I just don't see how somebody can go from making a movie like "Dogma" to a crapfest like this. And why on earth did he cast Seth Rogen? This is a filmmaker who casted vurtual unknowns in almost all his other movies and had them turn out great, why try to bank off Rogen's Apatow-induced sucess? And Jeff Anderson who by the looks of it has retired from acting has apparantly chosen this to be his last movie....unbelieveable. Smith has apologized for "Mallrats" back in the 90's (which I loved), he should apologize 100 times over for this dreck, total waste of his talent.
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I actually liked this movie, but I can certainly understand your point, and it certainly doesn't seem like a Kevin Smith film. Smith covers this in "Too Fat for 40". He acknowledges that when he made this movie, he wasn't being true to himself. He was basically trying to make a Judd Apatow movie.
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I found the user review that perfectly sums up this movie. This guy hit the nail on the head so hard i swore for a second it was me who wrote it lol:
"Kevin Smith a complete sell out. If you liked his previous work (Clerks 1-2, Chasing Amy, Dogma, even Mallrats), don't go watch this (and don't listen to the idiots who tell you it's funny), you'll hate Kevin Smith after. None of his trademarks are there, no intricate and witty dialog, no original characters, just a big sack of BS and clichés. The movie was quickly thrown together, completely uninspired, and should be an utter disappointment for former (because if you liked his work, you will certainly not like him after this) fans. He sold out to the make the cliché Hollywood comedy, with the looser who proves himself and gets the cute girl because they were best friends and secretly loved each other. Hurray. The movie also incorporates the new stereotype of the fat black guy created by the Apato folly, which basically consists of a stupid black man who portrays every black stereotype ever seen in the media, with the addition of being fat of course. Contrarily to the Hooper X character, a well developed intelligent, homosexual African American, "uncliche" as I would prefer to say, this new image of the fat black man has found its commercial value, and is bound to be used in future Hollywood comedies because idiot audiences find it appealing to have a black imbecile portrayed on screen. If you are black, this should definitely offend you, because he is the only black man in this film. But taking this point aside, nothing in this movie is good, except for the fact you get to see a cameo of famous porn stars naked (like Naomi). Congratulations Kevin Smith, you have succeeded in proving to us once more that we all have a price. For the sake of whatever fans remain loyal to you after this, although in my opinion, there shouldn't be any, if you future inclinations lean towards BS films like this, please stop making films so we, your former fans, can have at least a decent memory of you."
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Kevin Smith a complete sell out. If you liked his previous work (Clerks 1-2, Chasing Amy, Dogma, even Mallrats), don't go watch this (and don't listen to the idiots who tell you it's funny)...
...and that's where I stopped reading. I've no time for users who insult others for having a different opinion.
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It came off more to me like a follower of Kevin's trying to make a film. I just didn't care for it, actually was repulsed by it in certain ways, which is rare for me.
maybe if you sat back, watched the movie, kept your mouth shut, had fun and just enjoyed the movie for what it is- A COMEDY MOVIE- then maybe you'd like it.
I don't judge a movie unless it's REALLY bad.
This movie wasn't the greatest but I thought it was cute and funny to watch! And a couple like Elizabeth and Seth isn't unrealistic!
I had tons of not-so-good looking guy and girl friends who got with someone WAY better than them!
Kevin explains the problems with this movie in one of his Q&A's (Too Fat for 40, I think). It was released on a terrible weekend first, but that wasn't the real issue. The problem with this movie is that you know the ending within the first 5 minutes. You can probably guess the plot from the title alone. It was predictable. Saying that, I think it has some funny jokes. I love Craig Robinson, I think he's a great comedian. I think Seth and Elizabeth did great jobs as well. But, Kevin Smith has a great explanation for why the movie failed. He really thought this was going to be his 'Apatow' flick, and it wasn't. He was so proud of it, and it bombed. That's devastating, but he reflected on it later and figured out what went wrong. He was trying too hard. He used to make movies that told stories about his life, and that ship has sailed. With this one, he was trying to write a comedy for the sake of comedy. It didn't have the heart that his original films had.
He likened it to a documentary about the Gretzky family he saw, where Wayne's father told him to go where the puck was going to be, not where the puck is. He realized that's what he did wrong with this movie, he went where the puck was, not where it was going. Essentially, he either wrote this movie too late in his career, or he shouldn't have done it at all... I prefer the former, because I still like the movie.
He's stated that he started on a trilogy and he's going out on a trilogy. Unfortunately Cop Out is the first in that trilogy, which he didn't write, he just directed, and I didn't like it. I found it to be a generic buddy cop movie that, again, lacked heart. I just didn't care about the characters, and I'm not a big Tracy Morgan fan. I think he's obnoxious. However, the 2nd in that trilogy is Red State... and I loved it. It's another movie where you either love it or hate it (same as his first movies). It definitely feels like a Kevin Smith movie, for the dialogue, but the way the plot keeps turning, it's so unpredictable, it's excellent. It's one of the best movies I've seen in years, and a great addition to the horror genre which I think is seriously lacking these days. He addressed his reasons behind this film and he wanted to make something that you couldn't predict in the first 10 minutes, like you could with Zack and Miri. And he accomplished that.
His next film (although he stated it'll be 2 films I believe) is something to do with hockey. I'm curious to see what it'll be about, but hopefully, whatever it is, he goes out with a bang. He believes he only has enough in him to one last great movie, and everything after that will be junk. I hope he changes his mind, but I'm still looking forward to whatever his last film(s) will be.
I just dont understand why Smith would be jealous or feel inferior to someone whos so below him (Apatow). You know, I always hear how "talented" and is "groundbreaking" Apatow and his crew are, theyre really not at all. They improvise their movies like crazy, I mean anyone can be funny after 30 different takes of the same scene, it takes someone who is TRUELY talented (Smith) to write witty and funny diolage that was in the script to begin with and direct the actor to make his words funny. I really dont understand why Smith is so underrated, perhaps its because his movies have big words and have plotlines about things like religion and such, I guess most moronic movie goers just wanna hear an endless list of sex jokes, thats all Apatow really has. Well that and "you look like" jokes, I heard about 20 of those in 40 Year Old Virgin from just Paul Rudd alone. Plus the casting of the Apatow regulars was so unessecary, I mean werent they practically everywhere already by that point? If he wanted to fight back against Apatow, he should have instead hired his usual bunch of unknown and underrated actors to headline his movie, or casted someone whos dropped off the map for a while and gave them another chance to shine, someone like Matthew Lillard or James Roday (from USA's Psych) comes to mind.
Most women dont bring you lasagna at work. They usually just cheat on you.