Gamer is sadly the future of movies - Gamer (2009) Discussion

[–] b-alkattan 15 years ago

Stop whining. Even an idiot can understand the story. The only time there was shakey cameras was during the action or chase scenes.

And if you don't like it, don't watch it.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

balkattan

you say an idiot can understand the story.

you say you do understand the story.

so then, you must be the idiot who needs to explain it to me, huh.

(wow. a movie for idiots. what a new idea)

and, thanks, you are right, i wont watch it, geez. what a lame movie

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[–] heatypetey 15 years ago

so... ur asking an "idiot" to explain the story of a movie to u. so wat does that make u?

"I trust everyone; I just don't trust the devil inside them." - John Bridger

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

beatin your petey,

do you see a question mark in my post?

i didn't ask him to explain anything. i already *know* it sucks....

the point was rhetorical. and, again, it was no question.

he's the one who volunteered himself as an idiot. since you are defending him you must have taken offense. so, you idiots stick together huh.

(get it. stick. stick together. like pages of a grimy magazine. hahahahahahaah you iz a funny beatypetey, hahahahahahaah)

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[–] heatypetey 15 years ago

"so then, you must be the idiot who needs to explain it to me huh?"

um... if ur trying to tell me that isn't a question mark at the end of that sentence then u might need to go back to elementary school. but, on the other hand, i'm begining to wonder if u've actually graduated from there if u have to resort to name calling in an attempt to gain an upper hand in an internet argument. if that's so, i commend u on the use of the word "rhetorical", pretty big word for a little man.

"I trust everyone; I just don't trust the devil inside them." - John Bridger

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

no sorry, i dont see a question mark in your post... but i can spell the word 'your'

:)

get lost sucker

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[–] KnifeMcBarrett 15 years ago

Nice edit.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

wifeMcbarrett,

thanks! editing is a nice tool. kinda like you guys... are all nice tools.

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[–] sl4sh3r2004 15 years ago

Judging by your posts, you must be, what .. 13-14 years old?

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[–] cybopath 15 years ago

Oh, but you didn't use a capital I in your sentence.

I love hearing people bitch online about grammar and spelling like anyone gives a crap about a post they will read once.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

cybo, did anybody AXT you???????????????????

hahahahahahaha

you losers crack me up!! (dont go gettin 'cited cause somebody mentioned crack, now!)

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[–] cybopath 15 years ago

Na, my opinion is free of charge don't worry.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

cykopath,

1--your opinion is free because that is what it is worth

2--rest at easethat i'm not worried

3--you are obviously trolling, and only selected me because of my race

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[–] cybopath 15 years ago

Ouch that hurt my feelings. I'm trolling? I didn't seek out a film forum to bash the film in question then get upset when people defend it. Or use punctuation and grammar jives to try and win an argument.

Have a nice day.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

let's not make this racial, okay. thanks for your cooperation

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

number one, who.T.F. ax't you?

number two, Y-O-U are the one making this racial, not me.

number three, Y-O-U are the one tossing out labels. i don't appreciate labels either way, against me, or against white people either. so there. can you cease and desist now? preciate it

number four, the post was to someone else (so repeat number one)

number five, what do you mean, 'colored folk'? man you krayzee. hahaha. you musta saw tropic thinda huh. boy you cracks me up

number six, i dont 'call' my self anything. but my bitches 'call' me when they need money or love, or when they want to cook daddy supper.

number seven, you are right, i am not a whitey. i am a middle aged black man.

number eight, i aint mad atcha brother. peace owt. i know you din' mean no harm brother.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

get lost home skillet................

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

this racism is discouraging. i thought obama was gonna change all that

sad

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[–] Black_Dahlia 15 years ago

Actually, you can't spell the word "you're," because that what "ur" represents.

I bet you pluralize with apostrophe's, too.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

beatey the petey,

did you notice the wonderful plot in law abiding citizen?

truly wonderful

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

BeatyPetey,

were you that guy on the couch in the movie? was that you?.......

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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[–] heatypetey 15 years ago

life. get one.

"I trust everyone; I just don't trust the devil inside them." - John Bridger

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

it is clear that beatyPeaty has singled me out because of the color of my skin. there seems to be no other point behind her attacks.

beaty, i had hoped that these boards would be a place where racial tensions could be left behind for the greater camraderie of movie buffs, but sadly i now see that senseless racism follows us everywhere-- even onto these boards.

sorry you didn't take the time to absorb my well-presented points from my earlier posts.

and i hope you get a grip on your racism soon. it can rot one's heart, bro.

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[–] heatypetey 15 years ago

colour of ur skin? u hid in ur mom's basement for so long ur skin is transparant!

btw, hope u enjoyed "couple's retreat". BY YOURSELF!

"I trust everyone; I just don't trust the devil inside them." - John Bridger

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[–] Rudezy 13 years ago

This is a fallacy (a fault in your argument)...

Like,
People keep dogs as pets
People keep cats as pets
Therefore dogs are cats

Next time you call someone an idiot.. try not to be one yourself!

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[–] LTUM 13 years ago

please paste me in a quote so i can see what you are referring to. i have no idea wht you are talking about, and since this was three years ago.....

btw i am aware of the fallacy argument you cited here. i use that one often. i will be interested to see how you are using it against me here.

drugs...changed...everything..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8MGBn3KawM&feature=related

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[–] PlatinumScreen 15 years ago

b-, exactly right!! i didn't like it so i didn't watch it. i left once it reached critical mass of laughability after 30 minutes like so many people who have posted on the gamer board.

however, i take comfort in the fact that a movie was made that even idiots can understand. idiots shouldn't be left out. they have rights too.

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[–] sweiland75 15 years ago

but they got your money anyways

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ You can help change the world.

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[–] PlatinumScreen 15 years ago

yeah, man, that's hilarious, isn't it? hahahahahahahahaha. so funny. it is a LOL moment when a movie lover gives a movie some money and a chance only to be disappointed. insanely funny. my side hurts.

they got my money, and so have a lot of examples of film refuse in the past and there will be many more in the future no doubt.

as a lover of the cinematic experience, that is a gamble i am willing to take.

but i'll still post on these boards my thoughts, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

hey swine land 75,

they got the money, yeah. but the joke will be on them when down the road, they ruin their own industry at which point they wont be getting ANYBODY'S MONEY.

hahahahahahahah

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

go back to swineland, jerkweed

(you can change the world too, by refraining from stupid posts like your last one)

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

btw swine land, your world commie grid.org project is horse cr@p.

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[–] chrisbedford 15 years ago

The only time there was shakey cameras was during the action or chase scenes

so that would be about 1h18 of the 1h25 total running time then

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[–] Dyellyc 15 years ago

eh what story. any half-informed person knows that 'shaky-cam' or even excessive motion blur for that matter, are common techniques used to hide poor quality special effects; compositing or editing.

"The only time there was shakey cameras was during the action or chase scenes"

90% of the film then

QED

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

to Lame Dog Rerun,

by all means, cite the critics. like they know.

(applause)

gee whiz.........

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[–] PlatinumScreen 15 years ago

marty, well said!!!! thank you for stating my point so articulately. :)

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

marty you are very eloquent. PROPS. good job. well said

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[–] PlatinumScreen 15 years ago

yes, it has been difficult to get out a lot since my stroke and i have to rely on my teenage grandson for transportation. he is the one who wanted to see gamer and i was a captive audience. so yes, as a vietnam war veteran i suppose i am way too old to learn anything new.

wow, kramedog, who doesn't get out much? i who just threw out there my opinion without insulting anyone except possibly the people who made gamer who are rich and successful and don't care what i think anyway or you who copied and pasted my very words into your response complete with insults?

look, after my stint in nam i taught teenagers for 30 years. teaching teenagers makes one an expert at deflecting insults.

however, you are entitled to your opinion, but reel in the anger, okay?

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[–] jrscott4 15 years ago

You need to look at it within the genre... name a better video game movie... This is a typical action movie and it entertains. It's not trying to be Casa Blanca, its a freaking Video Game movie. I can't believe someone so pretentious would even pay to see this. Why on gods green earth would you do that? If you don't like mindless action movies then don't go see them.

I really enjoy B movies and zombie movies and every other movie that sets out to be something and does it. Even if its so bad its funny, its a movie :) I see 2 movies a week and can take a movie at face value and tell what kind of movie its going to be from the preview... why can't you? Is it that hard? It seems pretty easy. If you scoff at the preview, then don't pay to see it. If you didn't see the preview then its your own fault for not researching when you're so pretentious. Case closed.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

jrscott

lara croft was a better video game movie. i dont know others but surely there are better ones. besides, your premise is wrong anyway.... it shouldnt be a good video game movie, it should be a good movie in general

also, it was not presented as a mindless movie, the trailer made it seem as if it had a plot. THAT'S WHY I WENT TO SEE IT. oh but you are right, after this..... i WONT SEE IT again.

anyone who liked this TRASH and WASTE OF CELLULOID should have their head examined

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[–] PlatinumScreen 15 years ago

jr, thank you so much for clearing this up for me. it is WRONG for someone who is pretentious to enter a theater blind to a movie's merits or lack of without pouring over research and boards and reviews and trailers and comments and critics and articles. it is WRONG for someone who is pretentious to view a cross-section of movie genres. i should just stick with the pretentious movies. for my pretentious self.

and for the record, i didn't scoff at the preview. i saw it and was intrigued by it. i wanted to see gamer because of it. gamer just didn't deliver the goods when the goods counted.

look, when people are fleeing the theater after 15 minutes as they are for this one (have you read the other posts on the gamer board?), it is just a BAD movie, no matter what genre it is.

and by the way, i think gerard butler is awesome and watch anything he does gladly, except this one.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

""If you scoff at the preview, then don't pay to see it. If you didn't see the preview then its your own fault for not researching when you're so pretentious. Case closed.""

jr scott, you left out one category--- what if i SAW THE PREVIEW AND LIKED THE PREVIEW (which is true)...but then later found that the movie itself was nothing like what was sold in the preview.

because... my brother... that is what happened.

so what is your 'case closed' retort to this? i wanna hear

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[–] jrscott4 15 years ago

Since a few of you addressed my comment I thought I'd reply back:

If you saw the preview and thought it looked good, then you are right, my argument doesn't apply to you.

I saw that preview and was expecting a hilariously awful video game movie and got what I expected, so I wasn't pissed. Me and my movie nerd friends had some laughs at its expense; it was bloody and violent, had mindless action, a giant F'n Ludacris, a ridiculous dance fight scene and a cringe inducing closing line of "well played" from a guy that looks like an Apple store employee. Thats worth 9$ any day :)

Just a heads up, you will want to skip Zombie Land no matter how good the preview looks to you. It will be bloody, violent, have mindless action, something that, you can refer to as a "Bif F'n fill in the blank", corny dialog and more than likely a cringe inducing closing line. I on the other hand will see and enjoy the hell out of it.

P.S. In response to a another comment, Tomb Raider was not better in my opinion but I can see how an AJ fan would like that movie. I'd argue Wizard from the early 90's was better: A Power Glove that works?!?! OMG! That's funny! Caaaaaliiifoooornia Caaaaaliiiifooooornia... and a sneak preview at Mario 3! Rad... When I was 5 and saw this movie I wanted to travel around the U.S. playing in professional video game contests. I refuse to watch it today knowing much like Thundercats and He-Man it will be much lamer than I remember *hangs head in shame*

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

good post scott. props for the heads up on zombie. peaceful journey to my cinema brotha!

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[–] director777 15 years ago

i'm goin to agree with the main dude, i'm kinda sick of most action movies where it's basicly decent plot with flasy visuals and a hard as nails hero who has a heart (awww) i loath the shakycam phenonema with a passion, namely because i usually can't see the action. i know that, like it or not, all action movies will be like this for another new while until a movie comes along to set a new trend Die Hard and The Matrix changed the trend...it'll be a new decade soon so we're bound for a change in pace (yaaaay)

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[–] evandest 15 years ago

you want a better video game movie... eXistenZ... it did a better job in every way.

but my biggest problem with Gamer is the fact that the story is always repeating itself... like the fat guy... I understand the first time that he is stupid and fat and disgusting... and that he is addicted to the game. BUT you don't need to tell me the same thing 50 times...

and why do they go in the rave... I mean there is no reason to go in there... the only reason is because the writers/directors want an action scene in a rave... that is the only reason... and that's a bad screenplay

and the future was simply not believable... too many questions... and no answers... you need to be able to see yourself living there in 10-20 years... the best exemple I can think of is Children of Men, Gattaca or even Blade Runner... well Blade Runner would be more like 40-50 years in the future but it's still a good example of how a futuristic environment should feel like.

and the ending... was very lame... the guy nodding at Gerard Butler' character... like he's saying good job man you deserve to win you're a good guy... very bad...

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

i dont think we were talking future of ratings, we meant the future of plotless CGI junk taking over good movies.

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[–] davidec1984 15 years ago

A couple of points.

1. A:"This movie is bad..."
B:"If you don't like the movie, don't watch it!"

Whatever happened to criticism Mr B? Mr A is not saying the movie should be legislated against. He (presumably) paid a cinema ticket to see it (as did I earlier this evening) and he thought it was crap. Even if he torrented it, it's still a piece of art, and since we're not in a PC cotton-wool world, if it's rubbish, it's rubbish.

2. "It's simple cheap action-minded entertainment..."

I enjoy 'cerebral' films - say, a very heavy dialogue piece like 12 Angry Men - and I enjoy action films in equal measure. Not all entertainment has to be clever, but Gamer's action scenes are so hackneyed and repetitive you simply don't get anything from watching them. The bleached, desaturated look is straight out of Three Kings, the shaky-cam is straight out of Bourne, Cloverfield and a thousand other recent pieces, and the gunplay is tactically meaningless. Some guy falls down sans appendage. Why? Because he was a target for the main protagonist. In Gamer it's simply bassy loud noises, which don't even feel realistic to anyone who's been around fired weapons. The martial arts is substandard and repetitive, with Kable winning by writer's fiat and not skill.

Compare and contrast with this scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zssZQBDUj-A

You can see what's happening. You can see the progression as they move down the street and become separated. The gunfire is echoey, urban and real. It still falls to some writer's fiat problems but overall it's superior to Gamer because it's original and skilful. Anyone can shake a cam filming a guy shooting someone, not everyone is Michael Mann.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

'not everyone is michael mann'

SO TRUE!!!! good post. damn good post

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[–] PlatinumScreen 15 years ago

davidec1984, brilliant post. brilliant.

i am mr. a in your post and have been ridiculed and insulted by many mr. b's who thought i should have never set foot in the theater to see gamer since there was even the smallest chance that i might not like it. this is a ludicrous assertion on their part. operating on preconceived notions and biases can prevent me from viewing many worthwhile and enjoyable movies across many genres. i don't close my mind off to any movie without giving it a chance to prove itself or not. a very cinema savvy buddy taught me that.

your comments on gamer were most interesting, correct, and well put. and yes, as a michael mann fan myself, not everyone can be michael mann. unfortunately.

once again, fantastic post.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

who gives a damn if it's pg 13 or r or g or pg or nc 17 if it S-U-X

thats my point

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

you are right that there have always been plotless action movies... i agree.

but think about it. in the 70s and 80s, werent they always b movies? gamer was billed top billing, made to seem like a real well written movie.

hmmmmmm.

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[–] PlatinumScreen 15 years ago

Loony Bin Jim, no one expected to walk into this movie and see something akin to schindler's list. i do not fault anyone who saw the trailer as i did and now realize they relied on smoke and mirrors to disguise a weak plot.

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

jim,
who the hell said anything about the future of society? huh? wtf?? not me... reread my posts if you think that. btw i liked crank. a thill and well constructed plot, not boring, etc

gamer just sucked.

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[–] davidec1984 15 years ago

'Preciate your comments PlatinumScreen. It's a sad day when not only the "It's just an action movie" line is sufficient, but apparently all you need to make said action movie are some muscle, too much bass in the soundtrack, too much grey and bleach in the film, and some explosions to boot.

In other words: "I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT... LOUD NOISES!"

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

loon jim,

i did see the preview and i disagree with you. it didn't look mndless and streamofconsciousness, as you imply here.

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[–] superspygoestowar 15 years ago

this film is visually arresting, but too tiresome to endure on the big screen.....about 30 years ago, this is exactly how I imagined 'future movies' but 3 decades on, the reality is a let-down.

Should appease the braindead, however.....

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[–] LTUM 15 years ago

well said super, well said.

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[–] PlatinumScreen 15 years ago

clockwork44, great and thoughtful post. your comments are right on. thank you for the recommendation of movie wars.

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