I'm from the UK and this movie confused me - is it an American thing to be so uptight about sex or just the people in this movie?! I know that it is a very Christian country but still this doesn't seem to govern the morals of everyone in the continent? I always thought that the term went 'No sex please we're British' but I think Brits seem to be far more free thinking about sex than Americans. I have been to the US but only Vegas where sex sells so don't think this counts lol so I guess I am going off the perception portrayed in movies.
I just thought they made such a huge deal about Olive having sex and I don't understand why - even though she didn't. It's only sex - the most natural thing in the world, and how we all got to be here. Two of my favourites quotes are -
Bill Hicks - "When did sex become bad - did I miss a meeting?!" and John Lennon - “We Live In A World Where We Have To Hide To Make Love, While Violence Is Practiced In Broad Daylight.”
So is it a general consensus in the US or just the movie heavily exaggerating?
I would say for most Americans over 40 sex is completely taboo. Its better with the younger group but still not where it should be. And sadly the youngest teens in our society due to the internet are not completely clueless about sex like their grandparents were but the downside is their parents are still such prudes that they never learn the difference between sexy and slutty. Sexy is a very healthy important human characteristic and we don't have much anymore. Its also why we have so many intensely "Christians" who don't believe in any part of Christianity. We go all or nothing on so many things when moderation is always the best strategy. Remember this is a country that RE-ELECTED George W Bush, you really shouldn't expect a whole lot.
Case in point what happens to women/girls who know they are sexy but think slutty is equal: Ariel Winter, Amanda Byrnes, Lindsay Lohan, etc.
Oh Marc, you couldn't be more wrong! I'm way older than 40. In fact, I'm so much over 40, I won't even tell you my age. :) I know firsthand, that most Americans over 40 do not consider sex taboo, at all!
Please remember, a lot of we older people were young, single, dating & having sex way back in the 60's and 70's. We all talked about our sex lives with our good friends, but it wasn't talked about as openly in most movies, on TV shows, etc., the way it is now.
Haven't you heard about all the "free love" in the 60's? Have you ever heard the phrase that was popular in the 60's, "make love, not war"? That was all about sex, kiddo. Haven't you heard about Woodstock? There was rampant public nudity & public sex gong on throughout that entire event!
I have heard and also read that there was also plenty of sexual activity with unmarried people in the 40's & 50's - it was talked about less openly than it was in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and now - but it was happening.
Sex may have been "taboo" with more people in the 40's & 50's than it was in & after the 60''s, though.
"Sing until your throat hurts, dance until your legs hurt, act until you're William Hurt."
I lived in Europe for a couple years and you are correct. Americans are very uptight about sex compared to Europeans. Prostitution is illegal except in Nevada, porn has a very negative stigma, promiscuity is highly looked down upon, etc. And there's some truth to the comment by Marc (above)... once we get above a certain age we hardly talk about it! I guess because by a certain age we're mostly married and we consider it no one else's business.
Maybe in some parts of America but, this movie did not at all represent my high school experience.
I had lost of my virginity in my freshman years and yes, I did have a few people calling me a slut and what no but, it was from people that already hated me. For the most part I was liked in school and majority of my friends did not care who I slept with just like I didn't care who they slept with.
Most teenagers are having sex nowadays and at this point in society, it's not really a big deal anymore. Especially with sex being in the open the way it is. Then again, it depends on where you live.
In real life, people would not have cared if Olive had lost her virginity mainly because she was a nobody. But that's movies for you. Either way I still enjoyed it.
I'm American and this movie confused me too... Nothing like how people really act at all. It was very silly.
I never knew anybody who reacted to having sex like that. Sure in high school if a girl starts to get slutty people may talk about it a little.
But would the whole school talk about it? No, most people would not care unless they knew her or one of the people she got with personally.
Would they stare at her like they did like she was some sort of celebrity? Never. Seriously, tons of the people in the school should have lost their virginity by then, there is no way they could make that big of a deal about every single person, know about who had sex when, or even care. Again, unless they were friends with her or something, nobody would care, and she would still have most likely been a nobody except for a few of the creeper guys trying to ask her out.
Would every guy start approaching her and trying to get with her or trying to get her to pretend to? Never heard of this happening in my life just because somebody lost their virginity.
And I have never seen a group of horrible Christian people get into the business of people who decide to have sex. I didn't even have a group of horrible Christians at all in my high school. There were some prudish Christians, but they would just avoid people who were having sex, in fact they wouldn't even want to talk about it because they thought it was bad. But otherwise they were usually nice, not b*tches.
The majority of Americans are nothing like that from what I've seen, I've never heard of an entire school of people acting like that. Most of the time like 50% of high school students are sexually active at some point, maybe even more than that if you're in poorer areas, they would think it was totally normal and wouldn't care.
In real life even if Olive lied about having sex to her friends AND she started wearing those outfits, most people would still think of her as a nobody, except for those few creepy guys again. And some girls would talk behind her back about it. Or maybe the teachers would try to convince her that it was inappropriate and against the dress code (in my high school there was no specific dress code like skirts of certain length, etc. the only rule was "clothing or lack thereof that is distracting to other students or makes other students uncomfortable in some way is not allow" so if their rules were anything like that she would not be permitted to wear that). But that's about it, really no big deal.
That is probably my least favorite thing about this movie, when I first watched it I was like REALLY!? who reacts to things like that? It was stupid, and incredibly unrealistic. I did think there were a lot of funny parts/lines in the movie which is why I liked it, but as far as the general plot, it wasn't such a good one. A lot of it was lame... but that's how most movies are there days I guess.
Overall, it depends on where in the country you are and the group in question. In a big city, people probably won't care, but in a small town (high school no less) there's probably not a whole lot else to latch onto. After a certain age though, sex gets more taboo.
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I went to a small school in Alabama. We had elementary through highschool all in one building. Students were sexually active starting in Middle School and nobody thought much about it. I actually lost my virginity in HomeEc class while the other students kept watch for Miss Browning. It was talked about for awhile, but nothing negative. Our student body was probably 100% Christian, but I've never seen any stuck up snobby Christians like the ones in this movie. Everybody just wanted to have fun and finish school.
Anyways, I liked the movie even though it was taken to the tenth power of exaggeration. It's told from her perspective so it's expected that there will be some liberties taken.
No, we're not that horrified about sex. This is a comedy movie based on The Scarlet Letter. The shock from other students about Olive having sex and staring at her the way they did was very exaggerated to be like the reaction of the townspeople to Hester in the book. It is not really like this in American high schools. Maybe if she'd have gang-banged half the basketball or football team she would get this kind of reaction.
The entire school population is not shocked just because someone has sex. In reality plenty of students would already have had sex by Olive's age. The guy taking the rumored super-slutty girl on a date pretending to like her when all he really wanted was sex because she was easy...well, that part was an accurate portrayal, at least at my high school. I actually knew a couple of guys who did that. lol.
Lol that was my first thought too. I knew people who lost their virginity at 14 (and some even younger) and while some people were surprised by it, most people didn't care. They thought "cool, you had sex" then carried on with life.