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So why does Furiosa hate Immortan Joe so much?

posted 8 months ago by TandyMan (11338)
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I noticed this watching, and it was pointed out by either Red Letter Media or the Hard Cut crew how Joe really does Furiosa a series of solids and treats her as nothing but good. Pretty much saves her from the abomination that is Dementus. So why does she hate him so much come Fury Road? Where's that even coming from? And why does she reuse the "Remember Me?" line she used with Dementus in this movie? That's literally the one caveat of information I was looking for in this movie. The significance of that line at the end of Fury Road. And we got bupkis. Are we left to assume this is just some damaged woman living perpetual PTSD? Endlessly murdering men and living out her torment with Dementus over and over again?

[–] DavidM (908) 8 months ago

You are right, this movie fails in pointing why Furiosa hates Inmortan, because, for what little we see, he was nice with her. Other reason Furiosa fails, and IS sad :S

[–] fzane (1189) 8 months ago

just like real life. when you help a woman, she resents you.

[–] rateater (10241) 8 months ago

i thought this too when i saw the movie. before this movie i figured joe took furiosa from the citadel as a child, most likely gave her her name, and raised her possibly as a wife until she proved she could do more and/or lost her arm.

maybe she hated him because how he treated his wives. he had to have raped her or something.

[–] TandyMan (11338) 8 months ago

It was always my impression that Furiosa was once one of Joe's wives. Hence, why she cared about the wives.

[–] FilmBuff (7434) 8 months ago

Might it be because he bought her from Dementus and added her to his harem? One can infer that a child may grow up to hold a bit of a grudge against the man who repeatedly raped her as a child.

[–] DavidM (908) 8 months ago

But Inmortan never raped her, she escaped the first night, so it doesn't have sense She hates him so much, neither she cared about the wives when there were a looot of people (men, women and children) in much worse conditions in the Citadel.

[–] FilmBuff (7434) 8 months ago

It's unclear how long she was in the harem, but it's inferred that bad stuff happened to her while there. And even if she escaped before he did anything to her, it doesn't change the fact that he had a collection of women locked in a room for his pleasure. That's reason enough to hate him.

[–] DavidM (908) 8 months ago

What? They had a privileged Life fir god's sake. I am pretty sure they prefered to be there than in the power levels of the Citadel.

Anyway, the film fails miserably in showing why She hated Inmortan, not showing any rape, any torture, nothing, just him saving her from Dementius.

[–] FilmBuff (7434) 8 months ago

I thought it established a very clear reason for her hatred of him. He was a murdering, raping tyrant with an army of brainwashed children committing suicide at his behest who enslaved thousands. He had all the food and water he needed and more, and let everyone else suffer and die. He purchased Furiosa when she was a child with the intention of raping her, and kept a room full of women on call to be raped when he felt the desire. I'd say he's awful.

[–] DavidM (908) 8 months ago

You are seeing It with the eyes of our society. In a postapocalyptic society the wives were privileged, and It should have been inmortan who kidnapped furiosa and killed her mother so She had a reason to hates him, nor a new mediocre villain we know nothing about.

[–] FilmBuff (7434) 8 months ago

Well, if your idea of privileged is being locked in a room waiting for a fat grotesque man like Immortan to rape you, then sure, he's a hero.

[–] DavidM (908) 8 months ago

Ask them to choose between that or living in the low part of the Citadel, I am pretty sure what they would answer. Don't forget it's a truly shitty world for everyone.

Anyway, I also don't understand why Furiosa choose to carry the wives to the Green Place instead of any of the people non privileged of the Citadel, people she had more connection with (as she had been living with them for years). Other of the nonsenses of the film.

[–] aavfreak (3386) 8 months ago

Yes, this was seen clearly in the scene where one of the breeders gave birth to her third deformed child. She was told that she had three chances, then she was out. Her distress over being removed from that privileged group was obvious.

[–] DavidM (908) 8 months ago

You say it seriously or ironically? I don't remember the scene hehe

[–] aavfreak (3386) 8 months ago

Seriously. I recall it clearly.

[–] redban (6770) 8 months ago

In the 2015 movie, she’s one of his high ranking generals. This movie wanted to show how and why he came to give her such an esteemed position in his unit

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[–] UncleRuckis (2637) 8 months ago

How does acquiring someone as a sex slave and brood mare, count as being nice?

Joe is a damned cult leader who'd happily sacrifice anyone under him! I'd likely want his dusty ass dead too!

[–] DavidM (908) 8 months ago

But in the context of the Wasteland he gives a good life to his wifes. In fact, Furiosa talks for the first time in years in his presence, almost begging him to save her from Dementus.

Was Inmortan a tyrant? Yes. Does this film show succesfully why Furiosa hates him? No.

[–] UncleRuckis (2637) 8 months ago

A life so good that they risked death in the wasteland rather than be raped by him repeatedly. Somebody give that man his humanitarian of the year award!

Aside from all that, she was also one of his malnourished, unwashed child soldiers for years and years. Even after she rose the ranks to become one of his elite, she likely saw this maniac do more than enough to despise him, though again, the raping would be plenty for most.

It's like watching Walking Dead season 5 and wondering why anyone in Neegan's camp might dislike him despite the food and fences!

[–] DavidM (908) 8 months ago

I said it's a tyrant and he deserved to die, but this film (Furiosa) fails to show it.