Right so.. theres only one pod, but they can both most definitely fit in it.
Why not get the robot bar tender to use the captains id to put them both into hibernation?
I thought of it straight away.. anyone else??
robot bartender can't leave the bar
sharewell... maybe because the pod is not made for two people. what you are saying does not make any sense
shareThey can both fit in it..
shareHow is the Autodoc supposed to conduct any medical procedures with 2 distinct sets of vital signs, coming from 2 people of different body mass and physical makeup?
Its like asking the anaesthesiologist in an operating room to safely put 2 people to sleep using the average of their vital signs, or guessing which one goes with which vital signs.
one autodoc... uh... 5000 passengers... plot hole... lol
shareThe bigger hole is that there is only ONE POD. Any space fairing type scenario would have 2 if not 3 levels of backup.
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Indeed. There should even be more then one operational with over 5000 people to care for during 4 months.
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There should be somewhere between 10 to 50 medical pods available (one for every 500 to one for every 50 people), in case of some major illness or disaster. And even more in storage for the colony ahead.
shareWhy are they sending luxury accommodations for the passengers to use for the last 4 months at all? That's a giant waste of payload for people needing to settle a new world. If you want to give them a 4 month party right before they experience their new world, then throw it on Earth first. They won't know the difference.
shareThey'd be living in it for a while, even after it landed.
shareYup, pretty much that.
5000 passengers + 200 somewhat crew and they only have one medical station/autodoc without any backups? No autodocs in the cargo bay for the colony they are supposed to build?
So all these colonists and all their offspring are supposed to build their own medical stations/autodocs? What happens when they have a major incident with several injured people? As far as I saw the medical station didn't even have any beds in it, just that one autodoc thing.
Doesn't matter how many there were, one person was still needed to operate it. That was unequivocally stated.
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That's true, but the operation aspect is one thing they could hypothetically find a work around for, ...being they have a lifetime [ie robot]. This piece still doesn't preclude the oversight of having just one single unit.
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it doesn't matter, when he first woke up, his hand was attached to something, it's clearly designed for one person
shareWhat really bothered me was the slingshot part. The computer was announcing about it and telling passengers to come to the viewing deck. But everyone was suppose to be in hibernation at this time so it makes no sense at all to make that announcement.
shareSpot on dude! Thats the only thing that really bothered me.
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The computer knows there are passengers awake therefore it alerted them to something that would be of interest to them. I don't think it was an automated announcement that was always planned. Its not a plot hole. There are other questionable things in this movie though...
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lol what? It did know they are awake because they interacted with computer, not the other way around like in this case. Its is a plot hole and it doesnt make sense.
Pods are suppose to be fail proof so there is no way they would just randomly set a message to go off 90 years before landing, just in case if anyone was awake, haha. Huge and disturbing plot hole. There were others too, but the main problem I have with this one.
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The fact is, is that they were awake therefore the computer alerted them to the slingshot. Its not a plot hole given how interactive the AI is with the passengers. Its like saying the bar tender interacting with the passengers is a plot hole because they should have been asleep.
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It is a fact that they were awake, its also a fact that AI wouldnt and couldnt point that out for them, since nobody was ever awake on this point of the trip and someone would obviously have to program it that way.
AI cant just look out of the window and say 'Oh wow, what a nice view, lets share it with the two people that have woken up', someone has to program it that way. We can argue on this all day but it is a little bit of a plot hole.
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No, it's not a plot hole. Remember how the computer played a greeting message for both of them when they woke up? So obviously the computer detected there were people awake on the ship and adapted its routines accordingly. Otherwise they both would've starved to death because they wouldn't have access to sleeping chambers, food or drinks. It was an AI after all.
shareYou seem to not understand what a plot hole is.
The situation you describe is called an anachronism. It's something that doesn't make sense, but allows the story to still function.
A plot hole is something that keeps the story from functioning, such as a core story fact that is contradicted later in the movie.
A very simple example would be the audience seeing someone who is a core factor to the story, die at one point and then they appear later and without explanation. And it's done to allow the characters to continue to solve the goal of the story.
That's a plot hole, not some random dialog from an AI that has no bearing on the story actually functioning.
Ahh yes, you are right. Thanks for the explanation, honestly never heard of the word anachronism. I will keep it in mind :)
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An anachronism is something out of time.
Zippers used before the invention of zippers or a modern colloquial phrase used in a film based in the past are examples of anachronisms.
Anachronisms can create plot holes, but they often just cause inaccuracies.
You forgot that Arcturus is 36 lightyears from Earth, and they have only been traveling 30 years, at something like half the speed of light. So, even if they were headed past Arcturus, they shouldn't arrive for another 40 years or so.
And, in addition, the slingshot technique is only useful for travel within a star system, when you are traveling at interplanetary speeds.
And, in addition, the slingshot technique is only useful for travel within a star system, when you are traveling at interplanetary speeds.
I must say this once again as I've said in several other Trends [sic]... It's a long way is the Homestead 2, I'm quite sure you can't just travel there in a straight line without hitting another Heavenly Body on the way there. Therefore you would need to use another Heavenly Body like a star to do a course correction.Sorry, but I guess you didn't bother to read comments I wrote on this. In our neck of the woods stars are far apart. Uranus is about three lighthours from the sun. Kuiper belt objects, maybe a couple of times that.
My father was a very intelligent man there's even a movie of his life,
You are what my father used to call an educated fool,
First of all the ship needs to accelerate to half the speed of light therefore the Avalon is not traveling 60 light-years, it's probably more around fifty light-years - actually that's a point for you because the ship is not going as far as you think,
I do have a it half doesn't books about astronomy a few of them from Carl Sagan, so I already know that the vast amount of space is a whole lot of nothing,
Your calculations don't mean anything because we don't know where Homestead 2 is,
Unless you actually plotted a computer course to every known star within about a 45 to 55 year light range your calculations don't mean anything.
Have a nice day..
First off (ignoring the hole that there is only one) the pod is specifically designed to treat one patient, thus both of them can be in suspended animation.
The movie is a love story, the point is that even though one of them could survive they chose not to because they felt like they would have a better life together no matter where they are.
With a movie like this it is just better to take these things at face value, it's not trying to be accurate, the director didn't think this was going to be his masterpiece.
I thought the major plot hole was when the deckhand woke up. Why didn't the deckhand wake up the chief engineer and have the chief engineer fix the reactor and put them back to hibernation.
shareI don't understand people who go to movies with a primary motivation of seeing if they can come up with one or more plot holes. It's not like it's some kind of contest. Or you win a prize or anything.
The film was thematically about how Jim and Aurora made the most of their situation, which included them falling in love. It was not about how they were too stupid to both go in the autodoc.
And btw I thought it was made clear that one of them had to operate the autodoc. Why wasn't that enough?