I think it is terrible and have given it three viewings. It gets worse. What am I missing? It's not just how sloooooow it is. It's not clever, fun or interesting and I wanted all the people to die. I liked Reservoir, Pulp, Kill Bills and Inglorious...did not like Jackie Brown. But this....this is TERRIBLE. Am I alone here?
Marion Cotillard and Keira Knightley are the most beautiful women on Earth.
On the D.V.D I do like to skip ahead to the second group of girls.
With friends like Abernathy, Kim and Zoe you do not need enemies.
i love this film. the dialogue, the music, the directing, the interesting actresses. i love it all. there was a time when i would watch this movie almost every day (sometimes more). i never thought it was so slow. i noticed new things every time i watch it. no offense, but maybe it's just over your head.
Oh...my...Goddess.
If you actually think this film could be over anyone's head then you must hang around some pretty tight circles. No offense.
Marion Cotillard and Keira Knightley are the most beautiful women on Earth.
you're the one who started a post saying you didnt understand it.
Oh...my...Goddess.
Well said Willow.
shareNo, no he didn't. He said he didn't LIKE it. Big difference, and I happen to agree. I have seen this movie several times, and I also can't figure out why people like it. It is so good a homage to crappy 70s exploitation movies, that it is itself a crappy exploitation movie. And there is a reason they don't make these anymore: they tend to suck.
"Everyone will poop successfully in your absence."
The OP didn't want people telling him/her, he's/she's ingnorant. That wasn't the post at all.
shareits a dragging movie, very slow and long in most parts.
Editing would have done wonders with the movie's pacing.
As for the dialogue, Most women i know dont talk that way with each other.
Hell, even the lesbians i know dont talk that way.
And if you think that women get along to talk only about their love or sex lives then you dont know women at all.
The movie is actually pretty chauvinistic, it potrays women as shallow.
The only uplifting parts where when they got their revenge but the way they do it
is still mangled up since they are shown doing as the way men do it.
Beating up the antagonist with fists and feet, i mean even men when they get their revenge on people who tried to kill them use weapons like rocks, sticks etc
Basically the dialogue is written by a man who thinks that women talk and think that way when its very inaccurate.
Still i can see the effort here no matter how imperfect it was.
I can forget the dialogues but i just cant get over the fact that even in drama movies, a lot of movies have much better pacing even if they dont have a bit of action scenes in them.
This is why i think that Death Proof fails, the pacing is glacier slow.
The scene where the first group girls get killed and the end car chase are what's to like but other than that it's dull tripe full of nothing but self-indulgent mental masturbation that tries to pass itself as "dialogue" and "script writing".
sharewell said Yatagan.
Marion Cotillard and Keira Knightley are the most beautiful women on Earth.
the entire diner scene with the second group of girls talking is genius. the part about guns makes me laugh every time. sorry your guys are intimidated by smart women.
Oh...my...Goddess.
I love this movie. I think it's so much better than Planet Terror. The way its filmed and the style is excellent.
I do agree that the first half is a little slow, but the payoff in the middle is excellent. Kurt Russell is in top form throughout and the second half also has its climax with the car chase.
i love tarantino and his dialogue in movies but this is different. its a bunch of girls talkin absolute crap for ages. it is actually like sitting at a table with 4 or 5 girls and listening to them talk. i can understand girls liking this movie more than guys, painful movie
shareHmmmmm...wouldn't you think smart women would have been able to come up with something other than Mother *beep* every sentence? Smart is the last thing they sounded like.
Marion Cotillard and Keira Knightley are the most beautiful women on Earth.
if that is the best you've got, then this conversation is long over.
Oh...my...Goddess.
You are right. Since you can't justify the language there is no reason to argue. Thanks for admitting it.
Marion Cotillard and Keira Knightley are the most beautiful women on Earth.
Thanks for stoppin by. You can go shave your back now.
I don't need to justify anything. This movie is awesome, and you, sir, are an ignorant fool.
Oh...my...Goddess.
Hmmmmm...wouldn't you think smart women would have been able to come up with something other than Mother *beep* every sentence? Smart is the last thing they sounded like.
I love the dialogue and I think it's interesting to listen to.
I found that most people that didn't enjoy the movie are guys with short attention spans and who only wanted to watch Kurt Russel kill young women for no apparent reason.
Too bad, but that wasn't the point of this movie.
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um hello?! the best car chase ever?! The only downside was watching my two favorite muscle cars get totally destroyed, but on another note, it was fun.
Do I see sheets of plastic in your future?
You're not missing anything. If anything, it's QT who swung and missed in this one. I didn't enjoy it, and it absolutely sucked when compared with Planet Terror, which I thought was brilliant in its own stupid way.
Now before you people start to jump on me, let me say that I am not saying this is a terrible movie. It has its good points. But overall, it failed for me. I didn't like the dialogue, and I don't think it was QT's best. If you liked it, hey, bully for you, I'm not faulting you as a person. It just didn't work for me. I can't see 4 chicks sitting around talking like that.
I asked the doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well.
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roegcamel, I would like to try to keep this a civil discussion. I will accept your criticisms of us homo choads (including myself) who don't like the movie as having been made slightly tongue in cheek with intent to amuse.
I don't think it was boring; I do think it wasn't well-written, but I can accept to agree to disagree on that score. You think it was well-written, that's okay in my book. And I have an actual book where I've written that roegcamel is okay.
My question for you is this: I accept that the women would chase Stuntman Mike down like that. Hell, yeah they would do that. But can you explain why all of a sudden Stuntman Mike turned into a crying whiny little pu$$y all of a sudden? This ruined it for me.
Some have given the explanation that he was just a bully, and when bullies are confronted, they back off and break down. The comparison was made to Scut Farkas in a similar situation in A Christmas Story.
I don't buy that for a second. There is a world of difference between being a schoolyard bully and being a calculating vehicular homicidal psychopath. Mike was a calm, cool, collected complete bada$$. He ain't no b!tch's pu$$y.
Also, for those who say he had never been hurt this badly before - being shot - I call BS. He was Stuntman Mike for chrissakes! Stuntmen get hurt, by definition. And he surely got hurt when he killed the first carful of girls, and he wasn't crying like a whiny little pu$$y then.
And since you seem to be a fan of QT's - as I think I am, too - can you help me out with Inglorious Basterds too, while you're at it? My problem with the movie is Hitler being there. I thought the movie was great, a lot of fun before that. The initial scene with the Jew-hunter at the farmer's house was one of the most incredibly riveting scenes ever put to film I've ever seen. But Hitler dying at the end just flatout ruined it for me, because, well, that just didn't happen!
Look, okay, it's a fantasy, but fantasy can only get me so far. I can only suspend disbelief so much. I can accept a Jew-hunter. I can accept a squad of Nazi-hunters. I can accept the whole plot and planning to draw the big muckety-muck generals to the theater and kill them all. (I thought the scene with the giveaway "three finger" thing was a bit bogus, but again, a taut, tense scene that had me on the edge of my seat.) No problem so far. But if only they had Hitler duck out of the theatre for a smoke at a critical moment, I wouldn't have had as big of a problem with the movie. But he died in the fire along with everyone else. THAT, I have a problem with.
Am I not getting something? Am I looking at the movie the wrong way? Help!
I asked the doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well.
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OP the fact you don't like Jackie Brown is a testament to your displeasure with Death Proof. Both films are heavy on the dialogue and driven by it to a point. roegcamel you hit the nail on the head my friend. I also noticed the correlation between Stuntman Mike crying his eyes out and Scott Farkus doing the same after Ralphie beats him to a bloody pulp.
Utah! Get me two.
I don't want to pull out the "you don't get it" card but, well... I am. People either see the beauty in it or don't. I kind of pity the people who don't but it's not their fault. All I know is that people who like Death Proof are my kind of people.
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After reading all the posts word for word, I took the advice and watched it again.
It was worse. There will never be a third time.
Marion Cotillard, Keira Knightley and Rie Rasmussen are the most beautiful women on Earth.
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I think it is Tarantino's weakest film. It is basically the same story told twice in a row, and it didn't hold my interest the first time around. However, I liked it a little more the second time, because my feelings for the characters changed. The first time, I liked the first group of girls, and was pretty pissed that they died, even though their death scene was awesome. But the second time, they just seemed like a bunch of skanks to me, and I was pretty happy to see them go. I thought the second group of girls was really likable and I liked seeing them beat up Kurt Russell. I would still rank this at the bottom of Tarantino's movies though.
The Indians are coming! Quick, put your scalp in your pocket! -Groucho Marx
You don't have to like it, it's OK. I love it, but if you don't then it just didn't appeal to you. And that's totally OK.
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"Love means never having to say you're ugly." - the Abominable Dr. Phibes
Death Proof is not just a bad movie, it will literally make you more retarded if you watch it. If you passionately defend it and say it is a great movie, you need to watch a few other movies and read some books, age about 20 years mentally, take a deep breath, look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself why you think it is a good movie. Unnatural dialogue? unreal characters? homages? references? cool music???
Tarantino has always made nothing but pure crap. At his best, he makes some darn good, awesomely entertaining, stylish crap. Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction, Inglorious Bastards. Those were crap movies. But they were awesome and entertaining.
Death Proof is such a huge miss it really made me look at Tarantino again. If you watch some of the earlier stuff he's written again - True Romance, From Dusk Til Dawn... jesus, he's such an unbelievable hack. He's never been able to write non-cartoon characters with an ounce of believability.
At the very least, I'll give him that his movies are alot better than the REALLY UNBELIEVABLY BAD crap like 'Smoking Aces' and 'Boondock Saints'.
Whatever! You don't have to like it.
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"Love means never having to say you're ugly." - the Abominable Dr. Phibes