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Hawaiians playing race card for this movie makes no sense.If anything...

posted 10 years ago by chrisg-33
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I went into this movie with a preconceived notion that it was so blatantly racist to the point of black face. I guess I can thank our lovely liberal media for that idea. This movie is pretty damn PC, and I think it went out of its way to show local culture even though it is about a love story on a US military base. The main story line is about a billionaire working with US military to put a satellite into outer space. Are all the military personnel and space contractors supposed to be Hawaiian?? WTF is wrong with you idiots? Frankly the whole Hawaiian separatist movement\group story line was not needed at all and very typical lefty Hollywood. If anything there were probably too many locals in this movie since 90% of it was on a military base and in the middle of the ocean.

Now this whole drama about the 1/4th Hawaiian Emma Stone argument is pretty funny too. Cameron Crowe claims he based his decision on choosing Emma because he knew a red headed Hawaiian in real life that looked white. Is that too hard to fathom? I'm a white man who is married to a beautiful El Salvadorian woman, and we have a gorgeous daughter who happens to look white. That is 1/2, and she looks white. It is kind of sad and funny that when my wife takes our daughter to the park mid week the nannies ask her how long has she been watching our daughter for? Even if Emma stone is just claiming she is 1/4th Hawaiian but really isn't, that is also a realistic character. That would make the casting of Emma even better. The script kind of hints at the deception with her always making sure she tells everyone that she is part Hawaiian. There are plenty of white people on the mainland that claim they are part Native American all the time, but you wonder.

So in closing, STFU and try to enjoy the movie instead of making a note of every Hawaiian that you think should have been on the silver screen... "Silver" wait, that is Ageist!

[–] Zanza8 10 years ago

Awesome post, Chrisg. My heart goes out to your wife and daughter. There's been a lot of hate expressed for people of mixed race who look white and it's really a shame there can't be tolerance.

http://thinkingoutloud-descartes.blogspot.com/

[–] Scaar_Alexander 10 years ago

Totally agree with you on all points. The hatred toward that movie is irrational, and the complaining about Emma Stone totally nonsensical (she's SUPPOSED to look nothing like a Hawaiian...). It's complete mass hysteria generated by a minority of antiracist morons.

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[–] cljohnston108 9 years ago

Absolutely! Ng's mother was Swedish, and we all know about those dominant Nordic genes!

[–] randir14-1 9 years ago

Absolutely! Ng's mother was Swedish, and we all know about those dominant Nordic genes!

My cousin is Swedish and married to a Hawaiian woman. Two of their kids look white with light brown hair, one looks slightly asian with light brown hair, the fourth looks half asian with black hair. Two of them have blue eyes.

[–] vicky_lc2001-1 10 years ago

Most Latinos are mestizos, a term used for people who are mixed mongoloid (Native American) and Caucasian (white). So your wife being mixed herself, it's not surprising your kids look more white since they're mostly white.

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[–] chrisg-33 10 years ago

I didn't mention in this post but another one on the same subject that she is also part Belizean. Which pretty much is a mix of black and Latin. Her grandfather looked like LA Mayor Tom Bradley, and her hair is very thick and curly like a black woman's. I am also part Greek and Turkish. I have cousins with the beautiful olive skin and green eyes. My point is when you have such a diverse gene pool it really is a crap shoot as to what your child will look like. We are expecting another girl in October and we literally have no idea of how she is going to turn out. Yes there is a high chance my kid will have Brown eyes, but you never know.

[–] vicky_lc2001-1 10 years ago

Having thick and curly hair isn't indicative of Black African hair because Black African hair is actually very very thin and fine kinky hair. That's why Black people, especially their women, wear wigs or extensions because their hair gets damaged easily if straightened/colored and can't grow hair very long because their fine hair doesn't have the strength to do so. Mongoloid hair otoh like that of Asians and Native Americans is the opposite of Black African hair, it's very very thick and coarse which is why they have no problems growing their hair past their butts and why it grows very very fast, their hair is strong enough to do so. Caucasian hair is in between Black African hair and Mongoloid hair, it can be very very fine or very very course, if hair can grow very long, it's usually more coarse but if it can't grow past your shoulders then it's very very fine.

So your wife having thick hair can be indicative of either Mongoloid or Caucasian hair. Her hair being curly can be indicative of her Caucasian background as well as many Southern Europeans have curly hair. People in Brazil may have Black ancestry but they also both have Caucasian and Mongoloid ancestry. Still your kids would be more Caucasian than either Black or Mongoloid so it makes sense that their features show that.

Ever notice how many mixed people who are half Caucasian and half Asian look Latino, that's because they are mestizos like Latinos.

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[–] chrisg-33 10 years ago

Do me a favor and type Belizean woman in google pics. My wife's hair is that of a mixed african and mestizos. I would love to post a pic of her, but my wife won't even let me put anything up on facebook. Her hair is exactly like the girl's on the right (Click or copy link below). She looked a lot like that girl when she was little. She looks like the poster child for a typical Belizean which is all the above mentioned, with obvious African traits. When she wakes up in the morning it pretty much is an Afro. Like I said in the last post, her Grandfather looked exactly like Tom Bradley. I was never arguing against why my child was white in complexion and looks, but how people(me included) can be surprised with the genetic outcome of different Ethnicities having children.

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[–] Zanza8 10 years ago

Your wife must have very beautiful hair indeed. One thing I am finding amusing about this hair discussion is that in Norway, there is a gene for wooly hair. That's what it's called, wooly hair. Google "wooly haired Norwegian" and read about it and look at the pictures. There literally is no trait that is possessed by only one race.

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[–] vicky_lc2001-1 10 years ago

Maybe she does have African features but is she has coarse hair and wears her real hair, then clearly that's highly influenced by her non Black ancestry because typical black hair is very fine and very short. They can't even grow their hair as long as the pics you posted. Look at Obama or Halle Berry who are half white but look mostly black. For all you know her father is only half Black and your wife a quarter. Black traits are very dominant so you think they're more Black then they actually are.

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[–] chrisg-33 10 years ago

Who would of thunk i'd be talking about my wife's hair to such length. Black traits are dominant, and so are brown hair and brown eyes. I see time and time again though how the supposed recessive traits break through on people. It is sort of like if you had a bunch of Mr potato head pieces and shook em up and you get what you get. That's why life is so amazing and beautiful. I'm so excited to see what my new daughter in October is going to look like.

[–] kd4ml 9 years ago

I do not believe all the name calling here! I recently found, through DNA, that I my wife and kids have a little bit of North African DNA. Her family fought in the Revolutionary War. So what... Some of the contributors here remind me of a comment from one of my slower adult students a few years back, "I CAN'T BE RACIST, I'M BLACK!" I think we are all capable of prejudging our neighbor. (...and, yes, Camille, there is also a difference between ignorant and stupid.)

Please, don't get me started about the rights of the "noble savage". No one wants to return to stone age pagan idolatry, human sacrifice, incest and cannibalism.

[–] WinInLife 9 years ago

Having thick and curly hair isn't indicative of Black African hair because Black African hair is actually very very thin and fine kinky hair. That's why Black people, especially their women, wear wigs or extensions because their hair gets damaged easily if straightened/colored and can't grow hair very long because their fine hair doesn't have the strength to do so.

Please don't act as if you're an expert on Black hair. So many fallacies in the above statement, I can't believe you even wrote that with a straight face. You are incredibly ignorant.

Unless you've been living under a rock, I'm sure you've seen the natural hair movement that's been around for years. Do your research.

[–] vicky_lc2001-1 9 years ago

Natural hair movement of Black people? We have negritos in our country but they don't wear wigs or extensions. I'm talking about African Americans who often wear fake hair. As for Black people having fine hair, you can do an easy research and find out for yourself.

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[–] HelloMyNameIsMrBurns 9 years ago

As a liberal, I agree with what you have said.

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[–] lexob9 9 years ago

whats with Hawaiians bitching and whining about everything already? seems like they are very pretentious people having problem just about anything on earth and beyond.

[–] cocacolaistherealthing 9 years ago

I rented the movie because of the outrage people had over Stone playing a Hawaiian--I thought they were trying to pass her off as a full-blooded, native Hawaiian, but it turns out it's a total nonissue for the reasons you mentioned.

I wonder how many people objecting to this aspect of the film have actually seen it.

I didn't care for the movie, but feel this is unfair/nonsensical criticism of it.

[–] britwrit 9 years ago

Eh. I don't think the movie was very good at all but I also get the sense that Cameron Crowe was trying to say something about colonialism. And what makes identity identity. And the pushing out into new frontiers, the end of the United States empire, the Pacific future, and blah blah blah, etc. etc.

All pretty muddled but I suppose you have to give him points for trying, and not just going for all the old rom-com staples. There's also some cynical humor in Emma Stone's character, who looks like a Caucasian for all intents and purposes, continually insisting on her essential Hawaiian identity.