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Central premise = fatally flawed plot hole


The central premise of the film ‘Limitless’ (2011) and its source novel ‘The Dark Fields’ (2001) is fatally flawed, since it is predicated on an urban legend. When Vernon introduces Eddie Morra to the NZT48 drug MacGuffin, he perpetuates the old “We only use 10% of our brain” myth (though doubling it to 20%), and Eddie fails to challenge him. Since that myth is false, it’s also false that 30 seconds after taking a ‘miracle pill’ anybody could become hyper-intelligent and memory-perfect.

The old “We only use 10% of our brain” myth has been extensively debunked [1] by, for instance:

• Neuroscientist Barry Beyerstein in "Whence Cometh the Myth that We Only Use 10% of our Brains?", in Prof. Sergio Della Sala's ‘Mind Myths: Exploring Popular Assumptions About the Mind and Brain’, 1999
» http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mind-Myths-Exploring-Popular-Assumptions/dp/04 71983039

• Psychologist Benjamin Radford, Managing Editor of the ‘Skeptical Inquirer’, at Snopes.com, 2007
» http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percent.asp

• Professor of Human Cognitive Neuroscience Sergio Della Sala in ‘Tall Tales about the Mind & Brain’, Xmas lecture in Edinburgh, 2008
— 'We only use 10% of our brain' myth debunked from 23:00 to 41:30
» video, 57:07 – http://www.ed.ac.uk/news/all-news/dalyell-prize

• Mythbusters Grant Imahara, Kari Byron, and Tory Belleci, in ‘MythBusters’ Episode 151, 2010
» http://mythbustersresults.com/tablecloth-chaos

Even with the willing suspension of disbelief in primary physiological/psychological truths, the films still fails – because as many authentically intelligent reviewers and board posters have pointed out, the writers just weren’t up to the task of writing a convincing hyper-intelligent memory-perfect protagonist, let alone a likeable one.

The only level on which the film works is as an allegorical and satirical fable on the dreadful state of C21 American society – desperate for the 30 second quick fix solution in pill form, addicted to vulgar materialism and “I'm all right, Jack” narcissistic egoism, obsessed with recreational sex, and mired in dog-eat-dog casino capitalism where businessmen are morally equivalent to drug dealers, all ruled over by the plutocracy of Big Capital. I guess you’re getting dealt the kind of decadent films you deserve.

dalinian

[1] The 'We only use 10% of our brain' myth has been extensively debunked – for instance:

• Studies of brain damage: If 90% of the brain is normally unused, then damage to these areas should not impair performance. Instead, there is almost no area of the brain that can be damaged without loss of abilities. Even slight damage to small areas of the brain can have profound effects.

• Evolution: The brain is enormously costly to the rest of the body, in terms of oxygen and nutrient consumption. It can require up to twenty percent of the body's energy – more than any other organ – despite making up only 2% of the human body by weight. If 90% of it were unnecessary, there would be a large survival advantage to humans with smaller, more efficient brains. If this were true, the process of natural selection would have eliminated the inefficient brains. By the same token, it is also highly unlikely that a brain with so much redundant matter would have evolved in the first place.

• Brain imaging: Technologies such as Positron Emission Tomography (PET) and functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) allow the activity of the living brain to be monitored. They reveal that even during sleep, all parts of the brain show some level of activity. Only in the case of serious damage does a brain have "silent" areas.

• Localization of function: Rather than acting as a single mass, the brain has distinct regions for different kinds of information processing. Decades of research have gone into mapping functions onto areas of the brain, and no function-less areas have been found.

• Microstructural analysis: In the single-unit recording technique, researchers insert a tiny electrode into the brain to monitor the activity of a single cell. If 90% of cells were unused, then this technique would have revealed that.

• Metabolic studies: Another scientific technique involves studying the take-up of radioactively labelled 2-deoxyglucose molecules by the brain. If 90 percent of the brain were inactive, then those inactive cells would show up as blank areas in a radiograph of the brain. Again, there is no such result.

• Neural disease: Brain cells that are not used have a tendency to degenerate. Hence if 90% of the brain were inactive, autopsy of adult brains would reveal large-scale degeneration.

~ Neuroscientist Barry Beyerstein, quoted in ‘10% of brain myth’, Wikipedia
» http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10%25_of_brain_myth

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People can't fly or bench press cars either the movie was at least consistant within the premis presented. That being said who knows what the drug did you are baseing your discontent on the sales pitch of a drug dealer.

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damn! did u take any pill before posting here?


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Personally the plot hole I was expecting to read about was that this pill makes you so aware and clever but he was unable to work out how to manufacture the drug (which MUST have been invented by someone NOT on it, as it did not exist before invention, so it must be within his capability)
Also if he was that clever surely he would have IMPROVED the drug or worked on how to stop the negative side effects?

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Copy and pasting does take ages!!

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I know people have already mentioned this, but I'm going to throw it out there again: Vernon doesn't say we only "use" 20% of our brain. He says we can only "access" 20% of our brain. That's not a myth and it has not been disproved.

Like most people, when I saw the trailer, I thought the film was based on a faulty premise. Then I actually WATCHED the movie and saw how the drug worked. It's all about accessing the subconscious mind, to which no person on this planet has full access. Eddie was always using 100% of his brain his entire life. That's the whole point. He just didn't have conscious access to all the information that was stored there until he started taking NZT.

Whether Vernon was lying or stupid or just trying to make a sale is irrelevant. The statement he made was perfectly legitimate.

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it depends how you look at it. your examples are only talking about percentage of matter. one of the key functions the drug gave him was the ability to recall mundane pieces of information that he did have, but would ordinarily be unable to access. for example, what did you eat for breakfast 11 days ago? how many ford's did you see on the way to work 16 days ago? etc... that information is there at least in part, and if someone told you "11 days ago you ate _______ for breakfast" you'd probably say "oh, yeah! that was the day that I _______". there is a huge amount of mundane information available to you, but effective access to it is what is lacking.

also, if you're trying to say "that's impossible!" all I can say is "no s***, it's a movie..."

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I actually turned the movie off at the point in the movie where he said we only use 20% of our brain.

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Is that because you'd seen 20% of the movie and could figure out the rest using the remaining 80% of your brain?

Oh whisky, leave me alone.

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You are correct, we don't only use 10% (or 20%) of our brain ... depending on the circumstances, we may use a much higher percentage of our brain (not 100% as different parts of the brain are reserved for specific tasks and would not be appropriately used all at the same time). Sure it's a "plot hole" in some respects, but it also presented a simplified explanation for a "smart pill".

I am sure everyone here has had moments of "inspiration", when everything suddenly seems so clear, an "eureka" moment, where we seem to be able to get so much accomplished in a short period of time ... but then that moment fades and we cannot get it back. Something happens in the brain to create this moment, some kind of chemical interaction, but no one knows what.

In fact, pharmaceutical companies are already working on medications with some similar properties (although of course nowhere as profound as NZT ... yet). For example, the drug "Aricept" currently indicated for use in treating people with Alzheimer's disease is supposed to improve memory, however, when used in "normal" people it has been shown to significantly boost memory and learning. Another drug used to treat ADHD is able to increase focus and alertness. If the properties of these drugs could be combined and amplified, we could have something like NZT.

I would certainly buy such a drug.

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Dalinian please try and get a life somehow! It was a MOVIE. Never expect movies to be totally coherent. Most of the people who go to see them have the intelligence of gnats.

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