Does Frank Miller have a problem..

Ebony White was part of the Spirit Mythos. And was black.

Taken out, Octopus is changed from a faceless figure to a menacing scary black man.

In a Nazi uniform.

Its really weird.

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In a fair universe, we would all be better people.

Gail was a positive black character in Sin City (insofar Sin City has actual positive characters that is).

There is nothing wrong with beeing a racist, not everyone can be as bright and shiny as you. Dink.

There aren't any positive white characters in his movies either, you mental midget. But I'm sure that disrupts you and Sirus' whoa-is-me, race-card pulling, victims-mentality agenda you've dreamed up. Yeah, we get it; poooor, poor black people! EVERYONE is against you and you can't catch a break! The evil white Devils in this country are always trying to bring you down because they have nothing better to do! Gimme a *beep* ing break. Smh, you guys are an embarrassment to the black race. Go do something with your life and you won't sit around thinking up new ways to pull a race card outa your stinkhole.

Actually its a running theme with him regarding how he views women. Perhaps he had a painful divorce.

The Dark Knight returns, Catwomen. Slinky , empowered . Gets turned into a brothel owner who is gagged and beaten by the Joker.

All the women in the Sin City novels, prostitues, strippers or relying on their sex and men for position.

Catwomen Year one, According to Miller she isnt a suavy socialte thief. She's a S and M prostitue who gets beaten up a couple of times.

He removes Ebony White , a positve black character from the movie . Maybe because he cant write positive black characters.

His run on Daredevil when Luke Cage guest starred he portrayed him as some sort of black thug.

So yeah, he does have an issues.


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In a fair universe, we would all be better people.

Part of the issue is Miller's inspirations. He has stated that he was and is a huge fan of crime fiction, particularly hardboiled stuff like Spillane, James M. Cain (Postman Always Rings Twice, Double Indemnity) and Jim Thompson. He is a fan of film noir. He gained great success adapting the templates of those works into comics, particularly Daredevil and Batman, both of which centered around urban environments and had past histories with darker villains (more Batman than Daredevil, prior to Miller). Those films and novels are filled with femme fatales a double crosses, with few redeeming characters. Sin City was the culmination of that love. Eisner is one of his artistic heroes, but aside from borrowing some of Eisner's technical innovations (cinematic layouts, splash pages, noir lighting) he seems mostly drawn to the femme fatales. Ebony White was a racial charicature and disappeared from the comic, mostly, after a while. He could have been updated, but I think Miller cared more about getting the femme fatales on the screen. His version of the Octopus could have been anyone, with the same over-the-top costuming. I wouldn't assign racist attitudes based on that, but would say he isn't particularly sensitive to those issues.

Having read much of his work, ethnic minorities aren't well represented, beyond background characters, but the first rule of writing is write what you know. Perhaps he doesn't feel he can write authentic minority characters and does so sparingly. With that said, his Martha Washington does fly in the face of much of the arguments listed so far. She is a heroic character and portrayed in a positive light, while coming from a fairly authentic background. there are inconsistencies, but it is a satire and reality is bent quite a bit.

I don't know the guy, so who knows about his real beliefs and personality. I do know that much of his work after Dark Knight has a rather nasty streak, even in its humor. perhaps that was the real Frank coming through, perhaps it is his literary influences and he isn't comforatble outside of those realms.

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."-Groucho

Prisons are filled with 60% from the black community containing convicted felons. Maybe he's going by the numbers.

BTW, the ancient Persians were Black and I'm glad that was shown in a major Hollywood movie that enlightened millions of viewers of that fact.

Does FM have a problem? Are you kidding? The guy has lost his mind in recent years. His work up to the early 90's is great, but he is a major right-wing racist scumbag today. Just google 'frank miller racist' and see what comes up.