I love the original, but I also really dig the remake.
The reason I don't understand why people hate it is because it's the same damn movie. Other than a few changes, it's pretty the original but with modern special effects. So if you love the original, there's no real reason to hate this one.
Before I'd watched only Nightmare sequels and Freddy vs. Jason, actually watched the first 2 movies after watching the remake recently. Remake has less likeable characters, the final 2 really. The first three killed were ones I actually cared for oddly enough.
The jock looking guy, Dean, kinda had stilted line readings, but I guess he was alright, Kris had some bad line readings, but I actually kinda cared for her character as the movie went on, and Green Day/Jesse kinda looked and acted like a prick, but then he became a semi decent guy.
Nancy and Quentin just kinda came off as really bored the entire movie. Sleepwalking through the movie really. So did Dead I guess. Can't really list off any other reasons why I dislike them, been about a week since I watched the movie.
The original 2 are incredibly damn cheesy to me. And the actress for Nancy was kind of bad, but you could tell she was trying and I cared for her. Been about a week since I watched them too, so I can't remember much else beyond Johnny Depp's character being pretty odd, but cool.
The deaths in the first one were weird. With the kinda happening in reality, like with Freddy and the sheet or the bed scene. Though I don't think we don't get the aftermath of that, unless what happened in the dream scene actually happened in reality, then... holy crap.
Probably because I've watched other Nightmare movies, I still have a bias to the original. I think I ought to watch the third and fourth movies to find out when he starts having ridiculous fun with the kills. And the new Freddy couldn't seem to decide whether he wanted to be serious or a bit comical. Though, I guess the main out of character joke was around Nancy, his favourite. So maybe he was saving it for her.
I guess the characters that I just can't care for keep me from liking the remake. And the original is cheesy, but it had more likeable characters, but a ridiculously cheesy ending that the remake sort of improved on, but it didn't stop me from laughing at the ridiculousness of both though.
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I'm sorry but no, it's nothing like the original.
Let's face facts, the effects in the remake are horrible. The makeup had to be ehnanced by CGI and it looks like crap, he looked like a melted doll. The dream sequences were so obviously CGI that it hurt but the worst offender of them all is the wall scene, I'm sorry but my old PS1 games had better effects. The original created the terrifying image of Freddy poking through the wall using spandex and some creative lighting and it's a great image... the remake CGI'd Freddy to the point where he looked like the Genie from Aladdin on crack.
The acting throughout is just bad, there was no one I liked and no one had any intelligence. Jackie Earl might be a good actor, but he wasn't meant to be Freddy. There's nothing about it that worked acting wise and every time someone opened their mouth, I wanted to plug their noiseholes with a sock to shut them up.
But the part that upset me the most was the stupid ways they did the nightmares. In the original, and in pretty much all of the sequels, you never really knew when the dreams would start. It was subtle, there was a natural progression and that made it more horrifying when they began because there was no warning. In the remake, I was literally able to go "Dream begins now" with pin point accuracy and it removed every single potential scare from the movie... which is good, because the only scares that were there were jump scares.
I'm sorry, as a huge fan of the original, the remake is an absolutely abysmal movie and I hope they never do a sequel because clearly they've lost the magic touch the original 7 movies had.
The original may have maintained the ability to keep audiences guessing if it were a dream or reality, but the sequels pretty much dropped that aspect to insert cool looking visuals. The original had the benefit of being able to mess with the audience because no one knew what to except. From the first movie on its super easy to tell when they are dreaming.
They did pinpoint the dream sequences immediately in the remake, I will give you that. But the way they did it was pretty awesome to me. The scene with Kriss in the classroom and everything turning to ash was awesome. As was the pharmacy scene with Nancy, cutting back and forth with reality and the dream. The wall scene def sucked ass, no excuse for that.
As for bad acting, the originals acting, outside of Robert and Nancys Dad was pretty damn bad. Nancy in the original was acted very poorly if you are honest, but amazingly you still cared for her despite that which was pretty cool and negated some of the bad acting.
The original did have a magic touch, as did New Nightmare and even Dream Warriors. Even part 2. But parts 4-6 were horrible and I dont see how people can say those movies were any better than the remake. They were nothing like the original 3. They literally stopped trying to be scary for crazy dreamscapes and getting Freddy more PC'ed.
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The original may have maintained the ability to keep audiences guessing if it were a dream or reality, but the sequels pretty much dropped that aspect to insert cool looking visuals. The original had the benefit of being able to mess with the audience because no one knew what to except. From the first movie on its super easy to tell when they are dreaming.
They did pinpoint the dream sequences immediately in the remake, I will give you that. But the way they did it was pretty awesome to me. The scene with Kriss in the classroom and everything turning to ash was awesome. As was the pharmacy scene with Nancy, cutting back and forth with reality and the dream. The wall scene def sucked ass, no excuse for that.
As for bad acting, the originals acting, outside of Robert and Nancys Dad was pretty damn bad. Nancy in the original was acted very poorly if you are honest, but amazingly you still cared for her despite that which was pretty cool and negated some of the bad acting.
The original did have a magic touch, as did New Nightmare and even Dream Warriors. Even part 2. But parts 4-6 were horrible and I dont see how people can say those movies were any better than the remake. They were nothing like the original 3. They literally stopped trying to be scary for crazy dreamscapes and getting Freddy more PC'ed.
I dont know how to single out posts like you did of mine so each paragraph I write is referring to each paragraph you wrote lol Thanks for the excellent replies as well. Nice to see on here.
The Tv dream in part 3. See, since you already know what the premise is, the second something like the TV acting weird lets you know its a dream. I mean you are expecting it. The time loop was excellent in part 4 but I stand by my earlier point that it was very easy to see when the dream started. The remake also tried this a few times like Kris hearing the dog and going outback. Even though nothing shows its a dream till Freddy pops up, you are sitting their expecting it. But I will admit that the sequels def tried to keep you guessing more than the remake.
Glad you agree about the pharmacy scenes. I will also agree that it ceased being scary as they continued to happen.
Yep, thats why I said that even though most of the acting was pretty bad in the original, you still felt for the kids which is saying something. The group in the remake did not even seem to be friends with each other. Hell when they mention Jesse died, Quentin and Nancy do not even react.
Yes Part 5 was VERY dark and the Gothic like visuals were great. However Freddy popping in terrible one liners at every opportunity totally clashed with the serious atmosphere and made the film EXTREMELY uneven. As Craven said in New Nightmare, which is my favorite because he takes New Line to task for watering down the franchise to make the movies an easier sale. Also known as Freddy mania. He was in music videos and was on lunch boxes. People cheered for him. This is a damn child killer/molester that people were rooting for. I dont have any saving graces for parts 4-6. I dont ever watch them. They are nothing like the first few. We will agree to disagree.
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All I did was copy your post, highlight the part i was referring too and hit the quote button, it put's little tags around the paragraph for the layout. I'm happy too, nice to have someone good to talk too about all this awesomeness :)
The Tv dream in part 3. See, since you already know what the premise is, the second something like the TV acting weird lets you know its a dream. I mean you are expecting it. The time loop was excellent in part 4 but I stand by my earlier point that it was very easy to see when the dream started. The remake also tried this a few times like Kris hearing the dog and going outback. Even though nothing shows its a dream till Freddy pops up, you are sitting their expecting it. But I will admit that the sequels def tried to keep you guessing more than the remake.
Yep, thats why I said that even though most of the acting was pretty bad in the original, you still felt for the kids which is saying something. The group in the remake did not even seem to be friends with each other. Hell when they mention Jesse died, Quentin and Nancy do not even react.
Yes Part 5 was VERY dark and the Gothic like visuals were great. However Freddy popping in terrible one liners at every opportunity totally clashed with the serious atmosphere and made the film EXTREMELY uneven. As Craven said in New Nightmare, which is my favorite because he takes New Line to task for watering down the franchise to make the movies an easier sale. Also known as Freddy mania. He was in music videos and was on lunch boxes. People cheered for him. This is a damn child killer/molester that people were rooting for. I dont have any saving graces for parts 4-6. I dont ever watch them. They are nothing like the first few. We will agree to disagree.
Why would having an impostor ANOES be a good thing? Since you say its the same movie.
shareYup, this remake is one of the few decent horror remakes out there. I love new Freddy!
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Other than a few changes, it's pretty *much* the original but with modern special effects.
The bigger issue isn't that it as the 'same' so much as it was a hollowed out copy. It looks similar on the outside. It has the characters, the plot points, the kills. But it lacked the substance. The acting in the original was madicore, but there were solid points and characters that were trying to be conveyed, and that resonated with the audiences. There were themes and questions, and morals that weren't really tackled by other films.
The only purpose of the remake was to get Freddy as much screen time as possible. It also tried to tackle an issue that frankly we've heard more than enough about. We know there are child molesters out in the world. It's a one-note plot thread that really isn't that compelling, especially given how they telegraph the truth of the 'twist' the entire time.
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The remake is just pointless visual junkfood.
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It's because of butthurt Robert Englund fanboys, I think they need to rewatch some of the older films to see that they aren't as great as they remember. The only good ones in that series were the ones directed by Wes Craven. Even the remake lives up to his original idea for how the Freddy Krueger character should be presented.
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