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Central premise = fatally flawed plot hole


The central premise of the film ‘Limitless’ (2011) and its source novel ‘The Dark Fields’ (2001) is fatally flawed, since it is predicated on an urban legend. When Vernon introduces Eddie Morra to the NZT48 drug MacGuffin, he perpetuates the old “We only use 10% of our brain” myth (though doubling it to 20%), and Eddie fails to challenge him. Since that myth is false, it’s also false that 30 seconds after taking a ‘miracle pill’ anybody could become hyper-intelligent and memory-perfect.

The old “We only use 10% of our brain” myth has been extensively debunked [1] by, for instance:

• Neuroscientist Barry Beyerstein in "Whence Cometh the Myth that We Only Use 10% of our Brains?", in Prof. Sergio Della Sala's ‘Mind Myths: Exploring Popular Assumptions About the Mind and Brain’, 1999
» http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mind-Myths-Exploring-Popular-Assumptions/dp/04 71983039

• Psychologist Benjamin Radford, Managing Editor of the ‘Skeptical Inquirer’, at Snopes.com, 2007
» http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percent.asp

• Professor of Human Cognitive Neuroscience Sergio Della Sala in ‘Tall Tales about the Mind & Brain’, Xmas lecture in Edinburgh, 2008
— 'We only use 10% of our brain' myth debunked from 23:00 to 41:30
» video, 57:07 – http://www.ed.ac.uk/news/all-news/dalyell-prize

• Mythbusters Grant Imahara, Kari Byron, and Tory Belleci, in ‘MythBusters’ Episode 151, 2010
» http://mythbustersresults.com/tablecloth-chaos

Even with the willing suspension of disbelief in primary physiological/psychological truths, the films still fails – because as many authentically intelligent reviewers and board posters have pointed out, the writers just weren’t up to the task of writing a convincing hyper-intelligent memory-perfect protagonist, let alone a likeable one.

The only level on which the film works is as an allegorical and satirical fable on the dreadful state of C21 American society – desperate for the 30 second quick fix solution in pill form, addicted to vulgar materialism and “I'm all right, Jack” narcissistic egoism, obsessed with recreational sex, and mired in dog-eat-dog casino capitalism where businessmen are morally equivalent to drug dealers, all ruled over by the plutocracy of Big Capital. I guess you’re getting dealt the kind of decadent films you deserve.

dalinian

[1] The 'We only use 10% of our brain' myth has been extensively debunked – for instance:

• Studies of brain damage: If 90% of the brain is normally unused, then damage to these areas should not impair performance. Instead, there is almost no area of the brain that can be damaged without loss of abilities. Even slight damage to small areas of the brain can have profound effects.

• Evolution: The brain is enormously costly to the rest of the body, in terms of oxygen and nutrient consumption. It can require up to twenty percent of the body's energy – more than any other organ – despite making up only 2% of the human body by weight. If 90% of it were unnecessary, there would be a large survival advantage to humans with smaller, more efficient brains. If this were true, the process of natural selection would have eliminated the inefficient brains. By the same token, it is also highly unlikely that a brain with so much redundant matter would have evolved in the first place.

• Brain imaging: Technologies such as Positron Emission Tomography (PET) and functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) allow the activity of the living brain to be monitored. They reveal that even during sleep, all parts of the brain show some level of activity. Only in the case of serious damage does a brain have "silent" areas.

• Localization of function: Rather than acting as a single mass, the brain has distinct regions for different kinds of information processing. Decades of research have gone into mapping functions onto areas of the brain, and no function-less areas have been found.

• Microstructural analysis: In the single-unit recording technique, researchers insert a tiny electrode into the brain to monitor the activity of a single cell. If 90% of cells were unused, then this technique would have revealed that.

• Metabolic studies: Another scientific technique involves studying the take-up of radioactively labelled 2-deoxyglucose molecules by the brain. If 90 percent of the brain were inactive, then those inactive cells would show up as blank areas in a radiograph of the brain. Again, there is no such result.

• Neural disease: Brain cells that are not used have a tendency to degenerate. Hence if 90% of the brain were inactive, autopsy of adult brains would reveal large-scale degeneration.

~ Neuroscientist Barry Beyerstein, quoted in ‘10% of brain myth’, Wikipedia
» http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10%25_of_brain_myth

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I agree that the movie did stretch things a little bit for cinematic effectSource:Limitless Reviewhttp://moviereviews.noskram.com/2011/10/limitless-review

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wow. you have no life. i feel sorry for you. sounds like you could use some nzt..

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This film is fiction. Most people these days need a little dose of imagination. I'm sorry the film isn't some remake of a movie that was remade a decade ago. . . .

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Problem with this is that the idea is we only use 10% of the brain's *potential*, not 10% of the actual physical area of the brain. I've never understood how or why people confuse the two.

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Dalinian, lighten up and you will enjoy more movies. But if you insist on butting heads with the science of a movie to show plot holes, you need to do more than look up a couple wikipedia articles.

Here's a little snippet from that very same wikipedia article you chose to leave out:
"Although parts of the brain have broadly understood functions, many mysteries remain about how brain cells (i.e., neurons and glia) work together to produce complex behaviors and disorders. Perhaps the broadest, most mysterious question is how diverse regions of the brain collaborate to form conscious experiences. So far, there is no evidence that there is one site for consciousness, which leads experts to believe that it is truly a collective neural effort. Therefore, as with James's idea that humans have untapped cognitive potential, it also is fair to say that a large fraction of questions about the brain have not been fully answered."

The point here is that human cognitive potential is not well understood. You can't simply assess potential based on the "percentage" of the brain used. Think about writing a computer program based on a library of functions. If a write a program that simply calls all the functions with no coherence, am I writing the "smartest" program? Likewise with the brain. It is not just what portions are accessed, but how they are put together. The last part is not well understood (per the wikipedia text above).

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What a boring thread*

*This post was generated using less than 0.01% of my brain.

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First of all this is a fictional world, so the real world doesn't define what these character's believe. Secondly, the premise is about the drug enhancing tthe intelligence of it's user it's not about proving whehter an average drug dealer's words are scientifically sound. The drug dealer is trying to get his dumb ex-brother-in-law interested in trying the drug so he'll get hooked on it.

It isn't a fatally flawed plothole because whether the number of human brain useage is 10%, 50% or 80% doesn't matter to the plot. The point of the plot is that the drug enhances brain useage to the extreme and for that reason tpeople get hooked on it and taking the drug makes the guy puts himself and others in harm's way.

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TL/DR

Living well is the best revenge.

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Ahhhh OP has me so annoyed! It seems like only one person responding to this thread understands the whole "myth" (by hmelanso

Problem with this is that the idea is we only use 10% of the brain's *potential*, not 10% of the actual physical area of the brain. I've never understood how or why people confuse the two.
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Most people only use an estimasted 10% of their brains abilities (or energy or however you wish to think about it). It never has meant part of your brain is sitting around doing nothing, the whole brain is still working. (and to the 2nd year radiology student.... I sure hope you aren't planning on being a radiology technician or whatever in Canada, basic terminology seems to confound you)

Think of it this way, its like if someone said you are usually only using 10% if your body's potentian. Even though you are using your whole body, you are only using 15% of your energy sitting on your ass checking IMDB forums, 25% walking around the block, 40% going for a jog, and 60% going for an all out run. Different factors can help you use more 'body power'.

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