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I gave 'Megamind' a 4 out of 5 instead of 5 out of 5 because of 'Titan'


Somehow I think the 'Titan' character ruined the comic tone toward the film's climax. Although Megamind was always up to mischief (sort of like a 'Wizard of Oz' charged as Youthful Offender), he never had murderous intentions (remember how surprised he was, when he thought he had killed Metroman). Titan, on the other hand, was one step away from killing Roxie, when he hurled the bus at her.

Before Hal was transformed into Titan, he was just a pathetic nerd, who said a few nasty things, after being rejected by Roxie. But once he became Titan, first he became a stalker and then eventually proclaimed that he was over his infatuation and was out to kill her. I realize that once he was injected, all of Hal's bad points were magnified to the point where he became a psychopath. But why was that? Why couldn't Hal remain the goofy nerd, even after Megamind injected him? Everything else in the movie was FUN, but once Titan turned into who he was, things weren't much fun anymore.

There needed to be an explanation in the script as to WHY Titan became a psychopath. Perhaps he encountered some kryptonite type substance that made him act that way or perhaps Minion used the wrong DNA when the formula was being prepared.

Ultimately, I think Hal got the short end of the stick here. Since Megamind was now in charge and could explain to everybody that HE was responsible for Hal's transformation, why should Hal end up in prison? It wasn't his fault that he was transformed into Titan.

Don't get me wrong, I liked 'Megamind' quite a bit, but psycho Titan just didn't fit in, without a better explanation!

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I don't understand all the misunderstanding with Hal. Actually I do. It's ignorance. If you were socially awkward, have difficulty adjusting, anxiety, and stressing out doing so, and disliked by people, and lonely, you'd go nuts and obsessed over a women because you can't get any. I am pretty sure if Hal was actually good looking and socially intelligent and successful like some of the normals, they could say, I don't know why you act like that.

I relate to Hal. And I think rather having us social awkward anxious neurotics, feeling guilt tripped, ostracized, and thrown away by society towards that we are even more abnormal, doesn't help at all. You can't understand until you live one's shoes, I don't think you should judge him despite his psychopathic tendencies. I guarantee it, if I had the looks the smarts the success, he wouldn't be all a putting his eggs in one basket. That what love/passion does to you.

Rather then try to change and pretend someone you're not I want people like me to embrace who you are. Because you will only hate and stress yourself with the person you can't try to be.

I am like a real life Hal. And learned to gain confidence by embracing my weaknesses and making it a strength. I think Hal was still the misunderstood anti-hero. Not saying his intentions were good or bad, but this is the problem with society. Too much judgement, very lack of understanding. Not saying we expect compassion but a little empathy.

I am pretty sure some people still won't get this pompous self-righteous attitude, but I advise for you all people who are like me to, not change, accept who you are, don't let these popular normal people get you down. Embrace abnormality. Screw changing it. Go Hal!

You will eventually find someone who understands, and if you don't *beep* 'em.

If you can get everything you want, I can understand why people could do more, but if you just struggle trying to do what most normal people do, it's understandable why there is a little me first attitude. It's ironic. You're outcasted, misfitted, then end up in jail. There's no escape aside from just embracing who you are.

Outcasts' come join me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZqREZBaRks

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This is like the teenage girls who posted how much they still loved the surviving Boston Marathon bomber. What you call "weaknesses" sometimes turns into criminal conduct. Hal was perfectly okay until he 'crossed the line' and engaged in criminal conduct. Once you do that, no one should have sympathy for you. Hopefully you'll never do anything to physically hurt people. If you do, then don't be surprised if the police one day come knocking on your door.

I sense your main problem is with women. What you call love/passion really is obsession, which of course is NOT COOL. I would suggest you read some books on how to be successful with women. That does not mean you have to indulge in 'psychopathic' tendencies. The key is to learn how to have a good conversation with women. Instead of asking women a lot of questions (like you're an investigator conducting a third degree), use descriptive language that paint PICTURES (stuff like "Boating in Central Park as a beautiful butterfly gently floats on to your arm, watching the incredible fireworks at the riverbank on the 4th of July, taking a spin class with your best friends at the health and racquet club...there are so many AWESOME things to do during the summer in the city." You'll never get anywhere if she thinks you're just tring to have sex with her. Women like romance. Use the cool, flowery language that paints pictures, and you'll definitely get somewhere.

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Honestly, I don't think Hal was ever a good-hearted, nice guy. He was really selfish. If he hadn't been injected with powers and just picked up a gun when he saw Roxanne kissing another guy, would anyone REALLY be surprised? I don't think he really cared about her-he only cared about what HE wanted...and he wanted her "because she was pretty".

Selfish people with power are dangerous.

"But it's a ROCK!"
"I KNOW IT'S A ROCK!"

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Hal also struck me as being a poorly written character. It didn't feel right that he had murderous intent. The script forced him into the role of villain. Are we supposed to believe that he wants to be socially disirable to Roxanne, but when he gets the chance to be disirable to a whole city, he has lost interest? That doesn't seem right.

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I agree. Initially it seems as if the screenwriters wanted to make him kind of charming. But as they went along, they made him into a psychopath. The complete opposite of Megamind.

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"There needed to be an explanation in the script as to WHY Titan became a psychopath. Perhaps he encountered some kryptonite type substance that made him act that way or perhaps Minion used the wrong DNA when the formula was being prepared."


I know this is an old thread and A LOT of people already tried to answer you. I just wanted to add that I watched this movie after hearing about how good the movie was in it's characterization of Hal and his 'Nice Guy'-syndrome. I think the movie was spot on the whole way through on showing us exactly why Hal was a horrible person. He was never just a "just a pathetic nerd", rather he was a nerd AND a bad person. Letting old ladies get robbed rather than him. Rejecting an opportunity to help others (become a hero) so that he could pursue a girl who was never interested in him. It had nothing to do with the serum.

Also he was already basically stalking Roxie, having a picture of her on his wall for example. He had no real concept of what she did or didn't like as a person: he tries to invite her to a party with a bouncy castle (which he probably finds cool), but he has no idea what kind of parties she would like. He tells her that the very first thing she says is corny, something that she has written and prides herself in. He is obsessed by the idea of her, rather than her as a person - classic stalker behavior.

If the gender roles were reversed he would have been the classic "woman scorned" or "rabbit boiler" trope. Think about it.

Some links about Hal being a Nice Guy:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1001526/board/nest/173759327
*beep*
http://thatfilthyanimal.tumblr.com/post/89969259257/ohfantasyworld-meg amind-bad-guy-vs-nice
http://lvcproductions.tumblr.com/post/93730572503/megamind-has-quite-a -few-feminist-messages

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I don't disagree with your analysis of Hal. He's a bad guy from the beginning. But that's the problem. Unlike Megamind, he has no shades of grade. Megamind has a dark side but he's also charming. Why can't Hal be that way? Instead, they've made him into a complete, unpleasant sinister character (a "stalker" as you put it), designed to be defeated by the forces of good. That turns "Megamind" (at least in the second half) into pretty much standard melodrama. The fun is kind of lost. If the writers insisted on keeping Hal so mean, then soften the blow by giving him an excuse: yes he was injected with a serum that turned him into such a creepy psychopath. My point is that the Hal character as he's depicted here, is too unlikeable to be part of the fun, Megamind universe. The character gives the story an unpleasant taste. Either give him some complexity or provide an explanation for his unpalatable maneuvers!

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