Who has sex in a bra? - Bridesmaids (2011) Discussion

[–] Paul_Ke 13 years ago

Most movies and TV shows do that now. Here's a few recent examples, just off the top of my head:

Forgetting Sarah Marshall - Kristen Bell has her bra on during sex.

Knocked Up - Katherine Heigl has her bra on during sex.

The Ugly Truth - Katharine Heigl (again) has her bra on during sex.

Bridget Jones Diary - Renee Zwellweger still has her bra on after sex with Hugh Grant.

The Holiday - Cameron Diaz has her bra on during sex.

Two and A Half Men episode - Chelsea has her bra on after sex with Charlie.

...It's modern American actresses in general. We're living in a different era now where actressess refuse to show their boobs on camera.

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[–] photoqueen20002000 13 years ago

No boobs = Lower rating which means more people and younger people can watch. Not that they should watch, but still. besides, its not uncommon to have sex in a bra if the moment hits.

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[–] HowYaLikeDemApplesWill 13 years ago

Plenty of boobs can be seen in PG13 (and before that, PG) movies...you can't get much lower 'rating' than that, unless you want Princess Jasmine or Snow White to flop their puppies out, or the Little Mermaid to shed her shells?

Plus it kinda defeats your argument, as Bridesmaids showed no boobies yet was still rated "R" for "strong sexuality, and language throughout".

So in essence, there was no good reason not to have any boobs in this movie, other than the fact that they just didn't want to.

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[–] ShizaMinelli 11 years ago

...Except every movie on that list besides The Holiday is rated r, and 2 And A Half Men is s network comedy.

When you're 17 a cow can seem dangerous and forbidden...am I alone here?

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[–] glimmer-2 13 years ago

Yeah, as silly as it looks, it is common for some actresses to take the bra option even if other actresses in the same movie go topless.

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[–] JaysonT 12 years ago

But Bridesmaids is rated R, so showing boobs is fine.

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[–] DavidTL 12 years ago

That's because those actresses didn't' want to get nude.

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[–] edbelfour3 12 years ago

I agree...... the Wiigster didn't want to show us her mosquito bites.

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[–] Stirchley 11 years ago

In Sex and the City, Sarah Jessica Parker was the only one who never went topless in the show. She always kept her bra on during sex.

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[–] Thomasina 13 years ago

From the trivia section here:

In the DVD commentary, it is mentioned that Paul Feig and Kristen Wiig made a deliberate decision for Annie to keep her bra on during her sex scenes with Ted (John Hamm) but to have her take it off during her sex scene with Nathan (Chris O'Dowd) as a way of symbolizing that Annie feels she can open up emotionally (as well as physically) to Nathan in a way that she can't to Ted.

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[–] Jyveturkey 13 years ago

Thats exactly what I thought when I noticed she was braless during that scene. Makes sense.

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[–] flashwok 13 years ago

oh please...what self serving nonsense in that "trivia".

oh, they wanted it to symbolize she could not open up to Ted? BS.

Wiig didn't want to take her top off, plain and simple. I have no problem with that, but let's dispense with the whole emotional angle.

so she could blow the John Hamm character, but could not take her top off with him whenever she hooked up with him? She's okay "cupping his b@lls" but taking the top off was something she was not comfy with? Please.
For a woman, blowing a guy is much more indicative of being able to open up and is much more indicative of trust/intimacy, then taking your bra off...(twice, in two scenes by the way)

Opening up emotionally...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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[–] Simone_1 13 years ago

let's dispense with the whole emotional angle.

Why? Does it make you uncomfortable?

so she could blow the John Hamm character, but could not take her top off with him whenever she hooked up with him? She's okay "cupping his b@lls" but taking the top off was something she was not comfy with? Please.

Proof positive that you didn't understand what you were watching.

Taking her bra off and revealing her smallish boobs would have left her feeling vulnerable. Not making her true feelings known either about the (poor) quality of the sex they were having or her desire for a more companionate relationship - yet another indication that she feared making herself emotionally vulnerable to her sex partner.

Funny thing, too, because in case viewers like you didn't recognize those two signs, the screenwriters threw in a third: Annie's early morning trip to the bathroom to rinse her mouth and reapply her lipstick.

LOL! How did you miss that???

Oh, and in case you've forgotten, cupping a man's balls is more likely to make a man feel vulnerable (physically anyway) and is something any prostitute or woman in search of a one-time sexual encounter can do without exposing herself to any feelings of emotional vulnerability.

For a woman, blowing a guy is much more indicative of being able to open up and is much more indicative of trust/intimacy, then taking your bra off...(twice, in two scenes by the way)

Don't start writing advice columns just yet, my friend.
Twice, yes, just in case you thought the first time was merely incidental. Your fourth indication, btw, and you blew it.

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[–] flashwok 13 years ago

that was quite a desperate attempt to dance off the hook.

and still wrong.

Wiig did not want to take her top off, plain and simple, as is her right.

You desperately trying to make more into it is hysterical, especially considering your sudden appearance and emotional lectures on this board.

To address your points.

- No, the emotional angle does not make me uncomfortable at all. We dispense with it, because that was *NOT*, in fact the reason for the bra on.

- Oh, revealing her "smallish boobs" would have left her vulnerable? Give me a break. I have slept with over 40 women in my 40 years on this earth, from gigantic sized breasts to small ones, and intimate or one night stand, not *ONE* ever left their bra on while wearing nothing else.

- the poor quality of the sex had nothing to do with her bra being on, which, everyone knows, was because of the rating and Wiig's comfort with it. It is a personal choice, same as Heigl in Knocked up. Some women do not want to show their breasts on camera. I support them if that is their choice. Stop trying to pretend that the bra was left on *TWICE* to make some larger emotional statement.

- I didn't miss anything. Her trip to the bathroom was indicative what a shallow, immature woman she was, desperately trying to look hot in the morning as opposed to looking like a normal woman.

-- In case I have forgotten, cupping a man's balls is more likely to make a man feel vulnerable? LOL. You really are a desperate woman. Yeah, maybe if you cup them with an iron spiked glove and are twisting them around.

If a woman can cup a man's balls and blow him, she can take her bra off.
I have never felt vulnerable when a woman has "cupped my balls"...and in case *YOU* have forgotten, he *ASKED* her to...so why would he feel vulnerable when he asked for it?
You are a silly woman.

-I won't start writing advice columns...provided you stop reading your Cosmo "50 reasons he does not like you" type articles, you silly girl.

-There can be as many "indications' as you like, but the fact is, the bra did not come off merely because Wiig did not wish to go topless.

Nice try.

Oh and by the way....why is she topless in the car when she drives by Rhodes to get his attention with Hellen, yet has her hands over her nipples?
Hmmmmmmm...she is comfortable with Rhodes now and trusts him, is trying to get him to arrest her for indecent exposure, yet does not show her nipples...so, no indecent exposure.

Your laughable little intimacy theory has come crashing down.
Just grow up. Wiig did not want to be topless and for some reason, you cannot handle it.

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[–] Simone_1 13 years ago

"Sudden appearance," flashwok? Suppose you explain to me how one makes a gradual appearance on a board or what makes that more acceptable or normal?

Wiig did not want to take her top off, plain and simple, as is her right.

Nowhere did I say that one reason nullifies another. It could well be that the actress didn't want to expose her breasts onscreen. However, the fact remains that we are given ample narrative and visual clues as to why she's wearing a bra in that scene and she is most definitely NOT wearing a bra in her morning-after scene with Rhodes. The clues are there; it's up to the viewer to supply the judgment and maturity required to draw the appropriate conclusions.

You desperately trying to make more into it is hysterical, especially considering your sudden appearance and emotional lectures on this board.

Any neutral reader of this thread will note that the only one getting overwrought on this thread is you. Why is that? Why are you THAT upset?

Oh, revealing her "smallish boobs" would have left her vulnerable? Give me a break.

This is directly alluded to in the outtakes with the overweight British roommate.

I have slept with over 40 women

*insert wry smile here*

not *ONE* ever left their bra on while wearing nothing else.

I know this will come as quite a shock to you, but a rom-com is not meant to portray life as it really appears to us. The rom-com camera is not a posted surveillance camera. I've never seen bridal parties or bathroom scenes or mid-air panics like the ones in this film nor do I ever expect to. However, in a hyperbolic way, at least some of these scenes convey deeper truths about the absurdity of weddings, life, relationships.

the poor quality of the sex had nothing to do with her bra being on

I never said it did. The bra is just another indication of the poor quality of the sex.

Stop trying to pretend that the bra was left on *TWICE* to make some larger emotional statement.

Was she wearing her bra during sex with Rhodes? Yes or no?

Her trip to the bathroom was indicative what a shallow, immature woman she was, desperately trying to look hot in the morning as opposed to looking like a normal woman.

Does her character grow? If so, how? Who is the agent of change?

cupping a man's balls is more likely to make a man feel vulnerable? LOL. You really are a desperate woman. Yeah, maybe if you cup them with an iron spiked glove and are twisting them around.

I dare say most men will own up to a certain feeling of vulnerability while leaving their balls in someone else's hands.

If a woman can cup a man's balls and blow him, she can take her bra off.

You don't understand what's at issue here. She is depressed and suffering from low-self esteem. Cupping a man's balls and blowing him are not acts that induce SELF-consciousness, that is, consciousness of SELF. Appearing without a bra does. It causes her to imagine Ted's gaze on her imagined shortcomings, to worry that Ted will see her as she really is, i.e. inadequate.

he *ASKED* her to...so why would he feel vulnerable when he asked for it?

Because he trusts her not to do him irreparable harm. But lying there naked with your balls in someone else's hands is ipso facto a position of vulnerability.

you silly girl.

Is it my rationality that has you so upset or does it have something to do with this movie?

the bra did not come off merely because Wiig did not wish to go topless.

Now we can agree. See, that wasn't so hard, was it?

Oh and by the way....why is she topless in the car when she drives by Rhodes to get his attention with Hellen, yet has her hands over her nipples?

She's not in his house, she's out in the open and she's not alone.

Case closed.

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[–] flashwok 13 years ago

"Sudden appearance," flashwok? Suppose you explain to me how one makes a gradual appearance on a board or what makes that more acceptable or normal?

Yes, sudden appearance, Simone. there is no need to explain to you a "gradual appearance", since I never mentioned one. You appear to have made up that term.

You appeared "suddenly" posted 4 new threads on this board immediately and went into hyperdrive in "Rhodes worship".

Suppose you explain to us what necessitated this burst of activity, aside from your clear and emotional investment/obsession with this film, the "Rhodes" character in particular.

Nowhere did I say that one reason nullifies another. It could well be that the actress didn't want to expose her breasts onscreen. However, the fact remains that we are given ample narrative and visual clues as to why she's wearing a bra in that scene and she is most definitely NOT wearing a bra in her morning-after scene with Rhodes. The clues are there; it's up to the viewer to supply the judgment and maturity required to draw the appropriate conclusions.

Keep twisting. There are no narrative or visual clues...merely what you are desperately reading into it, to mar the facts.

She is not wearing a bra on the morning after scene, for the obvious reason that it is the morning after scene, not the sex scene. She is still covering her breasts with a blanket so as not to be seen.

Judgment and maturity? You seem to be lacking both.

Any neutral reader of this thread will note that the only one getting overwrought on this thread is you. Why is that? Why are you THAT upset?

LOL...I am not overwrought. I am hysterical with bemusement...You are the one overwrought. Who else could start a thread here called "What makes Rhodes the consummate lover + companion?"
and expect to be taken seriously?

You're a laughable clown. Who else could take such an absurd character in such a silly film, so completely seriously.
"The consummate lover and companion"?
Please, read some more romance novels.

This is directly alluded to in the outtakes with the overweight British roommate.

Please, show me the exact line where her insecurity with her smallish boobs are alluded to with the roommate and that she explains is the reason why she doesn't take off her bra for actual sex, but then takes it off to sleep in the same bed.

I know this will come as quite a shock to you, but a rom-com is not meant to portray life as it really appears to us. The rom-com camera is not a posted surveillance camera. I've never seen bridal parties or bathroom scenes or mid-air panics like the ones in this film nor do I ever expect to. However, in a hyperbolic way, at least some of these scenes convey deeper truths about the absurdity of weddings, life, relationships.

Um, no, that is not what it is meant to do. Romantic comedies are meant to portray an idealized version of romance to women, with a few laughs thrown in, that is usually separate from the reality of relationships and their perils.

As such, it is funny that you are looking through such shallow nonsense, trying to impart some deeper importance to a romantic comedy.

I never said it did. The bra is just another indication of the poor quality of the sex.

You just said it did. You are an idiot.
Wearing a bra does not mean you had bad sex or that it was "poor quality". Have you never had good sex with your lover when you both still had your tops on?

Wearing a bra is not an indication of bad sex.
You still cannot deal with the fact that Wiig had her bra on for the sex scenes with Hamm, because they were filmed to be crazy and absurd, by position, rhythm, speed, etc...and she would have been topless on screen with her boobs bouncing around like crazy and did not want that.

*PERIOD* get over it.

Was she wearing her bra during sex with Rhodes? Yes or no?

We don't know that, do we? We don't see the sex scene. We just see them kissing, fully clothed on the bed then, we cut to the next morning...where she is topless in bed asleep with the covers over her, while he is in the kitchen.

Since she was also topless with Hamm (KIndly see the paragraph at the bottom and accompanying video clip, including said scene, which totally blowsu p your entire fantasy argument) in the outtakes and left her bra on for the sex before, there is no guarantee that she took it off for sex with Rhodes either.

You simply cannot handle the easy fact that this was all about not wanting to be topless on screen and nothing deeper.
Sorry to blow up your fantasy world.

Now what? Your whole supposition is based on a premise we never see.

Does her character grow? If so, how? Who is the agent of change?

LOL...yeah...so much growth. The "agent of change"? LOL it is her finally stopping being an idiot.

I dare say most men will own up to a certain feeling of vulnerability while leaving their balls in someone else's hands.

LOL...so now you know what it feels like to have your balls in someone else's hand? You can dare say it...because you know nothing. Most men don't feel that way at all.
Besides, When you ask someone to cup your balls, clearly, testicular vulnerability does not worry you.
You might feel vulnerable if a hateful vicious dominatrix grabbed them and told you she was going to rip them off.

You don't understand what's at issue here. She is depressed and suffering from low-self esteem. Cupping a man's balls and blowing him are not acts that induce SELF-consciousness, that is, consciousness of SELF. Appearing without a bra does. It causes her to imagine Ted's gaze on her imagined shortcomings, to worry that Ted will see her as she really is, i.e. inadequate.

LOL...I understand perfectly what they *WANT* desperate emotional cripples like you to believe is the issue and your whole theory is blown, based on my paragraph at the bottom. She appears topless with Ted in the outtakes. So your whole line of reasoning is flawed.

So tell me, if she was so self-conscious to leave a top on, why wouldn't she be self-conscious of say, sticking a penis in her mouth? Considering her whole speech at the cafe, she clearly does not like it, now does she? Yet she did it, even though it clearly made her uncomfortable.

and in the outtakes he clearly talks about giving her a facial, and she is topless, so your whole argument is total BS.

All of this goes back to the simple fact that the only reason she kept the bra on was because of her own choice as an actress, not some amazing psychological transformation as you are so desperate to believe.

Because he trusts her not to do him irreparable harm. But lying there naked with your balls in someone else's hands is ipso facto a position of vulnerability.

lying there with your cooch hanging out is vulnerable too, yet she does it.
Virtually everything sexual involves vulnerability.

your desperation is pathetic.

Is it my rationality that has you so upset or does it have something to do with this movie?

To be rational, you have to have facts and the truth at your disposal...the outtakes showing her topless with the Hamm character totally kills your argument.

If you were rational, I'd be happy because at least your assertions would have merit...but you are not and they don't. As evidenced by your arrival and cheerleading of Rhodes as some type of galactic love hero in film history, your views on this topic are absurd, unfounded and totally artificial.

She's not in his house, she's out in the open and she's not alone.

So? She's trying to get arrested for indecent exposure, yet does not expose herself, obviously since she does not want to show her nipples.
She's not out in the open, she's in her car.
She not alone, yet managed to take her shirt and bra off without Hellen seeing before driving by?

Keep going...

Case closed.

LOL...you wish. See below.
YOUR WHOLE ARGUMENT COMES CRASHING DOWN...you want to refer to the outtakes? Fine. Here she is, *TOPLESS* no bra or nothing after sex with the Jon Hamm character in the first scene.

http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/05/25/bridesmaids-outtakes&view=comments

So clearly, it has nothing to do with her comfort or insecurity with her small breasts with the Hamm character since they obviously filmed this scene. Clearly, the fact is that Wiig did not want to be topless and not some beautiful learning to trust scenario like you are definitely painting.

Go away you silly girl. She didn't want to be topless in the film. You are wrong. Deal with it.

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[–] Thomasina 13 years ago

Oh, my god. Look into relaxation exercises, or, I don't know, psychiatry.

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[–] Simone_1 13 years ago

Seriously. Boards like these seem to attract lonely misogynist types.

Thanks for your post, btw. I hadn't considered listening to the DVD commentary, but on second thought, I think it might be fun.

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[–] Thomasina 13 years ago

I didn't listen to it; I just saw that item in the IMDb trivia section.

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[–] Simone_1 13 years ago

Well, thanks for alerting us to it.

I did get around to listening to the comment in question. For those who are interested in what Paul Feig, the director, actually has to say in his DVD commentary, it comes at around the 1:13 plus mark: [Feig addressing Wiig] "what I like about this is that this is the first time you open up to a man, the first time you’re not wearing a bra."

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[–] flashwok 13 years ago

Oh really Simone? These boards attract lonely misogynist types?

That is hysterical, that just because I did not share your hysterical emotional attachment to this strictly run of the mill, mildly above average film, wityh a few funny and clever moments, I am a misogynist?

Laughable.

When I want to watch women, I'll select brilliant women like Cate Blanchett, Kate Winslet, Jennifer Connelly, Julianne Moore and a host of other women not starring in absurd tripe that you are desperately trying to turn into a treatise on womanhood.

It is amusing you have accused me of misogyny, because you cannot handle teh fact that Wiig did not want to take off her top and that there was no emotional/story related reason for it and that some people did not find this to be the life changing experience you seem to have.

Maybe these boards also attract lonely women who need to start 4 threads and jabber on about a run of the mill love interest in a comedy chick flick.
Keep up the great work. Write back when you actually derive deeper insights from far better films.

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[–] brittypolitti 12 years ago

Have you ever stopped to consider that a. this an imdb message board so it's not a big deal and you don't have to get so worked up/take this so seriously, and b. maybe not only did Kristen not want to go full on topless but she thought it would be both amusing and symbolic for the character to actually be in a colored bra during every scene with her fk buddy? There's not simply one explanation for everything. Sometimes there can be a little more to a situation.

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[–] flashwok 13 years ago

I will Thomasina...as soon as you and your pals stop associating this movie with some kind of incredible cinematic emotional experience.

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[–] Simone_1 13 years ago

Go away you silly girl.

Raging again, flashwok? What sort of a "man" is threatened by a woman posting about a rom-com

You appeared "suddenly" posted 4 new threads on this board immediately and went into hyperdrive in "Rhodes worship".

The actor was chosen specifically for his looks and charismatic qualities. Yes or no?

Rom-coms specialize (straightforwardly and/or ironically) in themes related to ideal romantic types and idealized notions about romance and friendship. Yes or no?

Then on both these grounds, the threads are wholly merited, not to mention fun for Rhodes fans, however many or few of those there may be. If they annoy you, don't look at them. Easy solution there, friend.

Suppose you explain to us what necessitated this burst of activity,

Are you kidding? My husband and I recently watched the movie and enjoyed it. He doesn't have an IMDb account; I opened one not long ago.

There are no narrative or visual clues.

1. Annie goes to the bathroom to freshen up in order to gull Ted into believing she has woken up fresh-smelling and tidy.
2. Annie doesn't effectively assert her sexual needs and desires.
3. Annie craves intimacy but fears conveying the honest expression of her needs and vulnerabilities to Ted.
4. Annie opens up emotionally to Rhodes. She exposes her unattractive qualities, risking rejection.
5. The bra comes off in the lovemaking between Annie and Rhodes.
6. Annie starts believing in herself again.

Pathetically, you tried to dodge point #1 with the lame suggestion that all the filmmakers were after was the revelation that Annie was shallow and superficial. Is that the point of this rom-com?! To show that she's shallow? And if that were in fact true, how do you see her evolving emotionally, if at all? Oh, that's right. You answer that further down: "she stops being an idiot."

Brilliant. *sigh* I don't know why I waste my time. But some posts are so thunderingly stupid one wonders if just a little nudge will get the poster to rethink things. Not in your case, alas.

the outtakes showing her topless with the Hamm character totally kills your argument.

Maybe that's one reason they're outtakes. They don't recapitulate the central themes as effectively as do the scenes in which Annie is in a bra. Again, nowhere have I argued against the suggestion that Wiig may have been reluctant to go topless. My argument is that the decision makes excellent narrative sense.

Funny that you credit outtakes but dismiss this salient fact:

In the DVD commentary, it is mentioned that Paul Feig and Kristen Wiig made a deliberate decision for Annie to keep her bra on during her sex scenes with Ted (John Hamm) but to have her take it off during her sex scene with Nathan (Chris O'Dowd) as a way of symbolizing that Annie feels she can open up emotionally (as well as physically) to Nathan in a way that she can't to Ted.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1478338/trivia

lying there with your cooch hanging out is vulnerable too, yet she does it.

Some low-esteem women are less critical of their cooches than their breasts.

desperate emotional cripples like you

It's obvious from your hysterical overreaction that you are emotionally disturbed.

Seek help.

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[–] flashwok 13 years ago

Raging again, flashwok? What sort of a "man" is threatened by a woman posting about a rom-com []

I don't know, what sort of "woman" confuses "rage" with mere dismissal of an immature girl too over-emotionally involved in a rom-com?

The actor was chosen specifically for his looks and charismatic qualities. Yes or no?

LOL. No. He was chosen to play the quiet, unassuming, un-threatening, uncharismatic, "nice guy" role, in opposition to the handsome, rich, obnoxious charismatic, uncaring male played by Hamm.

He does not win Wiig over on his looks and charisma...he wins her over with sense of humor and kindness. That's the whole point of her "evolution", right? Standard evolving woman/rom-com plot... Going from the handsome, dumb, self-absorbed dick, to the nice, supportive, harmless, puppy dog.

aren't you the one who has been talking about her "evolution" as a character? There it is.

Nice going, silly girl.

Rom-coms specialize (straightforwardly and/or ironically) in themes related to ideal romantic types and idealized notions about romance and friendship. Yes or no?

Indeed, they do.

Then on both these grounds, the threads are wholly merited, not to mention fun for Rhodes fans, however many or few of those there may be. If they annoy you, don't look at them. Easy solution there, friend.

Sure, they are "merited", in your opinion...one silly girl, obsessed with one absurd character in an above average rom-comedy chick flick, but I do not see anyone else joining this massive parade of "Rhodes fans"...LOL. Why don't you start a shrine off-site? The thread in the "Romance" section didn't seem to take off, now did it.

In fact, most people look at "Rhodes" as the worst, most incongruous part of the movie.

Just because they annoy me, does not mean I am not allowed to comment on the absurdity. This is a board for *ALL* discussion and view-points based on this film...not just obsessed Rhodes fans.

If people who are not obsessed fans annoy you, don't look at them. Easy solution there, friend.

Are you kidding? My husband and I recently watched the movie and enjoyed it. He doesn't have an IMDb account; I opened one not long ago.

No I am not kidding. Essentially, you and your husband watched a film and you rushed right here to tell everyone about the awesomeness of Rhodes and the deeper psychological meaning of Wiig's chosen non-topless scenes.

Fantastic stuff. Do tell us more about Rhodes....one of the least thrilling cinematic personas in the history of the rom-com.

1. Annie goes to the bathroom to freshen up in order to gull Ted into believing she has woken up fresh-smelling and tidy.

LOL...no, that is not why she does it...since she wakes him up deliberately. She wants him to love her as shallowly as possible, she even tells him she had a nightmare, to further make him feel more manly because now she isn't scared.

She deliberately adopts a pose to make herself look even more beautiful before she clears her throat to wake him.

She is shallow and self-centered.

2. Annie doesn't effectively assert her sexual needs and desires.

Still doesn't change the fact that she only went with the bra, which is the whole point of this stupid thread that you are dancing around, because she did no want to show her breasts.

3. Annie craves intimacy but fears conveying the honest expression of her needs and vulnerabilities to Ted.

Oh please. She plays on her "vulnerability" right out of the gate to get his attention "Oh i had a nightmare I was so scared" and then hugs him to get him to feel like he is protecting her.

It's her whole MO

Besides, she expresses her needs pretty honestly when she tells him to slow down, and says "oooo doesn't that feel good"...
She then expresses her needs when she wants him to come to the wedding, and he clearly does not want to.

She doesn't fear it...she keeps offering it and he keeps ignoring and shooting them down. She is an idiot because she keeps doing it.

4. Annie opens up emotionally to Rhodes. She exposes her unattractive qualities, risking rejection.

Laughable. She doesn't expose anything unattractive with him before they sleep together. She just behaves like a normal, funny person...*HERSELF* since she does not see him as a love/sex interest until the night they go home together and he is clearly the weaker party, in that he is attracted to her first. He is the weak, vulnerable one putting himself on the line.

5. The bra comes off in the lovemaking between Annie and Rhodes.

*SHOW* *ME* *WHERE*

Maybe you need to watch it again, smarty...since you seem to totally ignore that crucial scene.

I'll say it again. They go to Rhodes' house, they fall to the bed kissing, they are fully clothed, his shirt starts coming off, then wham, cut to next morning. She is topless, under the covers, holding the blanket over her breasts as she sleeps and then when he wakes her up.
*SAME* AS THE OUTTAKE from the 1st Hamm-Wiig scene.

Watch it again, genius, tell me if you see her *EVER* take her top off, or them ever having sex. Or them having sex with her top off.

Then tell me how you can guarantee it happened. From all the women I have known throughout my life, everyone of them takes their bra off to sleep. It is a comfort thing...or do you deny that?

You are full of it.

There is no deeper meaning. She has four chances to be topless in this film and each one she does not do. It has nothing to do with intimacy or plot.
It has to do with a woman's choice (which I support) to choose not to go topless on film and nothing more, despite your protestations to the contrary.

6. Annie starts believing in herself again.

Incredible. Who could have seen that coming?

Pathetically, you tried to dodge point #1 with the lame suggestion that all the filmmakers were after was the revelation that Annie was shallow and superficial.

LOL, pathetically, you cannot read. Nowhere have I dodged point 1. I addressed it above as well.
It is a critical fact of her shallow insipidness.
Maybe the film makers did not *WANT* to express that, but that is what it did. She is shallow and immature.

Is that the point of this rom-com?! To show that she's shallow?

It certainly is the point for the first half, up until she finally realizes Rhodes is the adonis you think he is. She is shallow, selfish, immature, needy, irresponsible, nasty, unpleasant and desperate.

She is obnoxious, self-centered and stupid and she is so shallow that she gives the jerk with the Porsche, the nice house and the looks all the benefit of the doubt repeatedly, while treating the nice guy like crud, to twist in the wind while she "grows up".

And if that were in fact true, how do you see her evolving emotionally, if at all? Oh, that's right. You answer that further down: "she stops being an idiot."

Well, sorry, but it's true. She stops being a pathetic idiot and realizes that there is a nice guy right in front of her, and she can stop being a pathetic idiot, desperately humiliating herself for the good-looking jerk who treats her like crap.

In essence, the story of every woman who has dated the hot bad-boy and desperately wondered why he does not become what she wants, who then figures out that there is someone really nice right in front of them the whole time.

Which is the exact point of just about every rom-com ever made.

Brilliant. *sigh* I don't know why I waste my time. But some posts are so thunderingly stupid one wonders if just a little nudge will get the poster to rethink things. Not in your case, alas.

Maybe because you are a self-absorbed, emotionally obsessed fan of this movie and you cannot understand or handle people who have a far different view then you of it.
When discussing thundering stupidity, you might consider your own absurd treatise on what makes Rhodes such an ideal cinematic lover as rule 1 in understanding said concept.

I like the way you ignored a host of other obvious points I wrote as well.

Give it up. This is not The Hours...it's a chick flick that you are obsessed with.

Maybe that's one reason they're outtakes. They don't recapitulate the central themes as effectively as do the scenes in which Annie is in a bra. Again, nowhere have I argued against the suggestion that Wiig may have been reluctant to go topless. My argument is that the decision makes excellent narrative sense.

LOL...yeah, great narrative sense...where is that rolleyes smiley?
I have postulated that it is the only reason.

Besides, you are the one that claimed the outtakes provided substantive fact about her problem with her small breasts apparently during conversation with the British roommate, so, obviously, that scene doesn't recapitulate the "central theme" effectively.
So your point on that account is now moot.

It still makes no sense, from either point. She did not want to take her top off, period, and if that bra on/off point was not important to the narrative, they would have clearly showed her with her top off, even from behind with no nipples showing in the sex scene with Rhodes.
But the fact is they did not. Because it was not important or anything they conceived before hand.
She didn't want to go topless period.

Funny that you credit outtakes but dismiss this salient fact: In the DVD commentary, it is mentioned that Paul Feig and Kristen Wiig made a deliberate decision for Annie to keep her bra on during her sex scenes with Ted (John Hamm) but to have her take it off during her sex scene with Nathan (Chris O'Dowd) as a way of symbolizing that Annie feels she can open up emotionally (as well as physically) to Nathan in a way that she can't to Ted.

LOL...yeah, you mentioned that earlier. So here is a fact, princess, since you just joined IMDB. It is not the gospel. You can roam through the IMDB "Quotes" and "Trivia' and other sections and find numerous errors, because they are posted and edited by members.

Just because they put an added little caveat into the DVD commentary does not mean it is true. Sure, the producer, the screenwriter and director want you to think that's what they were going for, then why did they shoot and show completely different things that mean the opposite?

If they wanted to show she could trust him, why show her in bed the next morning covered up, but topless, but not trusting him enough to be uncovered? Or her taking off the bra during foreplay, even if we don't see her nipples? Seems that is the brilliant time to show her evolution, but nope...wait till morning....then don't show it either.

Why also shoot the scene where she is topless with Hamm?

Sorry, still no sale. You can whine all you want, so can the film-makers. She did not want to go topless, plain and simple...everything else is just dancing around the fact to try and make it something deeper, even though it does not connect.

Keep believing that because you want you to believe it, but it simply does not work the way they wanted to film it and the way they ultimately did.

Some low-esteem women are less critical of their cooches than their breasts.

LOL...oh, so are her breasts mangled and horrible, or they are just small? They have her getting railed, basically in every sexual position in history, with him giving her a "facial" in the outtakes but still the bra is on, because according to you she is either upset and insecure about her small breasts or because she does not feel the intimacy. Then, the bra is off, when they are discussing it later! How'd they do that?

Whatever you say.
I am sure your husband hated what this film has probably done to him in terms of dealing with you.

Keep dancing, you are so bad at it, like Elaine from Seinfeld.

It's obvious from your hysterical overreaction that you are emotionally disturbed.

Seek help.

LOL, nothing hysterical at all about me pointing out your unhealthy obsession with non-existent themes in this film, point by point, while you postulate about the importance of Rhodes and his impact in cinematic history...

Ah yes...

Erroll Flynn
Robert Redford
Clark Gable

and Rhodes...from Bridesmaids. Among Hollywood's greatest ever lovers and consummate partners/ ideal men.

It's obvious from your hysterical obsession with Rhodes that your poor husband is in for decades of hellish screeching and obsessing about trivialities in rom-coms as well as you nattering on about every possible interpretation of every possible feeling you have no matter how absurd on either cinema, tofu, or ear wax removal.

Seek a divorce if you love the poor guy. Save his life. He'll thank you for it. Then he probably can find someone who does not make him affect an Irish accent and dress up in a Wisconsin police uniform before sex to deal with the horror that likely awaits him in bed with such a silly girl.

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[–] WileyDairyGnome 12 years ago

I found Nathan charismatic...you sound pretty lonely. Maybe you should go out and date instead of arguing with people on imdb.

-- I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been

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[–] ladyoftheisland 12 years ago

What a bizarre thread!!

Look pretty simple to me, the bedroom . . . antics between Annie and Ted just wouldn't have worked had she not been wearing a bra, it wouldn't have been so purely adolescent, it would have been more soft porn that goofy.

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[–] Fejer 11 years ago

^ this

(Not just lonely, but clueless. )

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[–] vanishingirl 13 years ago

Stopped reading your lengthy rant when it became clear you are not interested in a discussion, but in personal attacks against women who can't possibly know more about women than you do.

We're all ~*~*~LIGHT~*~*~

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[–] KnightofLeo 13 years ago

This thread is hilarious..

honestly I dont know who's funnier..

the guy who's a little too overzealous to rip this movie down, or the chick trying to make this movie look like Citizen Kane....

If there be a god...than hide from him our most evil enterprise!

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[–] flashwok 13 years ago

I am hardly overzealous. I gave the movie a 6...it was enjoyable, had some funny spots, but overall missed the mark.

I have no desire to tear it down, I just find the preposterous acclaim that some give it as something more than a funny-in-spots chick flick to be an issue worth disagreeing with.

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[–] vanishingirl 13 years ago

Nice you found it entertaining. I got so alternatingly irritated and bored I put him on ignore.

We're all ~*~*~LIGHT~*~*~

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[–] Simone_1 13 years ago

This question has now been definitively answered here:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1478338/board/thread/198411998?d=199479778 #199479778

The director has the final word.

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[–] flashwok 13 years ago

lol....yet the director still shot the scene with her topless with John Hamm.

Which means he is full of it, just as Weig is, since the topless scene is in the original shooting script.

Ergo, that is something that they decided to claim later.

nice try Simone...I notice you bumped your "Rhodes as consummate lover and companion" threads...strange that nobody else sees him as some historically amazing character.

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[–] Simone_1 13 years ago

Nope. Comedic outtakes like those are nothing more than improv and experimentation that didn't pass muster. It's what's in the final product that counts. Upon further reflection, Feig and company apparently decided that those scenes didn't serve the characters, narrative and/or central themes as well as the shoot that did stay in. (I've already explained why that would be so, at greater length than I would have thought necessary).

The incongruous presence of a bra in an otherwise porn-like sex scene sets up the character and the problematic quite economically: as we are first introduced to her, Annie is lying to herself and others.

Once again, you lose.

P.S. Not sure why you're grinding your teeth over this, but Rhodes is a noteworthy and demonstrably charming character. The proof can be found not so much in message board traffic for a movie that came out last year, but in the boost that it gave to actor Chris O'Dowd's reputation and career.

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[–] mnc2103 13 years ago

First time ever posting on an IMDB board - to tell you you are right, Simone, and to also tell you that flashwok clearly isn't interested in learning anything about sexual issues for women. I admire your patience in trying to educate this guy, but he is clearly set on putting you down rather than being open to the possibility that stuff may sometimes be going on in the bedroom (or wherever) that he isn't aware of because it happens in the mind of the woman he is with. He's the kind of guy who doesn't think any of the women HE has slept with has faked an orgasm.

I get the clear impression that you (Simone) are one of those people who are confident enough in yourself to be open to the possibility of being wrong - just notice how you reiterate aspects on which you concede that flashwok may have a point, whereas he is constantly hurling insulting notions at you in response to your arguments.

For the record and just to prove that at least ONE women out there doesn't fall within flashwok's curiously confident convictions about how and when ALL women feel confident showing their boobs in bed: despite spending decades of trying to learn to love them, I still have a strained relationship with my breasts. I never liked the way they look and I still don't, even though I realize on an intellectual level that they are fine as they are. Even in long-term, emotionally trusting relationships where I have engaged in sexual acts of a nature that my mother would blush profusely at and my grandmother wouldn't know even existed, I have been known to sometimes prefer to wear a bra.

While I no longer experience the constant obsession with (and denigration of) my physical appearance that I did as a teenager, it does happen from time to time that my superficial notion of the ways in which my boobs are lacking in physical perfection wins the battle with my intellectual insistence on appreciating my body as is. On such a day, I prefer to keep my bra on during sex (I have never faked an orgasm, however).

We all have insecurities, whether of a physical, emotional or intellectual nature. Flashwok's main one seems pretty obvious: he is stuck in the macho notion that knowing everything about women's sexuality is what makes a 'real man'. Pity he doesn't realize that such a conviction really just shows that he's a boy trapped in man's body - and that it's the confidence to accept that you can always learn more that is the hallmark of a truly mature adult, inside and out.

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[–] flashwok 13 years ago

Well MNC 2103, I cannot tell you how refreshing it is to hear from someone who actually *KNOWS* they are right. I mean, you *OBVIOUSLY* speak for all women, right? Just because you have issues with your breasts does not mean all or even most women do.

As for sexual issues, spare me your desperate attempts to paint me as some type of a misogynist, because I did not buy into a poorly written account of a sexual relationship in a rom-com.

My issues with the absurd depiction in this movie has nothing to do with my views on women's insecurities in real life.
Sorry.
Of the dozens of women I have been fortunate enough to date or have a merely physical relationship with, *NONE* of them, even the ones with breasts that perhaps may not have been ideal, or large enough, *EVER* left their bra on...*EVER*

As I have always done, a woman's pleasure is important to me. I ask questions, never rush, never push a woman into anything and never try and do anything other than to make her feel special.
When a woman decides to allow you to sleep with them, it is a privilege and an expression that she likes you enough to do something intimate with you.
That is a very rewarding experience.
As such, I am not the type of man who takes that lightly. I have an obligation to find out what my lover likes and does not like and I go about it dilligently, kindly and with respect.

Just because I do not buy the BS that Simone is slinging about this shallow rom-com and the phony suggestion put forth about the bra/sex to cover for the story inadequacies, does not give you the right to lie about me, since you do not know me at all.

Simone "concedes" I "may have a point"? LOL. Where?
There are operative facts that I have pointed out and they are not up for debate.
Ratings and not wanting to be topless are the reasons behind this particular angle and your friend Simone and now you are bending over backwards to try and make a huge emotional issue out of an oversight that was then conveniently glossed over and "molded" by the director in his self-serving and phony commentary.

As for my "curiously confident" conviction, I never stated they applied to "all women". I stated that in my experiences with dozens of women not once did one not take off her bra for sex.

*YOU* may not like and accept your breasts, but the point of this thread is not *YOU* and your issues. It was a phony character, who now we are supposed to believe had breast issues, which allegedly led to her insecurity and leaving her bra on...

yet strangely, if this was so important, you'd *THINK* this would be mentioned at some juncture as a critical plot point in Annie's learning to trust...supposedly a major moment of realization and triumph over insecurity yet it is never mentioned *ONCE* in the movie. It just appears...suddenly.
She never mentions it to Ted, who as an obnoxious male "player" would certainly say something about it if it was an issue, since he made fun of her dental work and was probably obtuse enough to say "why is she wearing a bra". So why does he say nothing?
Why does she never mention this to Lillian, her best friend? We hear no mention of her breast issues, or them being too small or indicating that any of her issues are physically-related.

They merely left it ambiguous and now try and say it was some big emotional moment with Rhodes...

so if it was so big and so important a triumph over her insecurity, why don't they show her take the bra off with Rhodes? Pretty major event in her maturity yes? they did not even show her do it from the back. They just moved on.
Because they never meant it in the first place.

Because it is a convenient excuse for Wiig not going topless and for Simone, and now you to shout it from the mountain tops even though it had nothing to do with anything and is not evidence of some deeper emotional depth to this rom-com.

You claim that "I have been known to sometimes prefer to wear a bra." Which means that you don't always. Which means that clearly, you are not over it, which means that there is no magical panacea where suddenly the bra comes off and a woman's body issues, in Annie's case allegedly, disappear suddenly.

Go *beep* yourself with your obnoxious and off base insults about my "macho notion". I have never said a word to you and now you pretend to know me and what I believe, just because I do not believe a ridiculous, unworkable scenario in a romantic comedy that does not match up with psychology, plot or the question women in film must endure with regards to taking their top off?

Who are you to insult anybody, but a girl so messed up in her own head she cannot even love her breasts and accept herself?
IF that was what the Annie character had been dealing with and had been portrayed, i'd have no problem with it...but it *ISN'T*...it is a patch/band-aid to get around some script weaknesses and the desire not to be topless on screen, while still needing to portray three sex scenes on camera.

What makes a real man, in bed, is listening and learning about what a woman likes and is into in bed, so screw you, you insecure little girl. I love and adore women...sorry if I do not buy a built in excuse for a scene not working in a romantic-comedy and sorry that you can judge my entire history, knowing nothing about me, except that I disagree with a poorly constructed character in the film.

Maybe you should leave your bra on and work on coming to grips with yourself instead of lecturing me. I have dealt with plenty of women with insecurities and managed to always caringly work with them through issues and there are *PLENTY*. A woman can find has many insecurities with herself as she has thoughts in her head. It is a maddening labyrinth...from obsessing about a bit of cellulite, to not being "able" to wear sleeveless dresses because they are obsessed with their upper arms,
Whatever honest way to deal with it, I deal with it. I worked for a fashion magazine where all day long all i heard was women obsessing about their weight, their boobs, their legs, their butts...it *NEVER* stops. I deal with anything that comes up as honestly and warmly as possible.
Don't tell me what I think of women just because I found a rom-com absurd in a couple of places.
If i want to watch a real movie about real women dealing with real crippling insecurities or heavy emotions, I'll watch Dolores Claiborne, or Monster.
Until then I guess I'll be a boy in a man's body...who is okay with all his little imperfections and has tried his best always to make any woman happy and feel good by being as open and honest as possible and willing to try and do new things...unlike the girl in a woman's body like you, who cannot accept the shape of her mammary glands because she has such a low opinion of herself because of what the fashion or makeup industry has told her about herself.

Get over it and grow up. Keep your nasty little spleen venting to yourself next time you come after someone who has done nothing to you.
Maybe spend more time dealing with your breast issues, then whining about someone's accurate and factual views and points on a poorly constructed, falsely stated semi-narrative in a movie.

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[–] mnc2103 13 years ago

You write that "As for my "curiously confident" conviction, I never stated they applied to "all women". I stated that in my experiences with dozens of women not once did one not take off her bra for sex."

Well, I disagree with your assertion of what you have and have not claimed before. You did write that "If a woman can cup a man's balls and blow him, she can take her bra off". Giving my own example was an attempt to let you know that you are wrong about that. And I did make clear that I was giving ONE example, not speaking for all women - but that one example is enough in itself to shatter your assertion that somehow wanting to wear a bra is incompatible with being willing to get very intimate physically with a man.

As for not having issues with my breasts, I have tried for 20 years to appreciate them for what they are, but so far I have been incapable of being successful 100 percent of the time. Most days I think they are just fine, but from time to time insecurity takes over (which is when I wear a bra). By the way, this has less do with whether I am with a long-term boyfriend or someone I've just met, although it happens much more rarely with the former. You can argue that this makes it a less than perfect analogy to the Wiig's character's situation since that centers on whether she feels comfortable with Hamm, and you'd be right - my point was not to argue that I sometimes wear a bra for the same reasons that Simone has argued might be to blame for Wiig's character wearing one in the scene with Hamm, rather, my point was to argue that, whatever their reason, there are women who wear bras in bed while engaging in sex that involves otherwise very high levels of physical intimacy.

As for actresses and their not wanting to show their breasts in movies: you may be absolutely right that this is the reason Wiig is wearing a bra in the scene with Hamm (which is a point, btw, that Simone conceded you might be right on). I was merely trying to point out that there MAY be other reasons for a woman wearing a bra in bed than her being in the middle of shooting a movie and not wanting to flash her boobs for all moviegoers to see.

By the way, it's rare that we see actresses wearing bras in bed in movies, but we're often not 'allowed' to see their boobs. If allowing Wiig to keep her boobs to herself was the main objective, the director could've just shot the scene with her on top from the back or let the camera stay on her face and shoulders which has been done many times before to avoid showing an actress' boobs in a movie. Never mind the oft-used option of not-so-cleverly placing lamps/bedding/flailing hands in front of the boobs.

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[–] flashwok 13 years ago

Ah Simone...
Your thrilling narrative aside, Simone, sorry...those were hardly "improv and experimentation".

In fact, none of the first sex scene with Hamm(and a great deal of other things) were even in Annie Mumolo's original script.
go ahead and read it.
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Bridesmaids.html

So sorry, once again you lose.
They simply injected this absurd bra issue because Wiig did not want to go topless period but they wanted to put in the crazy sex scene with Hamm.

The original two sex scenes were not even in the original script...along with the fact that they actually go to Vegas.

and by the way...since you have inferred that there are issues with Annie due to the bra in the porn scene, please explain then why you do not see her *EVER* take off her bra for the sex with Rhodes.

You of course have conveniently ignored that we *NEVER* see Annie topless, having sex with Rhodes. Go watch the scene again.
They fall to the bed, making out, clothes start coming off (Rhodes)...cut to next morning. Wigg is in bed, topless, but she is covered up with the blankets when Rhodes sees her.

As such, there is no proof whatsoever she took off the bra during sex.
Do you sleep in your bra? No. She could have taken it off to sleep after the sex.
She also does not show Rhodes her breasts when she is driving around "topless" in public.

She also hooks up with a college kid and gets in a fight with his girlfriend the next morning, when she is found in bed with him, while in Vegas in the original script. She was drunk...same as with Rhodes.

So please spare me Annie's whole opening of the heart and trusting Rhodes.

It is a lame construction so ladies like you will buy the character development that was not there in the film. They knew it would go over better to say that, then to say leave the scene in a Vegas stripclub where a male stripper puts Annie on the stage, than simulates sex with her with his balls hanging out of his G-string, to the point where ball sweat falls from his testicles inter Annie's open laughing mouth. Of course she then contracts body lice.

None of this braless "awakening" was ever intended. They needed an excuse for the sex scenes/topless car shoot not being actually topless and knew women like you would buy the line of reasoning they substituted for it. That was not the intention of Annie in the original script, or the shooting script, since they shot her topless in the first sex scene.

It is also "noteworthy" that you did not mention that Annie was drunk in her scene with Rhodes...so, Ms. Psychology, was she truly becoming more secure? How do you know, since when you are drunk your inhibitions are gone? As I said...we never saw her topless, having sex with Rhodes. So was it the booze, or your desperately longed for opening to the dynamic cinematic lover and ex-patriate, officer Rhodes?

And by the way...in the original script, she never sleeps with Rhodes.

As for Rhodes being a "noteworthy" and "demonstrably charming" character...Sorry the fact that Chris O'Dowd is getting more roles is no proof of anything regarding Rhodes' place in cinematic history as the dynamic lover you seem to think he is. He is not noteworthy. Nobody is singing this character's praises so obsessively as you.
Plenty of people have terrible roles, then still go on to get noticed in Hollywood.
It means he has a good agent....not that he is some major force in the history of romantic leading men.

Once again, you are desperately trying to make more out of this movie than it is.

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[–] yellowgum900 13 years ago

You do know that saying "you lose" doesn't automatically mean you win, right?

And being condescending doesn't make you any smarter.

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[–] fluffchop 10 years ago

You do know that saying "you lose" doesn't automatically mean you win, right?

And being condescending doesn't make you any smarter.

The fact he's right is why she loses. The fact she is wrong is why he wins.

She loses so automatically he wins.

If you want to post smugness and sarcasm it's better to actually make a valid point.

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Scientologists love Narnia, there's plenty of closet space.

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[–] daissi 13 years ago

This thread is funnier than the movie.

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[–] Helenlaurence 10 years ago

Flash wok I think you are getting mixed up with reality and films.
Films (and novels) operate by using symbolism and metaphors at times.
In this film, bridesmaids, as had been pointed out - one of the symbols used is that wiig keeps her top on with the horrible guy (sorry forgot his name), as she doesn't want to 'reveal' herself, both literally and figuratively. She doesn't feel safe she doesn't trust him, she's kidding herself that she could have a real relationship with him.

In real life, as you point out, a woman may or may not take her bra off during sex. That's neither here nor there and has no baring on this film.

As to the whole issue of feeling safe and giving a blow job- people can do all sorts of sexual things and distance themselves easily from the act. They can do them without making themselves feel vulnerable.
The symbolism in the film is that she didn't want to be naked in from of him.

It's possible wiig also didn't want to reveal her breasts, in fact likely as with Rhodes she covered herself with s blanket. So the 2 points actually can both be true!

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[–] x-sevenwaystoscreamyourn 13 years ago

God you sound like a complete douchebag. Shut up.

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[–] michelleflynn2003 11 years ago

Funny thing, too, because in case viewers like you didn't recognize those two signs, the screenwriters threw in a third: Annie's early morning trip to the bathroom to rinse her mouth and reapply her lipstick.

I LOVED it how she even had to mention a few times to him that she just woke up like that HAHA

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[–] Chief_Jay_Strongbow 12 years ago

So the reported reason is BS, but your conclusion is the accurate based on your own subjective assumption. What an amazing detective you are!

"The symbol for pi is 3.41? What self-serving BS. It's just so Joseph Pi would have something to talk about at parties."

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[–] hooboy-1 13 years ago

Prude actresses.

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[–] gracani122 13 years ago

Ummmmm you were supposed to be cringing.

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[–] LizardKing97051 13 years ago

a women who's being filmed doing a sex scene in front of a bunch of strangers but doesn't actually want to show her breasts... that's who has sex with a bra on

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[–] jeff_zalonka 13 years ago

agreed. only reason she had a bra on was because she didnt want to show her breasts.

its like when she woke up and was covering her breasts with the blanket. really? because the guy didnt already see them?

whatever ... its a movie.

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[–] Jimmy68711 13 years ago

What part of the sex scene was SUPPOSED to be REALISTIC?

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[–] Gerithh 13 years ago

I bet tons of women keep their bra on because they probably have a bigger chest that keeps bouncing and it hurts your breasts eventually (well, of course, if you're on top).

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[–] sashavice 13 years ago

Eh, not that unbelievable to me. I sometimes wear a bra during sex.

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