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Death Proof or Jackie Brown

posted 12 years ago by cat_gio
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Let it be known that I am not comparing Death Proof to Jackie Brown(well, I am actually, but not that Death Proof is just as good as Jackie Brown- because it's not).

What I'm asking is that a lot of people say that Jackie Brown is Tarantino's least violent/gorey film, and while I think they are right about that, how come no one has brought up Death Proof? Honestly, the story line is pretty decent, but I actually just think people would expect more violence from Tarantino and that's why it is considered to be his worst (in his own eyes as well).

So, what are your thoughts? Jackie Brown had just as much talk as Death Proof, except that the talk in Jackie Brown was actually interesting and comical, rather than the redundant fashion talk. (That coming a 16 year old girl, so no hate!)

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[–] stanleyhetz 12 years ago

What I'm asking is that a lot of people say that Jackie Brown is Tarantino's least violent/gorey film, and while I think they are right about that, how come no one has brought up Death Proof? Honestly, the story line is pretty decent, but I actually just think people would expect more violence from Tarantino and that's why it is considered to be his worst (in his own eyes as well).

I don't give a sh*t what Tarantino thinks about "Death Proof" because it is an awesome movie. It never gets old.

[–] cat_gio 12 years ago

Alright, now answer the damn question- would you like Death Proof better if it had more violence?

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[–] stanleyhetz 12 years ago

Alright, now answer the damn question- would you like Death Proof better if it had more violence?

I wouldn't complain if the movie was the exact same story with one exception: more violence shown in it.

[–] cat_gio 12 years ago

I agree- it probably would have been better liked if it did have more violence

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[–] stanleyhetz 12 years ago

I agree- it probably would have been better liked if it did have more violence

You might be right. Even as it is now, it's still one of my all-time favorite movies, and I watch my DVD frequently.

[–] cat_gio 12 years ago

But honestly, you can't but help make the Jackie Brown connection- I haven't seen Jackie Brown in a while but I still recall a bit more violence in that than Death Proof. Here you really have two scenes (granted, they are pretty long- well the second one) that are separated by talk. In Jackie Brown it was more of two minuscule accounts of violence.

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[–] stanleyhetz 12 years ago

But honestly, you can't but help make the Jackie Brown connection- I haven't seen Jackie Brown in a while but I still recall a bit more violence in that than Death Proof. Here you really have two scenes (granted, they are pretty long- well the second one) that are separated by talk. In Jackie Brown it was more of two minuscule accounts of violence.

I never saw "Jackie Brown" before, but I like the talking and the music and the violence that are in "Death Proof."

[–] cat_gio 12 years ago

I never saw "Jackie Brown" before, but I like the talking and the music and the violence that are in "Death Proof."

Wow. How can you compare the two without seeing one of the two things that is being compared?

And I strongly suggest you watch it.

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[–] stanleyhetz 12 years ago

Wow. How can you compare the two without seeing one of the two things that is being compared?

And I strongly suggest you watch it.

Wow. How can you ask such a question if you understood my posts? I have never compared the two movies.

Read my stuff. All that I ever said was that Death Proof is a great movie. I never said anything about Jackie Brown.

[–] cat_gio 12 years ago

First, you really have to stop quoting, I understand you're responding to me- I'm the only other poster. Second, the post is asking whether Death Proof or Jackie Brown is more violent. One should have seen both movies to say whether Death Proof is more violent or not. The fact that we expanded does not overlook the fact that it started out as a comparative post (the key word being "or").

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[–] stanleyhetz 12 years ago

First, you really have to stop quoting, I understand you're responding to me- I'm the only other poster. Second, the post is asking whether Death Proof or Jackie Brown is more violent. One should have seen both movies to say whether Death Proof is more violent or not. The fact that we expanded does not overlook the fact that it started out as a comparative post (the key word being "or").

No. I don't have to stop quoting. I quote in almost all my responses on this website. It's a habit that I have, and it's one that I intend to keep. That way, nobody thinks I'm responding to them when I'm responding to somebody else. I've seen it happen many times. I just like everybody to see exactly what I'm responding to.

As for my responses to you, I do apologize because I misread your initial post. Right before you posted what you did, I was reading where Quentin Tarantino called "Death Proof" his "worst" film. For some reason, I was thinking your post was about that, but now I can see that I was mistaken. For that, I do apologize. I think the reason I misunderstood might have been because of some medicine I had to take. I was the one who was wrong. I'm sorry.

[–] cat_gio 12 years ago

Alright, situation understood

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[–] stanleyhetz 12 years ago

Alright, situation understood

[–] simbob4000 11 years ago

Catgioi

But honestly, you can't but help make the Jackie Brown connection- I haven't seen Jackie Brown in a while but I still recall a bit more violence in that than Death Proof. Here you really have two scenes (granted, they are pretty long- well the second one) that are separated by talk. In Jackie Brown it was more of two minuscule accounts of violence.

Than you are remember Jackie Brown massively wrong. There's like four people that get killed in that movie, and all the kills are shot in such a way where you don't really see anything. There's nothing in Jackie Brown that's even comparable to the violence in this movie.

[–] iresheen 12 years ago

Speaking as somebody who definitely ranks Death Proof as Tarantino's worst and ranks Jackie Brown much more highly... violence has nothing to do with it.

I heard so much about how awful Death Proof was and then when I finally watched it I got about half way through (after ***SPOILER*** Stuntman Mike kills the first set of girls) thinking that it was one of the most underrated movies I had seen. The first half had a lot of talking and not a huge amount of action but it did an excellent job of building up a villain to really hate and it just needed a good protagonist or set of protagonists to come in and get put in some serious peril before finally defeating him.

Well, that's when it started to go downhill. The new protagonists' were so *beep* annoying that I actually sided with Stuntman Mike by the end. I'm not sure if I've ever hated 'sympathetic' characters so much. Then there was the laughable ending where he stumbles around getting punched for a while... oh dear.

Jackie Brown had likeable characters, great dialogue and an interesting storyline. Death Proof had a great premise but an awful execution with annoying characters, terrible dialogue and an ending that does obscene things to your suspension of disbelief. THAT is why Jackie Brown is more well regarded than Death Proof, by me at least. And I repeat, violence has nothing to do with it...

[–] Kruleworld 12 years ago

i wouldn't say deathproof needs more violence, i just think it needs less women sitting around chatting about nothing.

i don't know why, but this came to mind
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[–] hecantune 12 years ago

Total agreement. Cut those "round table discussions" way down and bring in more characters. No violence needed, just someone with a different pov and something to say that's actually worthwhile.

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[–] cat_gio 12 years ago

I wasn't really rating a movie, I was just asking which was more violent.

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[–] worldofbong 12 years ago

Violence for the sake of violence is pointless, Death Proof had plenty of violent scenes for its plot, to simply add 'moar violence' for the sake of some sadistic urge in the audience would've been pretty dumb imo, and totally missing the point.

or maybe not lol http://www.youtube.com/SunbeltRyders

[–] leegend_3004 11 years ago

Death Proof was more violent and more interesting than Jackie Brown, Jackie Brown, for me anyway, is Tarantino's worse movie by a long chalk. Kurt Russell made Death Proof a hell of a better movie than what it could have been, just a shame he was under used. You also have one of the most graphic and shocking crash scenes ever filmed(in my opinion)in Death Proof along with the great car chase at the end and the whole revenge thing with the girls going after stunt man mike. If there is one cult movie on tarantino's list of his work then Death Proof hits that mark on every level.

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[–] garriotts 11 years ago

Jackie Brown may have had more violent scenes, but I think the graphicness of the car crash scene in Death Proof stops it from being Tarantino's least violent. The murders in Jackie Brown were much less graphic. I like Death Proof, but Jackie Brown is a much better movie.

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[–] koffeenkreame41-1 10 years ago

Jackie Brown may have had more violent scenes, but I think the graphicness of the car crash scene in Death Proof stops it from being Tarantino's least violent. The murders in Jackie Brown were much less graphic. I like Death Proof, but Jackie Brown is a much better movie.

^^This.

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[–] Pogo_76 11 years ago

Oddly Tarantino thinks this is one of his worst while it's one of my favorite Tarantino movies just like Jackie Brown is while I hated Inglorious Basterds.

[–] stanleyhetz 8 years ago

Oddly Tarantino thinks this is one of his worst while it's one of my favorite Tarantino movies just like Jackie Brown is while I hated Inglorious Basterds.

I also love Death Proof (2007). It is actually my favorite Quentin Tarantino movie.