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Good movie... but ridiculous.


The Company Men is a good movie - great performances, strong writing, strong directing, etc... but it does push the bounds of reality to the near extreme.

Losing a job is bad for anyone regardless of your income class. You live according to your means and when your means are lost, your life loses it's crutches and comes crashing down. But the rate in which Bobby Walker's (Ben Affleck) life goes into distress is unbelievable.

Most stable households put savings aside and one would assume that the bigger the income, the bigger the savings. He likely had stock options, definitely had a mortgage, and even had his wife working as a nurse after he was fired. It is completely implausible that so shortly after the end of his severance, they were forced to sell their house (in a crashed economy and real estate market) and that Bobby had to work for his brother-in-law as a carpenter. I mean, I understand the message, but come on... laying it on a little thick?

My mother was part of the big downsizing period of the early-90's and took years to recover, all while raising 3 children as a single parent in the suburbs. Did we have to make cuts? Yes. Did we have to sell our house? Definitely not. John Wells, the writer and director, is certainly not writing from experience. The whole situation, and the plight of the characters, would be more believable if they were earning middle-class income, and lived more paycheque-to-paycheque.

The funniest part is that this movie spent $15 million and earned $4.37 mil at the box office. So even with all the morals and messages, they spent millions on their solid cast and locations, when they could have spent a fraction and got the same reviews/acclaim. Yikes.

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There is nothing ridiculous about this movie. It totally hits home with me. I have been living it for 4 years. As a woman in her late 50s, successful sales executive, no one will hire me. Ben Afflect was 37 years old, and lucky to have a brother-in-law that would hire him.

Employers look at my resume, which is very good which mean "Over qualified". That translates to too old and made too much money. I am also an insulin dependent diabetic. Another job killer.

As far as over living your limits, I put every spare dime into my company 401K, and had up to 7 figures planned for retirement at 50 years old. Unfortunately, I worked for MCI, then WCOM. Lost every dime of my pension (still fighting that one) and all of my 401K when WCOM crashed. Everything gone in a weekend. And I can name two executives that did commit suicide.

I can't get a job at Wal-Mart, Macy's, and there are thousands of applications for 1 position that opens up in my industry. And they don't want 57 year olds on insulin. Oh and disability doesn't agree.

So before you judge get in this living hell I am in. I paid the max in taxes, put money away for the future in my company, and worked 80 - 100 hours a week to keep my job. And you know the sad thing, there are hundreds I worked with in the same situation. I'm no martyr. Trust me. I've beat the streets and begged for work. Paid off my home, have no credit cards, and my only debt is utilities and medical bills. And I'm still not making it. Oh, I bought a small house for $54K which it took 30 years to pay off.

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>>So before you judge get in this living hell I am in.

Another story that seems to not "get" the OP's post. For a successful career woman you obviously did not comprehend the post. You probably saw the subject head and got all heated up.

And you can't find a job in retail? That's kinda hard to believe.

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I don't think it's that ridiculous at all. You underestimate the way a lot of people that are earning a lot are actually still overspending. Ben Affleck's character had a great job, and yes you would assume he is saving enough. Yet a lot of people in this kind of position simply don't count on suddenly being out of a job. So they buy or lease that Porsche that they can't really afford and all of those other things. I think one of the best quotes is something his wife says about them spending 600 dollars on dry cleaning (and something else I forgot) alone every month. Add all these "little expenses" up and it's not that strange that when the income isn't there anymore, you get into trouble really fast.

These are high paid people but they still live above their standard. And I think the movie was also very right about how when these people get fired and have to look for another job, their experience counts for almost nothing and they have to compete with much younger people willing to work ridiculous hours for much less pay.

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Why is Tommy Lee sleeping with Maria Bello ridiculous? They were having an affair... not ridiculous. If anything it's typical.

The kid wanted to help his dad! That's why he sold his XBOX - if your child wants to contribute in helping out, you should let them do that so they can feel like they are doing something worthwhile.

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What stupid propaganda SupR G posted. Obviously he knows nothing about American history or the modern economy.



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You're using the word propaganda in the wrong context.

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@OP

I pretty much agree with you. Bobby came across like an over indulgent spoiled brat, and that in itself made it very difficult to sympathetically relate to him, and to the movie. All great movies don't have to be about poor people, but this movie just really missed the mark, IMO.

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You are delusional if you think that this character doesn't represent many people. He was proud and felt that he deserved more just like many people in upper middle class do these days. I live in a suburb filled with people like him, yes they are spoiled rotten, but they are real. Many of these people are in debt up to their eyeballs and quite honestly I don't think you could live the way he did only making 130 grand a year, even with credit card debt. I know people who make way more and live the same way and are in serious debt.

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The average household is about 50k in credit card debt. What savings exactly are you talking about? If your family was able to put money aside that doesn't mean everybody else did. Making a lot of money doesn't mean you are saving a lot. A lot of people spend more than they earn and it doesn't matter how much they earn they always end up living beyond their means.

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the Affleck Happy Ending is BS! There are still tons of people, mostly over-qualified, looking for jobs in the messed up economy! You got older people taking jobs that usually go to the youth!

This country is way messed up in terms of the types of jobs and positions that MBA's are looking for! When are college kids going to learn that there are NO JOBS after you graduate! Colleges are businesses NOT career-providers!

Movie was well-acted but it wasn't indicative of the very real and much worse shape this country is in!

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120K isn't all that much unless his bonus is another 100k. He doesn't even qualify for the 1%. So laying it on a little thick? I think not.

And I guess most households are not stable because most either do not or cannot put savings aside. Most people with big incomes live up to those incomes and live the lifestyle, just as Ben Affleck's character did, while others cannot afford to put aside extra money for whatever reason: kids in college, medical expenses, supporting other less fortunate family members, etc..



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