killing of Little Blacky
so why did Cogburn kill that poor "pony" horse Little Blacky at the end? couldn't he just let him leave?
shareso why did Cogburn kill that poor "pony" horse Little Blacky at the end? couldn't he just let him leave?
shareyou are all mad
shareWow, what an ignorant moron! This just shows what American society, which replaced childhood books with stupid videogames, breeds these days.
Any person who had as much as a normal childhood and read normal adventure books knows this simple fact about horses. A horse that was forced to push beyond the point of being simply tired (and the moment of that "pushing" is shown very clearly in the movie) to the point when it can no longer walk, will inevitably die. And it will die torturous and horrible slow death. Back in those times shooting a horse in this terminal condition was a gesture of mercy.
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do not forget that TRUE GRIT is based on a novel, and in the novel they take only one horse - Little Blackie. in the novel Rooster does not shoot Little Blackie when he collapses and can't get back up. also Rooster knows that Mattie will be unconscious from her injuries and so would not have been able to stay up on a second horse alone while galloping. Rooster shooting Little Blackie is something the Coens made up for their movie. it isn't in the book. i believe they added it to have a scene where Mattie shows some raw emotion - crying - something she doesn't do anywhere else in the movie. actually Mattie is serious and unemotional, except anger at Rooster, throughout the movie.
share>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s-sloan50: do not forget that TRUE GRIT is based on a novel, and in the novel they take only one horse - Little Blackie. in the novel Rooster does not shoot Little Blackie when he collapses and can't get back up.>>>>>>>>
How come Rooster does not shoot him in the novel? Was the horse in better shape?
Of all the shooting of human beings in True Grit, it was the running of Little Blackie into the ground and then the shooting of him that made me have a very long moment of deep sadness.. Infact, It still makes me sad thinking about it..
Maybe he didn't run little Blackie so hard into the ground in the novel? I haven't read it though
All you animal defenders don't know what you're blabbing about.
The horse's fate was sealed at the point where it was done in, when it gave up, and Rooster stabbed him with his knife to keep going. The shot to the head afterwards was the best thing that could have happened to Little Blackie at that point.
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Honestly, I just assumed Rooster shot Little Blackie in the novel.
shareI'm pretty sure that was implied. As readers would surely know that when a horse has been run into the ground such as Blackie, that it's life is over. Shooting the horse in the head would've been the most humane way of handling this.
~Jesus wept.~
it was brutal. I'm surprised this film didn't get the R slapped on it.
shareI was lucky enough to understand why Blackie was shot. Even if the horse was left to die without being shot in the book I reckon the Coens made the right call in depicting Rooster putting it out of its misery. Put it this way, the scenes could involve Rooster just picking up Mattie and going on his merry way, whilst overhearing the sounds of a distressed and dying horse in the frosty night air for a considerable amount of time, or he could shoot it dead and they'll both have peace.
On a slightly related (and more lighthearted) note though, I totally forgot horses could swim!
"My name's Brian and so's my wife!"
This was a totally unnecessary and brutal part of the film and I hope that poor horse was not harmed or distressed in any way during the making of it
shareIt is obvious too many of you on here are ignorant of what life was like back then? Have you read any true accounts of what life was like for people back in the 19th century? Life was hard. It was not easy. Death and suffering was commonplace. For your own education please go to the library or amazon.com and read up on some true accounts of life during the 19th century. You might just learn something.
Too many of you are caught up in your unrealistic view of animals and humans that you cannot grasp what was really shown in the film. First, Blackie was the only chance Rooster had to save Mattie. Second, Rooster knew full well that Blackie would not make it. He was a well seasoned marshal of the west. He had lived a hard life and he knew what was coming for Blackie. Third, he loved Mattie and cared for her deeply, so he did what was necessary to save her, even though he knew what this would mean for Blackie. He had a difficult choice to make, but did not hesitate. He made that choice because Mattie’s life meant far more to him than the life of Blackie, (I know that is not a concept some of the animal activists can grasp.) Being a loving adult, he did what was necessary. Fourth, when Blackie finally collapsed and was laying their dying he showed his compassion for Blackie and for Mattie by killing Blackie, rather than letting the poor horse suffer the pain that he was going through and endure possibly being eaten alive by predators such as wolves or mountain lions (again, your ignorance of life back then is immense.) Many of you are so worried about your own feelings you would rather leave the horse to be eating alive than have to see rooster shoot him. What Rooster did is called being responsible. What you are doing is irresponsible. Fifth, he acted as any loving guardian would to a child, he did what had to be done for the good of all, even while having to endure the obvious emotional distress from Mattie and his own distress from having to kill Blackie. Later on, if Mattie has any common sense, she knows he did the best and loving thing by taking the horses life at that moment, rather than leave him there to die slowly and painfully. She would eventually realize that by leaving the horse alive he would have left the poor animal open to attack from predators without any chance to defend himself while he lay there suffering in great agony.
Those humans who get all bent out of shape over Rooster killing Blackie are the animal haters. You are not mad because he killed the horse, you are mad because you don't like dealing with reality and how it makes YOU feel. Yeah, I cried when Blackie was shot. I hated it that it had to happen. Just like I cried the first time my baby son got his immunizations and screamed when the needle stuck him. Just like I cried when I had to have my dog euthanized when she broke her back. But guess what. We have to sometimes do things that we don't like for the betterment of others. I did not like how I felt when my son got his shots, but I knew it was best. I did not like how I felt when my dog was euthanized, but for her sake, I had it done. I could have left her alive to just slowly die a painful death, as you would suggest, but I made the humane and responsible decision not to let her suffer. Rooster likely did not like how it felt when he shot Blackie, but he knew it was best. Mattie, still young and a child was acting as many of you on here are, like a child who has yet to fully mature. She was not dealing with the reality of the situation for Blackie. Mattie was more concerned with how it made her feel at that moment, not with what Blackie would go through if he were left there to die. Just as many of you are more concerned about your immediate "feelings" than you are about what Blackie would have suffered if left there to die a slow and agonizing death. Unfortunately you would be ok with that as long as you don’t have to deal with how it makes you feel.
And again, I hated Blackie’s death. It was one of the most heart wrenching moments of the movie for me. However, it would be far more heartwrenching to have watched Mattie die in Rooster’s arms because he just could not put a horses life at risk to try and save Mattie. What an irresponsible and weak person he would have been if he had made that decision.
I hope that poor horse was not harmed or distressed in any way during the making of it
Because it is a movie...........
shareGood points, Duncan.
And also.....movies....stories....aren't always going to have 100% happy-happy elements to them. Not all stories end in nice happy endings. Stories are meant to elicit feelings....sometimes happy...sometimes sad...or mad. Sometimes they leave you questioning life...your faith....why things are the way they are.
The Little Blackie scene was a tough, emotional scene...but it was the reality of the situation. It made me FEEL...deeply. I was very emotional about it. And ya know what...I've watched True Grit several more times over the years...partly because I like westerns in general...partly because it had a strong cast and it was a good story....and partly because it touched me emotionally (MANY emotions...not just happy-happy ones). If the director removed every element of True Grit that was tough and emotional to watch....there wouldn't be much of a story left to show. At least not one with any feeling or soul in it.
If you ONLY want movies/books/stories to elicit simple, happy little feelings....you'll never grow much emotionally or intellectually. Don't read The Bible....don't watch Old Yeller....or The Shawshank Redemption...or The Champ....or Brian's Song....or Titanic. etc, etc, etc......
There's always The Disney Channel.
It was tough to watch.
shareIt was tough to watch - but even at that, the Cohn's softened it a little.
It's been a long time since I read the book, and I don't remember whether Rooster shot Blackie or not. What I do remember is that when Blackie began to tire, Rooster slashed his flank to make him speed up. And when he slowed down again, Rooster pulled a handful of salt out of his pocket and rubbed it in the cut to speed him up again.
Let's don't lose sight of the fact that after Little Blackie went down, Rooster very nearly killed himself carrying Mattie the rest of the way. He was determined to get her to help, at whatever cost - to Blackie, to the injured Ranger he left behind, to himself. All he cared about at that moment was Mattie, and nothing was going to stop him. And that was why he had True Grit.
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It was tough to watch - but even at that, the Cohn's softened it a little.
It's been a long time since I read the book, and I don't remember whether Rooster shot Blackie or not. What I do remember is that when Blackie began to tire, Rooster slashed his flank to make him speed up. And when he slowed down again, Rooster pulled a handful of salt out of his pocket and rubbed it in the cut to speed him up again.
Let's don't lose sight of the fact that after Little Blackie went down, Rooster very nearly killed himself carrying Mattie the rest of the way. He was determined to get her to help, at whatever cost - to Blackie, to the injured Ranger he left behind, to himself. All he cared about at that moment was Mattie, and nothing was going to stop him. And that was why he had True Grit.
He used the horse to death to save Maddie. He chose a human being over a horse and he had been in the habit throughout the film of showing no particular preference towards sparing several human lives either.
I understand how modern sensibilities will be shocked by the horse more than the people, since we see more human death in TV than animal, but to have this emotional response go unchecked by basic ethical choices like a human life is more valuable than a horse's life and to fail to see it in the context of the film either with how it presents its version of the brutal west is beyond me.
People are truly strange.