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Sam Spade ... living in France?


Sounds like they are just hijacking the name of a famous movie detective just to make it sound relevant. Sam Spade would not move to France. Can they really not come up with better ideas for movies?

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I often disagree with you, but we are in 100% agreements on this. My question is does today's movie demographic even know who Sam Spade is?

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The name has a resonance to it, because even subliminally people have heard it, even in jokes or cartoons. If Daryl Dixon can go to France, I guess Sam Spade can try it. ;-)

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True, but to them it's just a name with little to no reference point.

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It's called familiarity. People hear a name they've heard before and attach significance to it even though they know nothing about it.

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He went there when Kennedy was elected instead of Nixon. Reps are more consequent than libtards... 😂

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Trump's turds floating in your brain pan.

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Hey, cool, finally even you made it to my ignore list. Life is so relaxing without this myriad of assholes surrounding us...

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Even if he hadn't gone to France, he still would've left San Francisco when the hippies infested it.

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AMC must have a special deal with France for filming there. Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon was filmed in France with French actors and subtitles, too.

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'Sounds like they are just hijacking the name of a famous movie detective just to make it sound relevant.'

Same as they did with that recent Perry Mason series. I quite enjoyed it, but there's no way in hell as far as I'm concerned that that was THE Perry Mason.

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The 1957 to 1966 show starring Raymond Burr, Barbara Hale, William Hopper and William Talman was a so much better show, even for being 67 years old. Why bother calling it the same character?

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Absolutely. I love that Raymond Burr show.

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Me too.

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Well, now I have to admit, this might not be terrible.
The first episode is free on AMC, so I thought I'd take a quick look.
Clive Owen talks funny, but it was sort of interesting.
Well filmed and directed at least shows some effort went into this.
Lots of cool old cars and bucolic visions of the French countryside.
I might end up watching the whole thing eventually.
Just wait until it shows up as part of Amazon Prime.

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Honestly thought it was boring.

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It's not over yet. Did you quit watching? Don't blame you, but something makes me curious about the ending.

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No, it’s a fantastic show. Set in 1963 in Bozouls, France which is in the southern part. It’s right after de Gaulle assassination attempt and the ending of Algerian war. And it’s perfect because he meets someone there. Kind of Nick and Nora and 8 years pass. there’s a whole mystery with Bridget O’Shaughnessy‘s child; that’s why he’s in France to deliver the child. Excellent writing. True to Hammett. Owen is a good Sam Spade. People forget Bogart is no longer here.

Just saw that you saw an episode so I didn’t mean to go through the whole thing.

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I am curious about the show and know pretty much nothing about the history your mentioned other than DeGaulle existed and Algeria was one of France's brutal colonial experiences.

It's growing on me, but also not exactly written well for people to understand, and however many episodes in does it talk about the kid, and who really cares? And why should I?

It's hard to distinguish between some of the main characters as well. Beautiful scenery, nice old cars and antiques. I will continue to watch.

There is also not much about his meeting someone and getting married.

If it is not AI special effects, Clive Owen looks to be in excellent shape. I think it's a body double.

I appreciate your comments so don't hold back if you can explain more.

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Here’s the timeline: Spade and the daughter arrive in France in 1955. The town has a history, like most places in France, of having been occupied by the Germans during the war. A lot of everything has to do with the French Resistance and those who conspired with the Nazis. We find out Gabrielle’s husband did. The movie fast-forwards 8 years - 1963. You see Spade visit the cemetery and you see the grave marker Gabrielle Spade dod 1961. So without saying anything, you know they got married and she died and he’s been there two years after her death. Then, in flashbacks, you get to know Gabrielle.

I actually agree with another poster here and you, it is a bit slow in some parts and I think just seeing one episode a week - it’s not the kind of series where you remember everyone. I often said to myself - who’s Marguerite or Gabrielle? Who is Philippe and Jean-Pierre? And then to complicate things - you find out who the French resistant fighters are and then comes those who participated in the Algerian War and those who hated de Gaulle. The pied noirs, those who were French but lived in Algeria, wanted Algeria to remain French. And that’s the reason for the OAS - the far right group who stood for this. And, then comes the story with hiding the kid and don’t forget, the weird couple, and the daughter and the nun massacre. I am going to wait until the last episode drops and watch the whole thing because it’s losing its cohesion for me being doled out bit by bit. But it is a really good production and fun to look it. The dialogue is fantastic.

Since the plot is a bit convoluted, it is more like Raymond Chandler’s The Big Sleep than Spade in The Maltese Falcon, which was easy to get. If they get the okay for a S2, I bet it will go back to San Francisco.

There’s no CGI with Clive. That’s him with a tan.

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> who’s Marguerite or Gabrielle? Who is Philippe and Jean-Pierre?

Exactly ... the scenes are often dark or blurry and there is nothing to distinguish the characters, and not enough reinforcement.

If you really want to see a series that has this problem in "spades" so to speak, it's the Chinese TV 30-episode series with inadequate subtitles "Three Body". It is awesome, really great, but it is slow, tedious in many places, but one of the best real Science Fiction series out there.

> There’s no CGI with Clive. That’s him with a tan.

How old is that guy? I have difficulty believing that, but if so - kudos to him for staying in such great shape.

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