MovieChat Forums > Devotee
Devotee (106)
Posts
Replies
<blockquote>What was the deal with the mother/daughter in the meta-plot? The main plot of the film was a story the mother told her kid.</blockquote>
I think it's backwards. I felt that the main plot of the film is the mother/daughter, while the "John and the Hole" plot is just a story that the mother is telling her daughter, like the "Charlie and the Spider" story, which is the first one suggested by the mother but the daughter didn't want that one. Similarly, there's a scene with Charles, the gardener, and a spider with a eerie semblance to the "The Scorpion and the Frog" fable, with a similar ending: Charles trust the spider and tells all its virtues but he finally gets bitten.
That would also explain why the "main plot" feels so surreal, too, with so many inconsistencies. A thirteen year old driving around town without anyone noticing. Knowing their parents' ATM PIN number, buying a big TV to play games with no one asking how he could pay for it, or how he got it home. The friend going to stay at home during the weekend without any sign of the parents being worried about him (he came and went in a bus). The tennis preparation for a big state event where he just kicks balls shot by a machine under the supervision of a not-so-professional looking trainer.
It all just feels off.
I would add another question. What was all that fuzz between the father and the mother with him asking "What happened with him?" or "What did you do him?" or something like that. It seemed to imply some kind of inappropriate interaction between her and John. Which, added to the weird flirting with Paula, his mother's 50 year old friend, is quite disturbing.
<blockquote>And nevermind HOW he got them down there, why didn't they wake up?!?!</blockquote>
He used the mother's medication to drug them. He even does a test before on Charles, the gardener, drugging the lemonade.
<blockquote>Pretty sure that he threw a lot of pillows soft stuff, threw bodies, set up like they are sleeping, took soft stuff, climbed up and took the ladder.</blockquote>
That's a good point. He does ask his sister <i>"how many pillows do we have?"</i> at one point.
<blockquote>That was a stupid scene with no other family member present.</blockquote>
There were NO other family members to be present, it is stated that Dr. Matheson did not have any relatives (other than the son).
The first investigator <i>suffered a heart attack while attending one of Silver's shows and the post-mortem concluded
the heart attack was the result of natural causes</i>. Sigourney’s character is said to have <i>a rare and long-standing vascular condition which could be the cause of her unexpected illness and sudden death</i>.
It seems a bit of a coincidence that both deaths were related to heart diseases. I wouldn't have thought twice about it until the last part of the movie, when Silver/his assistant sends a guy to beat up Dr. Buckley in the bathroom. After seeing the lengths they were capable to go, I'm not sure anymore if Silver himself (or his team) wouldn't cause the death of anyone who would get too close to expose him as fraud. Silver makes clear that they keep track of their <i>enemies</i> (even having access to their medical records -Dr. Matheson's son condition-) so if they knew that someone had heart problems it could be easy to fake a natural death that wouldn't be detected in a post-mortem.
7. It's a photo album of the men she had sex with. The first picture is her mother's boyfriend, the one who started all.
8. Not bad writing. We can assume his girlfriend (Sarah?) rejected him after he told her he vas HIV positive. After that, he might think/know that having another relationship will be difficult, unless it's someone who is as broken as him. Erica being infected too, she's a good candidate to be his "soulmate". In his crazy mind, it was an ideal ending, they could be together, he would take care of her, and she would be with him. But everything takes a bad turn when she tries to escape, and the mother committing suicide (possibly because she was infected because of Franki's blood transfusions and, of course, Erica's plan of infecting as many men as possible). At that point Franki had been rejected by Erica and she was now guilty not only of infecting him but also of his mother's suicide.
After Cecilia takes her final vows and loses consciousness (likely due to being drugged), she is taken to the underground lab where the procedure is carried out. In that room, there is an obstetric examination chair, and the equipment shown in the lab suggests that artificial insemination was performed there.
They tried it so hard to make it like it was Booby until the end. Baseballs falling around when the "unknown" killer was chasing Kathleen in the old house's cellar (Bobby was a pitcher) and the most obvious one, when everyone is strapped and at the table, when the killer goes for Evan he says "You're going to break the Internet", a reference to the beginning of the film where he brags about the fight with the other team's dude and saying that that "Shit would have broken the Internet" if it had been recorded. Only the people in the car at that moment could have known about what Evan said, and Bobby was there.
Did anyone notice that Iain Adair looks a lot like Davis McCardle? There's a picture of both Kenneth and Iain hanging at the bar where the eyes, nose and ear are extremely similar to Davis. I was wondering if he was his real father (instead of Kenneth), which would have been an extra sick plot twist for this episode.
View all replies >