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Luke telling Grogu he can't have attachment to anyone


Anyone think he's kind of a hypocrite? was he not attached to Han and Leia? He loved them and was always with them, why is he telling Grogu he can't be both a Jedi and have a friend he cares for? Like if he chose to be with Mando he'd have to give up being a Jedi, even though there have been Mandalorian Jedi.

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Grogu just said, "Fuck this shit. I'm out of here."

Good for Grogu. Thanks to the awful execution of the "Star Wars" sequels, Luke is just on that typical, depressing fate of being a broken-down old man who has to suffer, for whatever reason the writers came up with. Glad that Grogu got his green behind out of there!

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I'm not. Unless they're going somewhere with that, like Mando insisting he go back, it almost completely makes Season 2, and trying so hard for the damn baby to FIND a Jedi to be with, pointless. Plus the show doesn't need to continue being "The Grogu Show". They've done that dance for 2+ seasons. It's totally OK for them to go in another direction now. But I feel they won't, because "Baby Yoda" is popular. "Give the fans more Baby Yoda!"

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If Grogu stayed with Luke, wouldn't he have wound up dead with everyone else from Luke's Jedi Temple?

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Only if you consider that garbage cannon, which I do not.

And if Filoni/etc. were smart, they would never ever have their shows touch on or even vaguely reference elements from those movies whatsoever. That way, people who for whatever insane reason like them, can act as if they ARE canon and will happen. And the rest of us are free to think they aren't at all, and can thus enjoy this content without thoughts of "Kylo/Rey/Snoke shit is gonna happen tho".

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Agreed with the dangers in alluding to the sequel trilogy. Apart from that, it would be best if Filoni and Favreau just went rogue and rewrote the whole sequel trilogy.

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Yes. They should be ignored regardless. It would be a shocking move, but they should be officially rendered non-canon. Because it wasn't earnest, honest film-making from the get go. They threw out Lucas' original story, and didn't even have a concrete plan of their own. Ever, at any point. It was amateur film-making, combined with bad fan-fiction, with a billion dollar budget. The plan for the first movie was literally "some people hate the prequels, so let's make a carbon copy of A New Hope to 'remind people of what they love about Star Wars'". It was a hollow nostalgia trip with zero truly memorable characters or events. And the "trilogy" only went down from there, no reason to even expound on the rest.

I know some people seem to love those movies. I know a couple. But as a life-long Star Wars fan, the franchise deserved better. We fans deserved better. Lucas deserved better. He never should have sold, honestly. And I would have rather they never made another film, certainly not another "trilogy". The Prequels weren't what they should have been, but they were solid, and told the story they were meant to tell. Otherwise? A live action show ala Mando was going to be produced anyway. A sequel CGI series to Clone Wars was inevitably going to get made anyway, due to CW popularity. They could have, and should have in hindsight, just made some shows to further expand the universe, and that was that.

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EXACTLY! I definitely agree. Lucas never should have sold. Dude couldn't have needed the money. And you'd have to be completely out of it to NOT realize how Disney just milks properties for every penny they can get out of them. Michael Eisner started that whole thing, like trolling parents with "You have to buy a copy of this movie NOW before it goes away!" kind of stuff. Even Pixar is a sequel generator these days. The rest of us were just waiting for the soulless "Star Wars" product to be generated. And that's exactly what we got, made by content producers like Abrams.

I am glad that Filoni and Favreau are trying like they are. But I am pretty sure that every punctuation mark is scrutinized by Kathleen Kennedy and her enablers before a single frame is allowed to be shot. The only way I see the sequel trilogy being redone is if it is done with fan films. And while Disney hasn't interfered with them as far as I know, if a well-budgeted, crowdfunded set of fan films would be made trying to rewrite the sequel trilogy, it would be interesting to see if Disney would object.

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It wasn’t pointless. Grogu needed to connect with the Jedi.

1. Him meeting Ashoka was necessary to know his identity and find out what happened to him.

2. His brief training with Luke helped him make peace with his past and remember everything he learned.

He might not be a Jedi, but he doesn’t have to be. The Force is more than the Jedi. I feel there are more things he uncovered thanks to Luke than what we have seen.

I am excited to see what his next adventure will be.

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He also saved a mass murderer simply because it was his father.

ROTJ-era Luke is the worst like. As you point out, he's a hypocrite. He has attachments, but also this odd belief that you can't have any. I think he has trouble separating himself from who he was vs who Jedi have to be; and he's a cold emotionless prick as a result.

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Every time Star Wars starts inventing rules for itself it becomes totally stupid. Rules for Jedi, rules for Sith, rules for Mandalorians, rules for Midicloreans. It's all dumb as hell. Just be fun and mysterious. It's a story as big as a galaxy and they keep trying to make it more finite and basic.

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Seemed to me that Ahsoka was more anti-attachment than Luke

Luke recognized how important Din was to Grogu and decided to give him a choice, probably knowing full well what Grogu would choose

Also,, I didn’t see it so much as Luke wanting Grogu to give up his attachment to Din as forcing Grogu to recognize an unpleasant reality: given Grogu’s expected lifespan and the rigor of Jedi training, there’s a very real possibility that Grogu will never see Din again unless he gave up now

Plus, the choice scene is right out of Lone Wolf & Cub, where he makes his son choose the sword (life with his father as a wandering ronin) or a ball (merciful death to be with his mother)

Luke was forcing Grogu to decide between season 3 of the Mandalorian or certain death at Kylo Ren’s hands (though I’d imagine 20 years with Luke would make Grogu pretty hard for Kylo to kill)

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Hell. Mando is nothing but LW&C - In Space! And I'm all for it.

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