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Gamer is sadly the future of movies


my buddy and i are sick over the demise of the movie. as time marches on movies are being reduced to nothing more than fast-moving, shaky camera scenes that don't allow anyone to sit and absorb THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF ALL THAT IS NO LONGER A MUST IN A MOVIE--THE STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as long as our eyes are filled with visually slick effects nothing else matters. movies are frenetic anymore. not all, but it seems a trend. can you even imagine a movie like places in the heart even being brought to the screen in this day and time. it would probably be laughed out of the studio exec's office for being too slow, too story-driven, too character-driven.

gamer was ridiculously bad. horrendously bad. but somehow this dross makes it to the screen when there are so many deserving unknowns out there who have decent, even wonderful, stories to tell.

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I truely hated this film. It was a soul destroying load of rubbish. It has all the charm of watching some one else playing a rubbish XBOX game. The editing of blured shakey images gave me a bad headache. If this is the future of action films in the cinema then I will not go anymore.

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I usually hate shaky cam stuff, 'Bourne' made me sick. But this film it worked because of the fact it was all about digital technology and online gaming.

Story, what where you expecting from a film called Gamer where people kill each other for entertainment? I tell you I was expecting far less than I got. The film using a futuristic setting to satirize today's voyeuristic faceless geeks and exhibitionists that would do anything for attention. To point out that thin line between killing for fun and real life or death. The difference between the kind of people that play Call of Duty and the kind that play The Sims.

That fused with some original fight scenes and quirky visuals made this film unique, not run of the mill.

Also I hate to burst your bubble but Stories in Hollywood movies particularly the Action genre took 2nd place to the action about 30 years ago.

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well the storyline sucked @ss.. ill give u that! but the filmaking was kinda interesting.. dont knw wat they used.. but some of the images looked straight frm FPS game

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I'm not a big fan of the shaky close up camera style either...

The movie wasn't executed that well either. I mean it got the feeling of the virtual world pretty good but...just wasn't that good as a whole.

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I didn't really have a chance to read through anyone's posts but the OP, but I have to say I somewhat agree. It reminds me of the "Feelies" in Brave New World. They're movies that aren't about the story at all - they're all about the feel.

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ashleyxr, excellent comparison and succinctly put. thanks.

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I completely agree with you. And while it's a valid point that people make that people who don't like this sort of thing should just not watch it, it is also a valid point to make that these kind of films are ruining the film industry.

I enjoy mindless films as much as anyone, I can appreciate every genre of filmmaking, however, there are less and less masterpieces being made because of today's audience.

Let's be honest, the majority of today's audience doesn't have the patience nor the intellect to actually sit and immerse themselves in a wonderful piece of filmmaking. Most just want to turn their brains off and watch something fast, loud and cliche because they can't handle watching a proper movie - they consider them as slow and dull and aren't capable of investing their emotions in to them.

Film makers create films like Gamer because they know the audience is too braindead to watch anything else.

I am not, of course, generalising everyone, many people do have the patience and intellect, but in all honesty most do not.

It would be fine if Gamer actually had an interesting storyline and characters you could care about, who are in depth. But no thought is put in to films these days, people don't bother to include character development and worthwhile storylines, because they know the audience no longer cares and they just want a fast, violent film which they don't have to involve their brains in. Gamer has paper thin characters and a rehashed story from earlier, and better, films.

Gore is fine, if backed by interesting characters and a great story. Just take a look at John Carpemter's The Thing - it's a gory film in parts, but it also contains a lot of depth to the characters and you care about them and the film is full of tension and atmosphere. I recently had the pleasure of watching it on the big screen as it came back to the cinema for one day only, and it saddened me to see only around 20 people in there, while the masses went to watch rubbish like The Final Destination.

Today's audience has no clue what makes a powerful movie and sadly they don't care, which is exactly why films like Gamer will continue to be made instead of films that are actually worthwhile.

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keith, this was a most thoughtful post. it should be set into granite and placed outside every major studio.

it is not that we begrudge anyone the opportunity to watch mindless dribble like gamer. it is that we have seemingly no other options and definitely not much chance at viewing a masterpiece as you called the wonderful movies that have to fight to be made now.

if you want to watch something shocking about the state of the movie industry today, get the documentary "tales from the script." it explains better than anything i've seen what has happened to those masterpieces and why it has happened.

it's nice to know that there are others out there like myself and those i know who feel the same. let's hope things start looking up soon.

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yeah, tales says a lot

also check out DECADE UNDER THE INFLUENCE. it illustrates the changes in the industry following the 60s, which has led us to where we are now. corporate studios. yuck

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The OP probably doesn't even check this thread anymore, but it did make me giggle.

> THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF ALL THAT IS NO LONGER A MUST IN A MOVIE--THE STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, that would be an important element of a novel. A movie is a motion picture, therefore, the image itself is the most important element. Woo. And on that note, "Gamer" hit the picture on the nose. While it may have suffered a bit of shaky cam (though not nearly that of Tony Scott, so I'm not sure why you're complaining about it), the lighting was virtually flawless. Excellent work by Ekkehart Pollack.

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@amphigoryforme

silly rabbit, jacksonpollock has been dead for years.

just kidding.

alas, cinematography does NOT a movie make. nor a film. not even an art film. sorry dude, you missed it here. i could say volumes but i am hungry and need to go eat. but for now, i will quote wm goldman: "movies are structure, and that is all they are. period."

you gaymer fans (oops. gamer fans) are stuck on titilation, and that is what you value. okay, so be it. but dont go calling that a good story.

i get the whole visual enticement thing. but if there is not a compelling, COHERENT story line to ACCOMPANY the great cinematography, then what the h3ll did they turn the camera on for. i used to say they wasted celluloid. now it's different with digie cams, but same principle.

photography for photography's sake, in and of itself, is NOT sufficient to call something a movie.

i ask you, if the photography was the main thing, would you like it just as much with now sound? why not rerelease gamer as a silent film, since (by your admission) the audio doesn't matter anyway, since the visuals are the meat of it.

moreover, if i showed you the most awe inspiring cinematography of paint drying on a wall, even a beautiful wall in greece or something, or wonderful cinematography of sunlight on the bark of a tree, would that satisfy you as a movie fan? would that be a movie you would love? if you say no, then i remind you BUT THE D@MN CAM WORK WAS KICKIN BRO!!! HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE THIS!!?? I MEAN, IT IS THE BEST PAINTDRYINGCINEMATOGRAPHY IN THE WORLD.

alas, photography sans story is hollow, boring, and meaningless. (unless it's a seminar on camera work or something)

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amphigoryforme, i'm the OP. you replied to me, and i do check this thread.

and the irony. i giggled too when i read your post!

true, a movie is a motion picture. i will give you that. but, i would define motion picture as the visible action(s) performed by characters as they work their way through some event which would be called a story.

so, am i correct in assuming that you would be most content to sit for two hours watching a bunch of thoroughly unrelated, yet beautifully shot, beautifully lit scenes that don't contribute one scintilla to an overarching struggle or triumph by a character?

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It's probably an era of movies. I think I'm high right now but what I mean is there are "eras" of movie "genres". Like in video games when some thing like shader 2.0 comes out, or rather, remember web 2.0? That's a better analogy than video game technology. Now every new cool website has to have a name like "flickr", "fiverr" etc. It's like fashion, mullets were cool then, but they aren't now. And it obviously pays off, just like people keep seeing the fµcking "Date Movie" and its derivatives and derivator. When they grow tired off it, the movie industry'll move on to something else. It's just a fad. Hopefully a shortlived one.

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