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Now I remember

posted 3 years ago by R_Kane (15828)
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I have Paramount+, so I watched this for “free” because I’ve read the discussions here. I remembered, in the first 5 minutes, why I don’t like the Scream series. The movie is smugly self-referential and convoluted, with characters using words they are too young to know, and speaking too fast and too articulately to be anywhere within a parsec of being plausible (hello, Dawson and his fucking Creek). It’s wearisome. Like Limitless, it’s the kind of movie that makes dullards feel smart. “Hey, I GET it!” What you in fact “get” is manipulated.

Not for nothing: none of the original cast looks good, “(“none” is singular; look it up) not that they ever appealed to me. A fundamental problem with the Scream series is that it was predicted on TV actors, save for Drew Barrymore, who actually has depth and talent. Courtney Cox, who got her start in a fucking Bruce Springsteen music video back when MTV still played music, has enough plastic in her face to pass for a bargain-basement Barbie doll.

The film supposes its audience has no experience with being a hospital patient. A hospital is like Vegas and New York: it NEVER sleeps. There is NO SUCH THING as dark hallways and ZERO staffing in any US hospital. Maybe in Mexico or in the movie, but not in Real World USA. But, hey, where’s the fun in that? Hospitals have saved my life 2 times, so far, so this is a real sore point in verisimilitude for me.

I was so glad to see David Arquette’s character die in such a humiliating and poignant manner. I never liked him. I REALLY hope this is the final nail in the Scream greedy teet-milking coffin.

However, I love his real-life sisters, who are total cum dumpsters.

Question: why is Ghostface always a tech savant who can clone a cell phone on the fly and find the login and password for home security systems? Because the narrative demands it. There is no reasonable explanation.

“How can fandom be toxic?!” Maybe because fandom in predicated on immature, undeveloped prefrontal cortex-generated feelings that celebrate violence and stupidity. That’s how.

“This wasn’t some bullshit, cash-in, run-of-the-mill sequel.” That’s EXACTLY what this was.

Neve Campbell was 47 years old when this movie was made. Courtney Cox was 52 years old when this movie was made. That is too fucking old. Time for this to die.

I mean, Geez.

[–] bobbydallas (8682) 3 years ago

really should've ended at 3

part 4 was just stupid. a trilogy would've been way better

[–] DoctorThirteen (15308) 3 years ago

Definitely. I haven't seen 5, but I didn't like 4. I look on the original three as a trilogy.

[–] bobbydallas (8682) 3 years ago

part 3 is a bit underrated.. i find killing Cotton off was great
the overall "silly" atmosphere made the film kinda fresh etc

i just couldn't get on board with 4 at all, and 5 is just a disaster
: (

[–] Underdog_73 (770) 3 years ago

Did he really clone the phone though? They were working together. He could have simply been using her phone. And the first attack was her. She was using her own phone claiming to be someone else who cloned it.

[–] [email protected] (6247) 3 years ago

The "dark and deserted" hospital at night trope REALLY gets to me too.

To be fair to the Scream series, they do the same thing in every horror movie when the survivor is brought into the hospital. Aside from the silliness of no staff, there seem to be no other patients either. Characters are screaming, throwing things, firing guns and not one patient leans on the call bell to ask in alarm, "WHAT the bleep is going on in the next room?"

[–] R_Kane (15828) 3 years ago

Thank you for pointing that out. One of the many stupidities of horror set in functioning (as opposed to “decommissioned”) hospitals is that all patients other than the protagonist are catatonic, HEAVILY medicated, or both. (Funny anecdote:I had knee surgery a bit over 3 years ago, 1 of several surgeries I’ve had; so I know about morphine). Post-op, the staff wheeled a machine into my room that could dispense morphine at my demand. All I had to do was to press a button. I have great respect for, and concern about, opioids. A half hour or so after delivering the dope apparatus to my private room, the hospital staff were asking, “Have you tried the morphine?” and seemed disappointed that I’d no need for it. This was the first time I’ve ever encountered health care pros encouraging opioid use! It could make a hilarious scene in a hospital horror movie, just not in a Scream movie, which franchise is more dead than Disco, and not nearly as much fun.

I always enjoy hearing from you, pjpurple.

[–] [email protected] (6247) 3 years ago

I'm getting away from Scream, but I just had to tell you that your morphine dispenser anecdote reminded me of a funny story about a friend of my dad. His story was the OPPOSITE!

My dad and his friend George were lifelong pals even though they had a few differences, like George enjoyed some recreational drugs. He was in the hospital for gall bladder surgery and hooked up to a "dispenser". He didn't know that the machine only delivered doses at spaced intervals. You couldn't get one dose after another. George kept pushing the button constantly.

He told my dad that the nurses wondered what was up with all the button pushing!

I thought it was funny at the end of SCREAM when Tara asked the ambulance attendants, "Can you take me to a different hospital?" i.e. NOT a "movie hospital" that's dark, deserted and dangerous. lol