depiction of the female experience at this age. And I'm beginning to wonder if this is precisely the reason I see so much hate for this film on these message boards.

I think perhaps, though it may be misguided intuition, that the majority of the poor reviews I've read have been written by men. And no offense to Ms. Dunham, who I think gave a strikingly real performance here, but it's just not that relate-able for men - of any age really. This is a girl power film, only cleverly disguised in a shroud of "mumblecore" or whatever the youngsters on the other thread were calling it. And there's nothing here that rang satirical in the slightest here either, to me. If you're within this demographic I strongly challenge you to not find your life in this movie (even down to the hum drum pipe sex). The girls know what I mean...

Ladies?


***How am I not myself?***

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Shoot, I'm a guy and I'll proudly admit that I'm an avid Girls fan. I loved Tiny Furniture and I have a HUGE crush on Grace Dunham (Grace, if you're reading this, shoot me a message next time you're in Seattle!). Anyways...

Tiny Furniture was brilliant for exactly what it was--Lena's attempt to tell the story of a girl coming home from college struggling to wriggle her way back into the flow of things while also trying to figure out who she is and what her purpose in life is. For the people who didn't understand this film... it clearly wasn't made for you. The premise is so ridiculously simple that if you can't figure it out, refer back to my earlier statement and go watch something else.

As a guy, you're correct, I wasn't able to relate to Aura's character very much also because I'm still a sophomore in college but I did find myself wild fascinated with Aura's character. I was so enthralled by her personality and couldn't wait to see how the film was going to play out. And it delivered.

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I think it is more the younger guys (chronologically or emotionally) that are leaving the hate comments. I have seen a few that almost made me cringe because of the pointed misogynistic tone. Clearly these men have issues that they need to deal with.

I don't see Tiny Furniture as a "girl power" film. If Aura had pulled herself out of the rut she was in, and moved in with Frankie, then maybe the word "power" would apply.

This film was more of an essay on what it's like to be young, female and power-less. Clearly her self esteem was at a low point. She is overweight and taking a ribbing for it on youtube. The relationship at college didn't turn out the way she thought it might. And to top it off she is just out of university with a degree that isn't going to be very useful in the near future.

The pipe sex was brilliant, especially the way it was placed right after the scene where Aura further distances herself from the only real friend she has just so she can hook up with an unavailable man. When he pushes her head down and you hear him saying "suck it" followed by 20 seconds of intercourse, I couldn't help thinking how true to real life this really is. I wanted to yell to Aura "you deserve better", but of course that is something she must demand for herself.

The ending when she reconnects with mom was sweet and, I think, appropriate.

BTW, I'm a man.

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I'm a guy and relate to this movie, and GIRLS.

*Nyan Cat, LGBT Rainbow of Infinity!

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I gave it the benefit of the doubt, simply because it was released by The Criterion Collection, and they had never steered me wrong, in hundreds of films that I had watched from that. Being a supporter of films made both by new filmmakers and women filmmakers, I was especially excited. I want to be succinct, because already 99 minutes of my life were wasted by this monstrosity, and I don't want to waste any more of it on this deranged filth; also I was raised to have grace and mercy on everything that I do. There were hundreds of glaringly awful aspects to the film, and it boasted complete artistic insincerity and indulgence. It is clearly, and by far, the worst film in the Criterion Collection, and should never have made it there in the first place. There are many, far more talented actors, writers and filmmakers out there that deserve the prestigious honour. I only post in the sincere statement that if anyone appreciates art or cinema in the slightest, avoid this pathetic waste of valuable resources at all costs. Sincerely, William

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I'm male and I liked it.

I think films like this one always get a lot of flak as well as a lot of praise, and I'm not sure if it has that much to do with the male/female divide.

Some people find them pointless.

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I just saw the movie, and honestly, in an entertainment way, i think it was boring. But i think the movie does something cool. It depicts a lot of doubts and fears of post graduated people, and young people in a general way. Not just women, cause i think a guy certainly could have the doubts about how to be independent or what to do with his life. That's very hard to not relly on your parents. I'm guy who's still figuring out. As many people are too! And i'm not even graduated.

So, i think an american could probably say if it's well depicted or not, about the references and the way the lifestyle is portrayed. I didn't enjoy watching this, at least, most of it, but i think it's honest and talk about real life issues. I just don't think the way Lena choose to do it was the smarstest way. But you know what? I really like "Girls".

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