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Why is this irritating cliche used in so many movies


I did like this movie alot, I thought the premise and overall exercution was great.

But right form the begining I hated the 'average guy wants hot girl' theme. It has been done to death. I'm sick being asked to constantly root for nice but essentially shallow guys who are only interested in super attractive girls. Writers may sometimes tack on a hint of personality often by making her a shallow b#!@h, not that thst makes a diiference. The fact that shes good looking is the only thing that really matters

Also we are supposed to feel sorry for these losers coz they lack confidence but seriously they can barely get out a sentence out sometimes. All the stammering and whining and 'hot girl' worship quickly stops being charming and just gets on my nerves. (the breakfast scene in this film is an example, though I know it was also part of the humour)

I wouldn't mind if it went both ways, but when ever movies want to show 'average girl wants hot guy' they use a beautiful women and just give her glasses and a bad hair cut. And usually by the end of the movie shes been claened up and made beautiful again. Or they make attractive guy a jerk and average girl realises it's actually her unattractive friend she wants.

Why are these average looking 'nice guys' rarely paired off with average looking 'nice women'. It feels like such lazy, cliched writing.

BTW I'm talking about just movies, not real life, where relations are obviously more complex.

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I take it you are new to parodies, then?



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Fully agree. And the hot *beep* always has to look beyond appearances too, otherwise she is just a superficial biatch. Not the same for him, though. He can be superficial and relatable.

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I came into the movie about halfway in, so I didn't know what had been said and done before that. But I thought Dale was much older than the college kids and thought this wouldn't feature the usual "guy gets girl" cliché.

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Because this film is just another example of the nerd wish fulfilment movie being trotted out regularly for the past few years.

Downtrodden awkward nerd beats the bullies, gets the girl, sometimes even saves the world. Kick-Ass was a classic example. Girl has no interest in guy. Finds out he's a hero, 30 seconds later they are having sex in a laneway.

Wish fulfilment fantasy.



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I so agree. It's gotten to the point where I can't enjoy a movie with this cliche in it even if the movie is great. It really sucks. It is so much worse because this is a parody that is meant to be turning the genre norms upside down. Why isn't the guy ever learning to look more than skin deep to find a great personality, it's always the hot girl learning this lesson. Some of the comments on your comment just don't get it, don't get it at all. It's not like this is isolated, this is pretty much all there is. Imagine your gender not being given these sorts of stories, just always the prize, never relatable or human. Gets me down man.

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