This was supposed to be a huge deal.
Very divisive reviews, box office flop and snubbed practically across-the-board by the British and American Academy Awards.
shareIts not very good. 5/10 on a good day.
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That's how it goes sometimes.
shareThe trailer put me off every time, all the spark and no bark
sharelots of style - no story - lots of crappy characters
Basically, BS being advertised as being great
While I appreciate them putting money in the non-superhero genre film, they still haven't been able to solve the 'death of quality script writers in hollywood' syndrome.
I imagine hollywood will be jumping on the AI bandwagon, if it hasn't been on one for years already - lol - and you can expect more of the same BS in the years/decades to come. Everything will be like Avatar - a mishmash of old bits with great hope that the masses haven't seen the original and superior inspirations - lol
It's well worth seeing, particularly if you're into Hollywood history. Currently getting a 7.2 on IMDb.
shareI watched about an hour of it last night. I've got to say, I was offended by some of it, hahahaha. It was gross! And yes, agreed with the OP - this movie was on everyone's radar. You have Brad Pitt, Margot Robbie - written and directed by Damien Chazelle. Some big time people involved in this production. I'm going to give it another shot today. From what I have seen so far, even putting the grossness aside, I wasn't impressed.
shareDamien Chazelle is coming off a hot run of films. Whiplash is a masterpiece along with Oscar winning one, La La Land a Oscar Winner and First Man which was received well. Add in Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, set in Hollywood in 20's and 30's along been a 3 hour epic, it can't miss.
I loved the film, I think it's better then the critics and audience scores give it. But it's not a film for the masses, it's a cult film really. It's amazing that Chazelle even got this made to be honest even with Pitt and Robbie as leads. It will have it's fans and many in years to come will have it as one of the best films of the last few years, even now you see a lot of defenders for the film coming out. But it also will have detractors who think it's a piece of crap.
I'm surprised Robbie's performance, the score and Cinematography didn't get at least some award buzz. It was never going to be a multi award nominated film, it's way too flawed (especially in it's last 1 hour 30 mins) and just not a film that feels like a Academy Award winner. It was never going to be a big box office hit, as I said I loved it but looking it at it especially with it's debauch side (again how Chazelle got this made is amazing) and downbeat second half it just wasn't ever going to do big numbers.
I think it's a film that will have it's fans and supporters and will probably end up on Criterion Collection in a decade's time.
Ehhh. When I read you said it was the direct of Whiplash, I had a little bit of an aha moment. Didn't know him by name, though I'm sure I heard it when that movie came out. But I see similar themes and makes sense. Whiplash was entertaining enough, but it was a rather stupid plot scheme with unrealistic characters and contrived, over-the-top crap in so many ways. Wouldn't want to watch it a second time. Same for this one. Too much shock value, too much modern take on a past-time. He's a little like Baz Lurhman mixed with M. Night Shamalan gimmicks. (didn't see LaLa Land).
In fact, the party scene made me think of the Great Gatsby with a darker tone. The camera shots were very well done in that, I'll say.
I did enjoy the turns it too and the journey of Manny and some great camera work at times (other times like almost all movies today, the CGI/greenscreen is just too glaringly obvious vs. movies on location. The acknowledgement that Hollywood spits out the same stuff over and over and takes lives of many was good. Acting was mostly good. I would have liked to know more about The count and who he was supposed to represent (getty?), as well as some other big wigs.
A mix of the modern Gatsby, Hail Caesar and as someone else pointed out some boogie nights.
Definitely has a lot of Boogie nights parallels
I said it straight away after the long opening segment and after that i caught a fair few scenes that were like Boogie Nights
The Coke scene at begining- Amber and Rollergirl
Manny's long stare at Robbie thinking WTF am i doing here
Robbie's first scene crying on Cue and asking if they want to go again/Dirk cumming on Cue and asking if they want to go again.
The money scene with Tobey Maguire is basically the scene when they try to sell fake coke
Brad Pitts suicide scene is just like Little Bills
The Rolling decades times changing
There's a few more i think those are just top of my head