Indy was suicidal at the end
way more than in the first movie when he thought Marion was dead.
and then annoying girl saves him by knocking him down.
how can anyone defend this movie?
way more than in the first movie when he thought Marion was dead.
and then annoying girl saves him by knocking him down.
how can anyone defend this movie?
One of many reasons it's not going to place in the Top 10 Box Office for 2023.
shareHe wanted to stay and experience history firsthand with the time he had left.
There's a little more to it than you are saying.
Notice how this thread just popped up as an answer to a question nobody asked about Indy getting drunk, not caring about the mission to find the ark and best the nazis. He would rather just die in that moment and take Belloq with him.
These bozos are just so desperate to be scandalise about thus movie but they know their complaints are just spurious counter-factual nonsense and blatant double standards. They decided long ago that these movies (certain IP) are now being made in the wrong way by the wrong people for the wrong people in thus imaginary culture war that, according to them, they’ve been losing for the past eight years. Except for stuff like Maverick and the sixth MI sequel. Normal movies for normal people.
I think part of it was escaping the drudgery of life by going to a faraway place.
shareI hate to admit it, but that insufferable woman was correct, Indy would've ALTERED history, maybe with influencing Archimedes with little chats or something.
Yeah and potentially destroy history in doing so, something that a life-long archeologist should think of immediately.
It was disgustingly out of character, in-fact the entire sequence was MORONIC. Them not flying out of range of boat based crossbows was the worst thing since the end of Prometheus.
You are letting nostalgia of the first couple films blind you. Indy was NOT suicidal. He was grieving yes. Which. Is why he wanted to stay in the past. It's what he felt closest to. You don't have to like the film but stop making shit up..
shareindy youve been shot youre bleeding you cant stay here
yes i can
and for what? for a long painful death
He said he would be ok. He was in no way suicidal. Also he was feverish and delirious. Again not suicidal. There was no reason for him to be suicidal.
shareno reason other than the fact that he was already dying?
shareIf that wound was so bad, there is no way he would have made it back to New York like he did.
sharenew york has hospitals doctors surgery and medicine
ancient greece does not
If the wound had been so deadly, he had been already dead after the parachute latest. He was until then so pumped up, that he could maybe survive, but at the same time the inner wound had killed him, falling catatonic and die. Also he woke up in his own house, there would be no way, that he would be staying outside of a hospital, if the wound would be so bad. So very likely, he could also survive in ancient time. Except of course, his wound had been infected, because Antibiotica only existed in the world of '69.
shareIn Raiders, he sat down and drank a bunch of liquor and was depressed. He wasn't suicidal at all. In this film he is 70, lived a full life of adventure, most of his friends and family are dead, his wife is divorcing him, and he is dying from being shot about an hour ago. Context isn't the same at all.
shareHe was ready to do a murder-suicide with Belloq.
shareNo he wasn't. He wanted to murder Belloq, but didn't want to die or he would have drawn his gun. He didn't know everyone around him had weapons. He doesn't even get his gun out of the holster. He certainly is in an emotional and despondent state though.
shareIndy knew full well he'd be shot as soon as he drew on Belloq. Remember what he says?
"You want to talk to God? Let's go see him together. I've got nothing better to do."
He never draws his gun and all the other guys don't even draw until he reaches for his. He says that, but doesn't know everyone around him is armed. If he wanted to die, he would have drawn his gun. It's simple and it's a much different scenario than what is presented is Dial of Destiny.
shareHe is about to draw his gun when the kids come in and save him. If they hadn't intervened, Indy absolutely would have gone through with it. And while he may not know everyone around him is armed, he knows Belloq came heavy. There are white guys accompanying him, who are obviously armed. Hell, why do you think Indy says "let's go see [God] together"? He is absolutely ready to die, much more so than in Dial. In Dial he is wounded and tired, but feels he has found a place to spend his remaining time - a purpose of sorts. In Raiders, in that cafe, he has lost all purpose.
shareI just disagree. He reaches for his gun, but then everyone else draws around him and he stops because he wants to live or achieve his goal of killing Belloq. Then a few seconds later the kids come in and save him. He didn't want to die, he just wanted to kill Belloq. I understand he says that out of revenge, but I never got the feeling he was suicidal. In Dial he just wanted to be left there and not go back to the present, it's possible he would have survived too.
shareHe stops because the kids rush in to stop him, reminding him there are more things to care about than just brooding over his losses. What purpose do you suppose the kids had, from a storytelling perspective? Why tell Belloq, "let's go see him together"? Why would he say that? Not just realistically, but from a storytelling perspective?
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