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No men lead anymore, are there?


I saw the trailer for this series, and was sort of intriged, and then it dawned on me: Another female hero, I see. The rebel of the system; A woman.

Yeah, yeah. Woke etc. I just... It feels like almost everything is like that. I guess Daredevil Born Again (we´ll see if not Kate takes up the mantle or somthing), but most shows have a female lead... It feels like.

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Define "most"?

I guess it's what they call "selective perception", because the human brain has the habit of remembering negative things longer than positive ones.
If you play a game that is a combination of luck and skill, i.e. Backgammon, where good players playing against weak ones will win on average 2/3 of games, they remember the 1/3 losses for much longer than the 2/3 wins and end up with the impression they had an extremely unusual streak of bad luck.

Same thing here, when you say "most" that's the impression you have from your selective memory.

Furthermore you have to realize, this is a post apocalypse series and we do know from real life, i.e. from Germany after 1945, that the heros of the time right after they had lost the war have been the women, so what would you expect to see in a scifi series that wants to portrait a halfway realistic setting?

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You may be right.

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Good God, you're not allowed to pine for male leads! You have to shout 'Yay! Womahn!' and punch the air in celebration of said 'Womahn'!

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I've noticed that too in a lot of movies and series.
What bugs me more is the men who go crazy about it and whine and complain.
I can understand complaints about things that are too unrealistic, after all most
stories are unrealistic dramatic.

When you look around the world, and there are a billion Muslims in Asia and
North Africa, and then the male dominated barbaric societies in Africa, and the
way America and Europe were not too long ago - trying to put women in higher
roles in media is a good idea and a way to normalize that.

When you look at women in school, and women in the workplace they do just
as well as men, and the stats show on the whole a bit better.

Media should show the values of morality and society, so it's fair play and a
good idea. Many or most of human societies have been very misogynistic
and seems to me a civilized human being or either gender ought to feel that
equality in a modern society is a good thing, and a value to be upheld.

The broader interpretation is the upholding of the rights of the weak in
society, who can be man as well. Somehow there are forces at work who
want to like the Nazis push this might make rights and master race agenda.
If that is the alternative, I think the vast majority can agree, no thanks.

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"Many or most of human societies have been very misogynistic"

Utter, utter nonsense. All human societies have been gynocentric. It's the polar opposite of misogyny, which barely exists.

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I am anti-wokery but I'm still enjoying this series. You're right that the lead is a woman but I wouldn't call it anti-man. There are good and heroic male characters as well, even if they are secondary.

It's a well-made and interesting show so far.

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I also did some thinking after posting and looked at some list of upcoming shows and it didnt seem so skewed as I imagined. In fact there are mostly male leads that I could see.

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls552899902/

So now I am wondering why I feel / felt like it was like that. I guess Disney Marvel, "force is female" etc. may have given me some glasses ;-)

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Its not a bad show but yes its one of the female power social engineering projects. The story would have fit better with a male lead.

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It's been that way for a few years now, especially in sci-fi, fantasy and horror (though horror has a much richer history of female leads). A female lead is now default in genres that are mostly watched by men and boys. Action movies/shows are going that way too.

There's no way it's due to demand, given how many of these female-centred shows and movies fail. It's strictly a political choice. If you criticise this choice, you get called names by people like brux.

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The series is following the book in this regard , which was written 14 years ago

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