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The cat was Satan and the dog was God. Anybody?


If you were to really analyze this movie...and put a religious spin on it you could say the cat was the Devil and God was the Dog..and when he went over board with the killing (crossing the invisible line between good and evil) the dog left him (ran out of the apartment) whilst the cat stayed in there.
just a thought.

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No, they were the voices inside the head of an incredibly sick man. Everyone has a conscience though, the dog was his twisted one.

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Pretty sure the dog was the voice of reason

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What do you think conscience is? The dog was his Jimminy Cricket

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i agree. great performances by Ryan. The film was tonally hard to handle. messed me up a bit. lasting impact.

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Yeah I took them as his version of the cartoon trope of angel on one shoulder and devil on the other.

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I can agree with that interpretation. The final shot of the animals in an all white surrounding could be seen as a conversation between God and the Devil.....except for the part where they for some reason agree that they like each other and part as friends 😕

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You mean, exactly like God and the Devil?

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I'm not overly religious, I didn't realize God and the Devil were friends.

Interesting.

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In original texts the Devil is a servant of God. As is everything. All good and all evil is part His plan.

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And the devil decided he hated God and wanted to rule heaven but knowing that he could never do so, he decided he wanted to rule hell. Geez, don't you watch Star Trek? Everyone else does.



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Since it was God who made him that way, how he thinks and his ambitions, I'm not understanding the point you're trying to make. No Angel or Demon of any kind has free will. Kinda the point. Everything in existence is a servant to God because he "is" existence, made everything from himself.

And no, I don't watch Star Trek.

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Actually, in the original Torah text, YHWH is clearly not omnipotent and the defining characteristic of every major biblical protagonist is getting in an argument with YHWH and winning.

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That presumes the devil is evil to begin with.

The fact is (or as factual as mythology can be), the devil WORKS for god, as you say he's a servant of god. God says "punish these dudes for me", and the devil says "sure thing pops". Man wrote the bible, and in it tried to lay the blame for his evil on the devil, with all the "temptation to sin" stuff, but even if the devil does try to tempt humans to sin, he does it on god's orders, to test people's faith and obedience, much like the testing of Job.

You don't go to hell to become an evil sinner, you go to hell because you already are one. If the devil was trying to populate hell with souls, he wouldn't be trying to scare them away with threats of fire and brimstone and everlasting punishment, he'd be throwing an eternal kegger with all the beer, babes, and bongs you could ever want.

If anything, those dudes who wrote the bible should have blamed god for the evil in man. He supposedly gave us free will, but he sure as hell made most of us weak-willed.

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Lucifer was an angel in the bible that believed in free will.

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I could easily see how this could be perceived. One line I paid a lot of attention to was the fact that after he asked the therapist about his mom, she informed him that she spoke to angels and that it was her coping mechanism. His coping mechanism was the dichotomy of his pets.

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If the dog was that loyal he would have stayed in the apartment when they jacked it open.

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All dogs are loyal to their owners, but instinct will kick in (unless they are a service dog)

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That, and the guy was hallucinating, not meditating or praying. Kinda like Muhammad, in the desert, 1,400 years ago...


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Does everything have to be about gods and monsters, angels and demons, and other invisible scapegoats? C'mon. This was about the conscience. We are all culpable when it comes to doing right and wrong...no one else is to blame! This guy was a schizophrenic with a twisted psyche that gave him a lot of trouble deciphering the two paths. The animals were used as mouthpieces for him because dogs are loyal and cats are seen as rebellious, "I will do what I please" sort of animals.. The Scottish accent was a big plus with his ginger fur...


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Does everything have to be about gods and monsters, angels and demons, and other invisible scapegoats?


I take it you're a near-stranger to classic mythology.



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If the dog was that loyal he would have stayed in the apartment when they jacked it open.


If you watch again, the flat was covered in dog feces which means everytime someone rang the bell, the dog ran towards the door hoping for someone to let him out and Ryan's character NEVER did..so the first chance the dog got, it ran...dogs are loyal but one would assume that even the most loyal dog thinks of itself first..

Cats don't mind pooping inside a building and since it got its food there, it never needed to leave..


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If you watch again you'll perhaps note that the apartment wasn't covered. There's a few turds that he didn't clean up due to the glitches in his brain and his lack of perceiving them but he did take the dog out for walks which was established very early on.

The dog rushing to the door could also be to greet the person because when the second girl came in leaving the door open behind her the dog stayed with her until she put him behind the screen.

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this ^^^^^^^

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No. God is God.

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First and foremost we know that the Cat and Dog are merely voices in Jerry's head but his mother talked to angels and this may have rubbed off on his voices but instead of angels he is talking to his cat and dog which have personality's much like that of say God and the Devil.
They are not technically God and the Devil but they are certainly playing roles just like them which are assigned to them by Jerry himself unknowingly of course.

Also with the dog leaving the apartment, if you have ever had a dog then you know open doors are a no-no because they will take off.
Cats on the on the other hand stay close to the food and if they do wander off will soon be back for dinner.

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Yeah, kind of, I think it's just a spin on the whole visual cliche of "angel on right shoulder telling character to do good/devil on left shoulder telling character to do bad". I literally just watched it, thought it was great, and whilst I enjoyed Persepolis (the comic, I mean; although I did enjoy the film a lot, too) I think Satrapi has found her "true calling" in directing. I hope we see another live=action (sorry hyphen key doesn't work) film from her soon!

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angel on right shoulder telling character to do good/devil on left shoulder telling character to do bad


Thank you!

I can't believe how far I had to read before someone got the right answer.

Two points!

If I had my blue pencil, I'd give you an "A".




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