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Hard time believing this came from Smith

posted 14 years ago by southpole8700
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I just don't see how somebody can go from making a movie like "Dogma" to a crapfest like this. And why on earth did he cast Seth Rogen? This is a filmmaker who casted vurtual unknowns in almost all his other movies and had them turn out great, why try to bank off Rogen's Apatow-induced sucess? And Jeff Anderson who by the looks of it has retired from acting has apparantly chosen this to be his last movie....unbelieveable. Smith has apologized for "Mallrats" back in the 90's (which I loved), he should apologize 100 times over for this dreck, total waste of his talent.

Most women dont bring you lasagna at work. They usually just cheat on you.

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[–] aRealCoolGuy 14 years ago

This movie came out 2 months after Pineapple Express; I don't think Seth Rogen was actually famous yet..

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[–] southpole8700 14 years ago

Dude, everybody and their mother knew who Rogen was after the summer of 07', with his Knocked Up and Superbad....I don't care how much people love him, Kevin Smith and crew are just too good to work with him and the Apatow gang of idiots. He couldv'e made a completly different movie with someone like Jason Lee as the lead and I bet it wouldn't of bombed at box office as this one did.

Most women dont bring you lasagna at work. They usually just cheat on you.

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[–] aRealCoolGuy 14 years ago

...if you say so... but for the record, neither I nor my mother knew who he was back then... I saw him in Superbad and 40-Year-Old Virgin but he wasn't recognisable to me at the time... just another supporting actor..

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[–] phil-parsons 13 years ago

"Zack and Miri" didn't bomb at the box office - it just didn't make huge piles of money like Apatow's comedies have since "The 40 Year Old Virgin". It did the amount of business that Smith's films generally do. Smith has explained in more than one interview and in his lectures that if you can consistently produce modestly profitable films with small budgets then you'll keep getting studio support for your projects which is why he's had a career for 18 years. But, as he explains in "Too Fat for 40", he wanted "Zack and Miri" to be his huge $100 million blockbuster and was greatly disappointed that it did no better than his other flicks.

As much as I enjoy Jason Lee I can't imagine that casting him as Zack Brown would have boosted ticket sales.

"Hush Manson! I'm fixing dinner!"

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[–] Pumpkin-Jones 14 years ago

Kevin Smith ain't as good as you think he is.

Clerks was good
mallrats was crap
chasing amy was meh
dogma was pretty good
strike back had it's moments
clerks 2 should never have been made.
jersey girl? enough said
cop out?

i had a smith phase from about 1998 to about 2002. highschool into college, then you realize his directing is bad. is writing is somewhat better but is mostly like a foul mouthed episode of gilmore girls with fart jokes.

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[–] tigertodd 14 years ago

to each his own I guess

Clerks 2 is still my favorite of all of his movies

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[–] Hobbes47E 13 years ago

Seth Rogen, Elizabeth Banks, Craig Robinson... all known for their Apatow movies. Almost surprised Jonah Hill didn't pop up. Smith says he cast Rogen after seeing his movies and being a fan. That could be true. I think though the studio wanted Rogen cause it would be easier to sell the movie. And as for Rogen, he probably figured it'd look good on his resume to lead in a Smith movie.

I wish this movie was a View Askew 'verse movie starring the usual Jason Lee, Brian O'Halloran, even Affleck along with Jeff Anderson and Jason Mewes roles.

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[–] Paul_Ke 14 years ago

It seemed more like a Judd Apatow movie than a Kevin Smith film. If it weren't for the casting of some Kevin Smith regulars, you'd never even know it was a Kevin Smith film. I think Seth Rogen is the reason for the "Apatow" feel of the movie.

Having said all that, I really enjoyed it. But then I love Seth Rogen and Judd Apatow movies.

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[–] jabberttp 14 years ago

I think Seth Rogen is the reason for the "Apatow" feel of the movie.

Agree completely...

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[–] ShrunkenHeadonKnightBus 13 years ago

Kevin Smith admits that this film was him trying to write and "Apatow movie" in his Epix special Too Fat For 40.

Hey little train! We are all jumping on
The train that goes to the Kingdom

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[–] ciffou 13 years ago

It's an attempt to be Appatow but it turns out to be a sh*tty mediocre romantic comedy.
They keep on making fun of them eventually falling in love to end up doing just that. WTF? It's one of the worst movies I've seen in a while: the scene where the actors pay the bills, why didn't they do it on the first place? Why did they do the porno if they already had money? Was the movie ever out? It's just an idiotic waste of time.

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[–] TomWilhelm 13 years ago

The dialouge alone shows this is a KS movie ffs!

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[–] koffeenkreame41-1 10 years ago

The dialouge alone shows this is a KS movie ffs!

^^This.

"I'm the ultimate badass,you do NOT wanna f-ck wit me!"Hudson,Aliens😬

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[–] smdias65 13 years ago

I don't understand all the hating for this movie; I really enjoy it. It's not quite as touching as Clerks II, but the Rogen/Banks relationship moved me in the end. Craig Robinson had some great moments ("Can't you see we're talking, white?"). Justin Long and Brandon Routh were great. The others were all good as usual. I was a little surprised that Jason Lee and Ben Affleck didn't have at least cameos (like they did in Clerks II), but I'm sure they had other things going on. I'm glad to see that the movie has actually made money in the long run, despite the poor opening weekend.

Kevin Smith didn't actually apologize for Mallrats. Didn't he have a whole discussion about that in "An Evening with Kevin Smith 2?"

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[–] mechanoid 13 years ago

so you'd rather Smith not cast Rogen under the mentality that he's "too good".
It kinda sounds like you want smith to turn into a dick.

perhaps you should take in a James Cameron movie if you enjoy pretentious ass holes

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[–] gcarras 13 years ago

IF you WANNA complain about a current "Star" ehre, it's Elizabeth Banks, what with her appearing in "W" and about a hundred others at that time, fall 2008..!

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[–] musicinatin 13 years ago

i dint like this film, i sort of liked dogma, mallrats was ok when i was 13...

seth rogen did say on his first interview in hollywood that his goal was to star in a kevin smith movie, and after fame he stated that his goal hadnt changed, id say that was what got him the part

superbad was epic, and rogen wrote that fine work, i like rogen, i like knocked up, pineapple express was terrible, and so was green hornet

Get off my tractor!!

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[–] Bavarian 13 years ago

by - southpole8700 on Wed Mar 9 2011 15:36:45
I just don't see how somebody can go from making a movie like "Dogma" to a crapfest like this. And why on earth did he cast Seth Rogen? This is a filmmaker who casted vurtual unknowns in almost all his other movies and had them turn out great, why try to bank off Rogen's Apatow-induced sucess? And Jeff Anderson who by the looks of it has retired from acting has apparantly chosen this to be his last movie....unbelieveable. Smith has apologized for "Mallrats" back in the 90's (which I loved), he should apologize 100 times over for this dreck, total waste of his talent.

It must suck to be wrong.

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