The vicar tries everything in his power to protect his son, family, and a suicide risk in his congregation. We see the portrayal of the vicar differently. His primary motive, don't forget, is protecting his son from Janice wrongfully accusing Ben of paedophilia. Also, this might be a minor point, but he doesn't attack Janice. He tries to prevent her from leaving until they can talk and he can be assured she won't ruin his son's life. He doesn't push her down the stairs, either, as these circumstances are largely accident.
Now, if your complaint was about the scene's writing, I'd agree. I didn't like that scene, but mostly because it was contrived that Janice wouldn't take five minutes to talk sensibly, and that the vicar would bar her way so completely or wouldn't call an ambulance after she fell. But that's dummy plot writing, not an anti-white male PSA.
Even leaving the vicar aside, you've still left out everything else I said contrary to your point about the self-righteous journalist being called out on her smugness (you ignored that), Grief being likeable (ignored that), Dillon being a monster (ignored), Janice being manipulative and ignoring her long-time friend's pleas for help (ignored), and the other women on the show portrayed as mean (ignored).
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allaf (63)
2 years ago
Well of course I exaggerated a little bit, some non white characters can have flaws in the show.
But the general tone is very strong, the white man, is the enemy : he is either a weak pedo, a powerful rapist, a public misogynist harasser, a killer on death row, or a vicar sequestrating an innocent woman in his cellar (whatever you say sorry that's the facts).
But am sure it gets way worse after that episode, but I can't watch the rest, sorry am sick of it.
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Ace_Spade (9546)
2 years ago
I just disagree with your assessment. Grief is one of the protagonists, and although he has a horrible crime in his past, he also cops to it. The warden is a nice guy who wants Grief to do more good in the world and is bummed out that he's just accepting death. The vicar is, in my opinion, presented in a good light, just fighting rotten circumstances. And, again, white men aren't the only nasty people.
You could just as easily go through the female characters and find flaws. Again, Grief directly forces the reporter character into admitting she cares more for her lurid, gossipy stories than her friends, which is a pretty horrid revelation, and Janice is - in my opinion - a really nasty piece of work who won't hear her friend out, is fully prepared to ruin somebody's life on a misunderstanding (that she refuses to follow up on), and is generally so full of spite that at some point in the show I started to think of her as more of a villain than guys like Grief. Also, the vicar's wife is just as guilty as he is of kidnapping and holding Janice against her will.
An aggregate of the plotlines and character moments on the shows does not show a pattern of anti-male, anti-white propaganda.
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allaf (63)
2 years ago
Anyone reading this can just watch the first episode and judge for themselves.
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Ace_Spade (9546)
2 years ago
I think it might just be us reading this. Maybe UncleRuckis down there skimmed our back-and-forth.
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