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Sorry, no such thing as a "black sun"


...or any kind of sun that can bleach out all colors of the magnetic spectrum. It's one thing to use color (or black and white) for artistic reasons (creates good symbolism in visual story-telling), but frankly, there literally is no such thing as a star that can give off visible light that the human eye can detect that will bleach out all colors except black and white.

I've seen environments on earth that almost seem devoid of color, such as empty wastelands in central Asia, deserts, arctic areas where the snow has melted, very large, heavily abused mining pits in central and eastern Russia, and volcanic aftermath. But even in those places, there's always a little bit of color, even if it's nothing more than the blue sky above, or someone wearing a brightly colored piece of clothing, or a single, small, green plant poking out of the ground.

It would have made more sense to have Geidi Prime with that setup than using fake fantasy sci-fi to try and make an already unlikeable enemy strongold even nastier to look at.

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I originally thought the Geidi Prime culture was just so bleak, mechanical, and dystopian that they preferred a black-and-white color scheme, and was disappointed and annoyed when I realized it was because of a "black sun". I agree, it's fairly lame, and realistically a black sun would affect more than just that one planet; the entire solar system would be suffering from it, unless the book has an explanation.

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well the "black sun" is a nickname the occult gives to saturn which they worship.

and the fact that it was in the film do not suprise me because illuminati scumbags such as dennis love to insert their occult knowledge into everything

however with being said. i've read a book talking about the fact that in the distant past there was a black sun and it was saturn.

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“Spice” doesn’t exist either….who knew

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i'm beginning to think that none of this is true

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LMAO. . .I knew this topic was gonna be good for some laughs

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All right, I'm gonna make it clear to you. They call it "science fiction," because despite the fictional aspect, most of the better-written sci-fi stories usually keep consistent with real-life science that we know about, and incorporate it into the story. That includes how the natural world, the universe, and physics work. One thing that inspired Herbert's writings on sandworm biology, for example, was how whales live in our oceans and eat krill. While a bit odd to think of it happening in oceans of sand on an alien world, who's to say that it couldn't happen somewhere in our universe? Another thing that he incorporated into his Dune books was the idea of humans doing extensive breeding programs to create better humans, aided by advanced tech and a fictional drug. This has been proven to be successful with domesticated animals for centuries, (minus the weird drug and the advanced tech), why wouldn't it work on humans?

I know that's a difficult concept for you, but it really pisses off more intelligent movie viewers when Hollywood does something stupid in a sci-fi film, like showing someone going out into space without a space suit and not blowing up like a balloon from lack of air-pressure; or hurricanes forming on land, or other, outright scientific errors that are so bad to be cartoon-level retarded and laughable. Please excuse me for complaining about a real-life astrophysics concept that you apparently know nothing about.

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i get it. you hate bald guys.

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I get you. I am a sci-fi painter and I always have the science part in the fiction, it is very important to me.

Here is what I would have done if they wanted that effect- the cities on Geidi Prime would have had special shades around them to block out the colours, as a way of make people depressive and all that psychological stuff.

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All they would have to do is decorate everything in black and white and have everyone wear black. Easy as that.

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You have to understand, Dune, like Star Wars, are just fantasy that was incorrectly labaled science-fiction.

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Fantasy doesn't usually include spaceships and extremely advanced technology the could possibly be invented one day. That's why it's called "science fiction," because it covers scientific stuff that would be impossible to do or find now, but in the future we could possibly do that. Fantasy covers subjects that will never become a reality, ever.

You want science-fantasy, watch "Dr. Who" or "A Wrinkle In Time."

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Fantasy can and does include spaceships and extremely irrational technology (also called magic). Just because it deals with something that could some day be invented does not automatically make it sci-fi. Space does not make something automatically sci-fi.

There is no possible future where we would be stupid to invent a shield technology that self-destruct in a nuclear explosion at the slightest weapon fire, use it widespread and then everyone would follow a honor system to never damage a shield. Thats fucking insane.

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"Dune" was never meant to be a sci-fi fantasy. Otherwise there would have been a lot more magic being performed, and the story would have been a lot more stylized than it was.

Black suns don't exist, and there is no such star that would bleach out all colors from the human eye; end of story.

Now go back to your "Day After Tomorrow," "Star Trek: Pee-Hard," and "Guardians of the Galaxy" bullshit and shut the hell up.

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its also a pathetic retcon because in the first movie they are on geidi prime and its not black and white

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what about a black hole sun?

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They talked about something like that in "Interstellar," where the accretion disk of Gargantua (in addition to rotating) could serve as a substitute "sun" for the planet the humans in the story eventually went to colonize. But it would still give off visible light with the seven colors of the rainbow visible to the unaided human eye.

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"....I've seen environments on earth that almost seem devoid of color, such as empty wastelands in central Asia, deserts, arctic areas where the snow has melted, very large, heavily abused mining pits in central and eastern Russia, and volcanic aftermath.."

So how'd the pilgrimage go?

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LOL!

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A dampening field around the planet. FTFY!

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