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Billy Bob's lecture to Gen Z about the windmills

posted 3 months ago by Oblivioid (1551)
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I liked it, there's items in there he points out that I've always tried to remind people about plastics. Plastic is Oil.

I hadn't considered some of the things he brought up about the production of the windmills themselves, like the 20 tons of concrete for the base and all the fossil fuel it takes to produce just that part. One thing he doesn't mention is that the blades are made of fiberglass and are not recyclable in any way, and they take up massive amounts of landfill space when disposed. The production of fiberglass is a very toxic process as well, lots of chemicals and vapors released into the atmosphere.

I don't know if his claim about the windmills never reimbursing their production costs in clean energy is true. I mean, it's certainly believable when you factor in all the toxicity needed to produce one.

I think his bold claim about Oil as a limited resource is spot on, in that there's not actually enough oil on the planet to ruin the climate. He doesn't say it in a blunt way like that, but it is certainly inferred.

I got the feeling that the Gen Z little bitch lawyer was not listening to anything he was saying, certainly not believing any of it. That part was the most believable of all! LOL.

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[–] blue1981 (8175) 3 months ago

This needs to be repeated and shared. It kind of reminds me at the beginning of Armageddon when Bruce Willis is driving golf balls at the protestors who are on the boat using so much diesel. 😂
https://youtu.be/fmbZwxEnAFc?si=mnDRY18IqGOIip88

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[–] TandyMan (11338) 3 months ago

It's absolutely true that windmills have never been profitable. It's a swell idea that doesn't work.

Oil is a limited resource and it isn't. The Earth makes oil every day. It's not made out of dinosaurs and ancient rain forests. The "fossil fuel" nonsense was a marketing blitz. We're never going to run out of it.

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[–] moviechatterer (16300) 2 months ago

Thats bullshit , the entirety of all the oil in the world that we will ever have has taken millions of years to form and we have burned through over half of it in TWO HUNDRED years .

That oil is basically a battery pack containing the energy ancient sunlight and our current civilisation is geared to using a level of energy consumption that only that stored energy can provide.
There is no way of replacing it. No easy way anyway.

and you people just laugh at any attempt to do so - see the OP

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[–] HarlemEagle42 (18415) 2 months ago

Sheridan has caught flack for this scene.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-taylor-sheridan-landman-hit-writing-misleads-1995622

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[–] moviechatterer (16300) 2 months ago

A scene in a later episode has also been a hit with conservatives, going viral on social media.

Its baffling to me why the issue of the sustainability and energy security of the planet's future is a left/right issue

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[–] moviechatterer (16300) 2 months ago

I'm not buying all that , but I would like to see some figures on lifespan and disposal of windmills
Just because these things use oil in construction is in no way a justification for just burning the oil for energy.
Its not about climate change (entirely) its about getting the most out of the energy/oil,
and thats because Oil IS a limited resource ,its not a "bold claim" is a 100% stone cold hard fact.
Maybe Billy Bob's right that there isnt enough to affect the climate ,
but we have to do all the things the climate scientists suggest for the other reason - There Isnt Much Left.
not to mention the pollution

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[–] Oblivioid (1551) 2 months ago

I'm not against alternative energy at all, as long as it doesn't impeed progress. Billy Bob makes a great point that we need a solution before all the oil is gone, although he doesn't mention it will take a few hundred years before that happens, and that doesn't include finding deposits of new oil in the future.

There are ways that Americans waste oil that are mind boggling, and nobody thinks about it. I can't source the article, it's been years since I read it, but I remember reading that one NASCAR race, with all the trials and tuning, plus the race itself uses enough fuel to run Reagan International Airport for 30 days or something stupid like that ( I really wish I could remember the source here).

The other fact is that Americans do a lot to conserve though, and our country tries to bring cleaner energy to the fore. What is really hypocritical and irritating about all of it is how we are lectured, when everyone knows China and India are the largest polluters of everything on this planet. America is not the source of all the worlds pollution, but we sure get the blame, and when I say 'we' I mean your average work-a-day American who does nothing more than drive to work every day to keep our economy going, and he/she buys groceries, pays bills and tries to just mind his own business but has to be lectured by really ignorant people who don't even realize their precious Iphone is made with evil oil.

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[–] moviechatterer (16300) 2 months ago

some good points there

"doesn't mention it will take a few hundred years "
I'd really like to think thats true , but its not what I read , and ui've read a lot on this subject , although not recently , basically due to giving up in despair and "going with it"

NASCAR races and such are fine , Its an amazing rate of consumption but its limited in time and scale. Everybody in the country keeping a coffee pot warm all day is far worse - just due to the numbers

" Americans do a lot to conserve though"
Some , yes , not as much as most other western countries , look at graphs of energy consumtion per capita.

India and china are donig more than you think, china especially with renewables , and i'm betting there energy use per head is not as much as western , Also all those factories in china are making stuff for us not them - so some of those emissions and energy usage are ours.

" nothing more than drive to work every day"
y'know , in the future , when we're done burning all the ancient sunlight energy stored in the oil . A 2 ton steel box transporting one person is going to be a ludicrous idea. People are probly gonna have to move to public transport one day , amongst a whole bunch of other compromises.

"precious Iphone is made with evil oil."
I dont think anybody is suggesting that we stop using oil in all its current implementations just for the sake of it being oil - we should just stop wasting it by burning it for fuel and save it for iphones and gearbox oil for the windmills.
again - because theres not much left.

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[–] JoWilli (21561) 2 months ago

the 1970's called, they said we are almost out of oil. lol

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[–] moviechatterer (16300) 2 months ago

didja find some?
the US alone needs 80m barrels a day

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[–] JoWilli (21561) 2 months ago

not yet,
I am guessing the rest of the world needs 1000m barrels a day. no one will care until we are truly running out. that could be 10 to 100 years from now.

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[–] moviechatterer (16300) 2 months ago

you're a little out , the USA burns 20% of the daily world consumption, despite being 4% of the population.

Problem is when we are "truly running out" there will be no time . Society will collapse immediately , we've seen the precursors of this when there is even a temporary shortage

Making the biggest change in the history of mankind needs a little planning and time for its implementation, which aint gonna happen , i just hope I'm dead before it comes to it.

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