The Ending
I have never felt this robbed in my life. It's probably just me, but the ending is pretty freaking outrageous. Let me know if you guys liked the twist or not. Great movie til the end for me.
shareI have never felt this robbed in my life. It's probably just me, but the ending is pretty freaking outrageous. Let me know if you guys liked the twist or not. Great movie til the end for me.
shareHated the ending. Didn't add up. It's like the director wandered in drunk one day with an idea for a twist ending.
I'm all for going against the grain and trying something new, but this was laughable. Different and good are far from synonymous.
i agree one of the most retarded endings ever. Seing how the other victims were under trauma, she went off to be become a cop with no psychological damage or trauma from her past is just plain retarded. I felt like a stone felt off me after seing this twist, has to be one of the worst ones ever in a movie. The movie was decent till the ending but never had anything that distinguish it from other serial killer movies. I like Cusack movies theyre all normally pretty solid but this is def one of his worse ones, although he is still the only thing that kept this movie afloat imo
Jennifer Carpenter got more tolerable over the seasons in Dexter due to other good actors on the show, but she herself is just unbearable in mostof the things she appear in. The only thing she seem to be able to do as a actor is playing hysterical and panicky with bizarre choke motions.
Can't believe so many people didn't see it coming a mile away. I actually thought ;no it's too late in the story for that kind of reveal so it wont be her even though she has been acting strange throughout the movie. Oh no =, wait, I was right. Load of rubbish' Got to say though it wasn't that that spoiled this movie for me it was that not a single charcater in this mean spirited tale inspired any sympathy. The only semi-likable character doesn't even make it to the end.
shareNathead I am with you I just saw this on Netflix and she acted very odd. Almost trying to discourage him a lot of times while he was working on the case. I thought she was talking about the transsexual was very weird for a cop working on a case about prostitutes missing. Or her talking about someone one just disappeared and no one came. To infer why make a big deal out of these prostitutes. Like why do you care about them.
Also the not having a child story line. Who cares, they made too big a thing out of it. She's 30 and doesn't have any kids, which his wife mentions. Now I did not connect the dots until I saw the kidnapper was using the girls to have babies. That is why she was so callous about the transsexual.
That is why she was so callous about the Transsexual, and very ambivalent about the case. That is how they got the DMV records. You knew it had to be someone on the police, so it had to be her, because the script didn't have enough bones to introduce us to other people working with them and make them a little part of the story, so we might suspect them. To me the biggest twist was him getting killed. Americans do not like to see that in movies. I just knew he had a vest on and was going to live
The ending to this movie enraged me. It was like all that work and build up and all the characters disappear and one character becomes someone we didn't know about at all. Ridiculous.
sharei just watched this film and wished i had'nt now i am so annoyed with the ending, i hate films with a twist in it and i hate when bad guys get away with it, and i never want to watch this film again
shareThe twist was definitely a shocker for me! But what was with the based on Actual Events notice. That was bs, right?
shareIt wasn't all bad but I did expect more with this cast and the serial killer/psycho killer-story plot is usually very intriguing to me. I did like the twist ending but it just felt rushed. I just wanted to know more what Kelsey went through, he must have done some serious brainwashing if she made it through the academy and all.
Seems they tried to do a Se7en but ended up with... well not a seven.
Eat me, don't bite me!
The film was going ok until his female partner ruined everything. Terrible
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I was angered at the ending, too. I was willing to accept the twist, that the cop was one of "daddy's girls", but to have killed Cusack off and have her get away scot-free with 3 babies, that's just wrong. And when you actually think about the "twist", it's ridiculous that such a traumatized slave-woman would be able to make it in the police force, all the way to detective, and even get on the same casework Cusack is on, just so she can throw him off the scent? Why couldn't they just let Cusack kill her with the gun he was reaching for on his leg? That would have been fine by me.
shareI was a bit surprised by the ending.
But I've been going over it in my head, and I've been building a different picture.
Notice how we never see Carl with the babies. And when we finally do meet them, it's a very sterile environment. It's like he's following these "family" rules, but he doesn't really much more together than his victims.
Carpenter was pretty manipulative. Now I've been thinking - what if she did most of the brainwashing on Carl? They met up years ago, she convinced him they needed a family, but she was infertile. She convinced him to find hookers and get some babies coming through.
Lo and behold, she doesn't seem to care when Carl gets shot, just grabs her babies and goes, and the very night that the (3rd? more more) baby is born.
Also to answer other peoples questions, she hadn't called the disturbance in yet (she pretended to call it in remember?) so she had plenty of time to get babies down to the car.
But Carl had duct tape in his 'kidnap' bag when he first picked up Carpenter, so perhaps that rules my theory out.
Interesting theory! Except if she was such a master-manipulator, why would she need Carl at all? She could just adopt as many babies as she wanted legitimately.
Surely that is better than taking the babies of drug-addicted whores, right?
Why go through this awful process of allowing some man to rape and murder drug-addled prostitutes just to get their (probably unhealthy) babies?
As for having plenty of time to get the babies down to the car, that's interesting, because although we do see the cops bust in shortly after she walks down into the basement after killing Mike, we don't really know what time had passed after killing Mike before she descended the staircase. She could well have removed the babies first, and then went down into the basement.
Finally, I don't think Carl's character would allow Kelsey to control him that much; he was too dangerous and unpredictable. His M.O. is always violence and drugs to get what he wants, and when Kelsey met him, she had no idea he was a rapist-killer, but he knew he was, and yes, he had his "kit" on him.