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rape scene... gone too far?


I know that you have to go far in scenes to create an impact. I love shocking scenes & shocking movies, but...

I was just wandering if the scene went too far by showing a 13 y/o girl (or 15y/o girl in real life) in her underwear in a sexual situation?

There could have been other ways the scene was shot, without making her appear like that on-screen.

First, I have to think what kind of parents would let their daughter appear like that.

Then, I believe that this scene will be a delight to pedophiles.

Finally, I know that another way to create impact is that the pedophile isn't apprehended at the end, but that just sends a WRONG WRONG message to pedophiles watching this movie... he didn't get caught and many other pedophile crimes that the FBI was on didn't get solved....

I liked the movie and find it a little shocking, just thing it goes 'too easy' on pedophiles!

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rape scene... gone too far?


not far enough.

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It's the question of whether the media should portray things as they are or as they should be. There are arguments for both sides.

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yes it may appeal to sick pigs who enjoy kiddy porn, but what about the impact..honestly this movie should be shown in class. It is so powerful and has a good shock value for vulnerable teens. There is so many young kids who have access to social networking and chat rooms. I think there needs to be an age limit on who can sign up for those sites. It's just ridiculous how easy it makes things for the perverts and sickos out there!

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I agree that this is the perfect movie to show in class (both middle and high school classes). But I don't see the real point in putting age limits on websites. Yes it may be a deterrent for a small few (which still makes a difference) but for the majority they will lie about their age. Providing more education on this subject matter and encouraging open discussion at both school and home will be a better way to fight this.

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I agree. Education is to key to success. It wont save everybody but it will help all.

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I thought the rape scene was handled very well. I personally did not want to see graphically Charlie have sex with the 14 year old. I understood from the FBI visit that since there were 4 hits for the same crime on Charlie that it was only a matter of time. I thought the film right before the credits of Charlie showing him with his wife and son that it was implied that he would be caught. It also showed that pedophiles can look as innocent at Charlie. Good warning!

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OP has some good points here.

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You might as well say the New Testament goes too easy on persecutors.

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The girl is an Actress. I assume that when your parents let you get into that profession hopefully as a young actress she is mature enough to handle the material of the movie.

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I don't see how it would be a delight to pedophiles, as they actually prefer girls that are younger.

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Gone too far? All you saw was a scared young girl in her underwear. During the rape scene they focused mostly on the terror of her face. If a rape scene can be tastefully done , this was one. I see teenagers in malls in more compromising scenes and clothes.

This was a job, they have social service people on the shoots if they are sensitive scenes being shot and involve under aged people.
I think it is crazy that we should worry about the pedophile and how he/she would react to a movie about a very important subject.

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Actually, I thought that the scene was rather benign compared to other rape/abuse scenes I've seen in recent years (just see "The Whistleblower" for a truly frightening example). Film is a form of art, a vehicle used to tell a story, and in this case the story is about an insecure, naive and abused teenager who isn't quite sure what happened to her. The movie isn't meant to be a warning to pedophiles or a commentary on them; it's meant to show the effect of one particular individual's actions on another and her family. I think the scene was actually crucial in displaying how unsure of her body Annie was, and helps to explain why she so vehemently defended Charlie after the assault; he challenged her poor self-image and made her feel special.

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I don't think the movie is intended to "send a message" to pedophiles. If it was, it would be ridiculous.

For one thing, the vast majority of pedophiles are never caught. We know this for a fact. A movie which tries to send the message "if you do this, you'll go to jail!" would be laughable because it would be demonstrably false. It would be a propaganda piece which no intelligent person would take seriously.

In addition to that, pedophilia is a mental state/issue/illness (chose the word you like best). You can't cure it through words or images, and you can't dissuade people from wanting to act on it. You may as well be arguing that the movie "Hannibal" sends the wrong message to serial killers and cannibals - you're completely missing the point that no "message" will ever be enough to stop them from doing what they do. The only way to stop people with those types of mental illnesses from preying on others is through treatment or imprisonment, and treatment is most often ineffective. If you're going to criminalize a particular state of mind, you have to accept that the only practical way to deal with it is by imprisoning people for the rest of their lives. Trying to "send messages" to them is ludicrous.

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