Destroyed Mona Lisa was funny?
This brought to you by the man that made Luke Skywalker drink tit milk from a sea mammal. GREAT job Rian Johnson.
shareThis brought to you by the man that made Luke Skywalker drink tit milk from a sea mammal. GREAT job Rian Johnson.
shareI think that was up to you. Was it funny?
shareI personally did not find it funny. Mona Lisa is priceless art. The notion of it being destroyed is just not amusing or funny. The film is saying it is so smart and clever, almost above Mona Lisa, it is so clever. That is sad.
shareIt was simply a satirical scene exhibiting how modern stupid humans can end up destroying valuable work of their ancestors. Nothing funny, in fact an illustration of hopelessness of the over-confident system.
Miles claimed it was the Mona Lisa, why would anyone believe him?
Edited to add; The painting that was destroyed was clearly painted on canvas or other cloth. The film depicted the flames causing the canvas to peel away and burn. There were copies of the Mona Lisa painted on canvas, but the original that hangs in the Louvre is painted on wood. So the painting that burns in Miles house was not the original.
I liked this movie, but no matter how angry I get, I could never destroy the Mona Lisa
shareCrazy woke stuff. Pretentious directors and creative types get off on taking down insitutions. Great that we have a series of mysteries from round-head Rian Johnson that will surpass Mona Lisa. Just frivolous nonsense.
shareEh, I wouldn't read that much into it. Just because you dislike something doesn't mean it's "woke." Remember this movie is fiction. The Mona Lisa was not ACTUALLY destroyed. There are plenty of action movies where some big monument gets destroyed like The Statue Of Liberty, is that woke too?
Plus, I believe she did it so that ultimately, he would be left with nothing. It was less about destroying the painting itself and more about destroying the villain because of the money that it's worth.
Mona Lisa was a metaphor for the patriarchy.
In this movie, we see Edward Norton and Drax the Destroyer, the only 2 hetero males non-black, plotting, killing and taking advantage of all the others.
Edward Norton (white hetero male) takes advantage of Agatha (woman), of the Hamilton villain (black), of Andi (black woman).
Drax the Destroyer takes advantage of Whiskey (woman).
They plot between them to continue using the minorities and oppressed to their advantage, to maintain the status quo and the patriarchy.
The Mona Lisa is just the token, the trophy that represents this. It's an historical artefact, made in ancient times where the patriarch was even more rampant.
At the end, Edward Norton seems to go off unscathed. He keeps his status quo and the minorities look down and accept their fate.
However, the person with the most minority credit (Andi, for she is black and a woman), starts a revolution. She convinces the other minorities to stand up to the patriachy. They agree and go along with it, destroying Mona Lisa in the way.
Talking about what actually happened, it seems ridiculous that they would celebrate destroying an historical artefact like Mona Lisa just for a money vendetta. And the movie painted this in a good light... As to say "you go girl, you destroy Mona Lisa to show you won't stand up for this s***".
No matter how right she was because he killed her sister, Mona Lisa has nothing to do with it, and is way above your personal vendetta against other people. This is the equivalent of throwing tomato soup into a famous painting to protest against oil exploration.
Good analysis.
shareThat is a hell of an explanation and really well said. Utlimately, you are giving filmakers way too much credit. They just thought they are above the Mona Lisa and could not wait to trash it. Kinda sad
shareHmmm. Not a bad theory. Given who the director is, I don't think it's impossible, but I don't think he was even intending that or putting that much thought into it. I believe there was probably some sort of small agenda thrown in, just like the last movie, however this time I don't think it's as clear. I think some of your points are valid, but not all of them. Are you just saying all that because people who are minorities are in those roles or is it beyond that? Of course you'd say it's more than just minorities in the role, but is it really? Does it bother you so you try to find reasons to not be okay with it?
With that said, I think if the message is truly what you say it is, then I disagree with the themes of the movie. Even if I dislike certain parts about it, I still enjoyed the story for the most part. I watched it with an open mind and did find plenty of flaws. It was in the back of my mind that the only villain was a white man, so it is questionable. It isn't something that automatically bothers me, since white males have typically been villains in movies way before the woke era. I certainly think the problems you point out are valid and something to be aware of, but I personally wouldn't stretch my views that far myself.
Well, if you actually thought it was the Mona Lisa. I think they were all fools to believe he could get the painting on loan from the museum.
shareThe movie clearly means that he has the means to do it and was able to do it. In this reality, it is the truth.
shareHis fortune was built on lies and manipulating people who were smarter than he was. I think he was lying about the Mona Lisa. Unless the director has something to say, then I guess we just have to speculate.
shareYeah... Then why did he become so distressed when the Mona Lisa was being burned?
There is no evidence, no realistic argument, no real reason to even speculate the theory you are proposing.
That's like saying "perhaps all of this was just a dream in the mind of Thanos and this is part of the MCU. You cannot say it isn't until the director denies it."
You make a good point.
But until we see his reaction to the painting burning up, what is easier to believe? That he paid enough money to borrow it or that he just has a clever forgery hanging in his house?
Edited to add; The painting that was destroyed was clearly painted on canvas or other cloth. The film depicted the flames causing the canvas to peel away and burn. There were copies of the Mona Lisa painted on canvas, but the original that hangs in the Louvre is painted on wood. So the painting that burns in Miles house was not the original.
But we did see his reaction to the painting burning up so it is irrelevant what was easier to believe because after the film is is clear that it was supposed to be the real painting.
shareThe word woke has truly lost all meaning (not that it had any to begin with). Go outside and touch some grass, dude.
shareMiles claimed it was the Mona Lisa, why would anyone believe him?
Edited to add; The painting that was destroyed was clearly painted on canvas or other cloth. The film depicted the flames causing the canvas to peel away and burn. There were copies of the Mona Lisa painted on canvas, but the original that hangs in the Louvre is painted on wood. So the painting that burns in Miles house was not the original.
Good point.
shareBecause he does not lie about things but about himself. His false claims were about things and ideas that he got credit for like the creation of the boxes, the details of the mystery weekend or the idea of the Alpha company.
He does not lie about things that show off how much money he has like the island, the car or the Glass Onion.
Miles is 100% about him and his reputation. Both taking credit for the ideas of others and showing off what his money (money he has acquired by taking credit for the ideas of others) can buy are used to boost his reputation.
So with this in mind I do believe his claim that is the real "Mona Lisa". I believe he made the arrangements to have the "Mona Lisa" in his house on the island because it is something his money could buy.
I was more peeved about the fate of the donkey in The Banshees of Inishrin than this. Mona’s fine. She’s at the Louvre encased in 10,000 layers of flameproof glass. Jk, I have no idea what she is encased in.
shareEven seeing a replica of some fucking panting offends you. My God, you people are the real snowflakes.
shareGreat Job Rian Johnson Indeed the Mona Lisa is overrated anyway The Great Wave off Kanagawa By Hokusai is the greatest painting ever. also, Luke Skywalker was a farmer prior to him being a Jedi Master also he Came Through at End Thanks To Rey(Skywalker) and Master Yoda at the Battle Of Crait
shareThe painting that was destroyed was clearly painted on canvas or other cloth. The film depicted the flames causing the canvas to peel away and burn.
There were copies of the Mona Lisa painted on canvas, but the original that hangs in the Louvre is painted on wood. So the painting that burns in Miles house was not the original.