Really, he had sex with a 20 years old woman, a very mature woman who knew what was going on. Worst case scenario he betrayed his wife and he needs to get straight with her, but he didn't do anything wrong to the country, the sexual relationships of politicians shouldn't have be taken out of the personal context, even if the guy is a cheating bastard. The movie is amazing to expose the hipocrisy, the lines of Stephen saying to him something like "you can start wars, you can invade another countries and you can take soldiers to get killed, you just can't have sex with the intern" were amazing.
Well she said she was a teenager after she said she was 20 and Ryan whatever slept with her. Even if she was 20 she wasn't mature at all and that's why it seemed wrong. Mature people don't sleep with married men and not use protection. Only stupid people do that. She was so annoying I'm glad she off'd herself.
"Don't point that gun at him, he's an unpaid intern!"
He didn't do anything "wrong" in terms of legality, but I think an individual who cheats on his wife and gets a young girl pregnant (regardless of the consensual nature or her maturity in the matter) speaks to his character and morality- very big for a political candidate. I do think it is an interesting dichotomy in terms of what we accept as the voting public, but even though it essentially isn't our business, we deserve to know if our public officials/candidates have integrity.
In Europe, where most people have a mature and sensible understanding of sex it wouldn't matter if a politician had an affair with an adult intern or otherwise. In the US, any politician running for president having an affair risks political suicide. Like it or not Americans simply aren't rational about it. Sad to say, Americans are more apt to forgive political leaders who lie to them, and, start wars that result in the deaths and injury of thousands of Americans. Americans are simply irrational when it comes to sex. For Pete's sake, some Americans freak about public breast feeding, and many parents would more like object to their children viewing mock sex then mock killing. Let's face it: What could be more American then killing?
He was running a campaign based on integrity, trust and character. You overhear his speeches mentioning these themes. The race was tight and the intern bit would have probably been enough to kill his chances. It isn't stupid to assume that someone who would betray his own wife will also betray the public.
I can't believe there are people commenting on this thread saying its acceptable that he cheated on his wife. One question, would you find it acceptable if your partner cheated on you? Because of 'high libido' or 'they were in a position of power' to quote a few shamefully ridiculous excuses. Of course not.
The whole issue about him cheating is related commitment. He made a commitment to his wife by marrying her (perhaps seen by many as the biggest you can make), and then broke it to do something for himself. A voting public will see it that way. How can they trust a man to run a country if his own wife cannot trust him to be faithful? How can they trust him to honour the presidential vows if he cannot honour his wedding vows? How can they put their needs, wants, issues in the hands of a man who only wants to look out for himself?
He may not be that person, he may see it as a huge mistake and regret it. It may have been a moment of weakness. But it doesn't matter. The fact is he did it, and because he did people will distrust him, and expect him to be dishonourable or selfish again. We are, after all, defined by our actions.
Thinking back the moment that highlighted what kind of a person Morris was to me, was in the interview about the death penalty. He stated he opposed it, but if his wife was murdered he would kill the person that did it and would go to prison. Some may find that a reasonable reaction, however, if we put that reaction into the context of the whole conversation it reveals his true feelings and ideas. Essentially he is saying 'The morally right thing to do is (A), I believe in this so strongly that I will campaign to have (A) made law. BUT. If something happens to me, if I am affected, then I will not do (A) but whatever I want. Regardless of the consequences'.
This shows his real side, and why he cheated in the first place. He knows what the morally right decision to do is in a given situation and he will preach that decision to society. But if he himself had to make a decision, he would not take the one he knows is right but the one that's best for him, and he would not care of the repercussions. Some may agree with this, I don't.
Ironically what he said is also contradictory to the point he was making, if everyone did that if their wife/loved one/friend was murdered then we would essentially have the death penalty. Similarly he also says a 'Society' has to been seen to make the right choice, not the individual (or something like that). The key being society is made up of the individuals. If they don't make the right choice, and do what they want, then society would reflect the individual choices.
What a fantastic film this was, so many other things to talk about. It was brilliant.
si-baker, I agree with your analysis and also with your general statement of the quality of this film. It is one of the best films that I have seen for a long time.