If object don't work in the room, why do you need the key to exit? In the room the key is just a key.
Which of course means that Anna was not rapped in the room and Joe would have no motivation to look for the prime object.
who unlocks a door from the inside, except for a deadlock? Most motel rooms would have the button or switch-turning things in the centre (not sure how locks worked waaaaaay back then before my time). If you actually locked the door this way, most automatically unlock when you turn the knob.
Anna had already proved to Joe that something placed in the room would disappear if the door was closed and reopened (she must notta loved many of her stuffed animals). It is only the Objects (those in the room during the "event") that survive - that's how they get the clock out of the safe - the safe disappears and the clock is in its original place; and also the comb - all of the other combs disappear and they find it in the bathroom cabinet, which is where it was during the event.
If you pay attention in the first episode, he never uses the key to open the door from the inside, he just opens it. In fact, going back through the episodes, I noticed multiple times where you can see that he doesn't use the key to open it.
You're right, Anna was not trapped in the room at all. She went somewhere else when the room re-set. It is possible that, given enough time, she would have opened the door and stepped out into the real world anywhere she chose. However, the other guy re-opened the door immediately, effectively "re-setting" the room. I've only seen disc 1 so far, so I don't yet know the implications of this "other place" she went to.
As to the post about breaking the window and climbing out, I would bet that the room itself is unbreakable, just like the objects, making it impossible to go out the window. Nice idea though.
It seems silly to question the premise though, it is a perfect McGuffin.
About Anna:
I don't think she's in a room, she's nowhere. Once the door is closed the room resets. Everything that was in the room at the time of The Event goes to the location and they were in when it happened. If something wasn't in the room, it is "thrown away" somewhere else.
They seemed to say that both the wife and Anna were not in the room but in a tear in reality. However, the wife seemed to be in horrible agony (perhaps only when the rip in reality is opened) while Anna was in a white misty place and didn't seem to know how much time had passed.
Krutzfield also went into a white misty place with what looked like his son. Why dead people go to the room is beyond me unless Krustfield went to a reality where his son was still alive. Maybe Krutzfield was dead in that reality which is why the son was startled and backed up when he saw him (plus him suddenly having one blue eye).
I personally love just thinking that the event is something that we can't even truly conceive of because it involves the true nature of reality--not only the bits that we are capable of perceiving. I visualize it like some one had come along, pulled back a lock of reality's hair and snipped it off. The lock of hair still exists, and all the little hairs that were cut are open conduits to other dimensions.
Like a black hole or something.
Nahh if you think about it, the room is the prime object and Anna is still there because she would need the right object (key) to open the door. It is not a normal room so it does not open normally either.
Oh, come on! Is there logic in magic? If you have to suspend disbelief to enjoy the show, how is it so hard to imagine an exception to a rule? In a story involving magical or mystical elements, you lay out the rules and then proceed to develop the story based on those rules. If you defy the rules you made, that is a problem. But if you stick to the rules, however contrived, there is not problem. It's silly to try to apply logic to it.
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Most of you are way overthinking this. You DO NOT need the key to exit the room. Joe never uses the key to get out, he just opens the door. He tells Harold that you need the key in order to scare him. If you watch Jennifer she opens the door at least two times without the key and leaves to wherever she wants.
The problem with Ana is that the room is reset while she is in it and so she goes to some sort of limbo place.
I don't know if the key needs to be in the room to open the door or not, but I do know you don't need to use the key, or even be holding it, to open the door from the inside of the motel room.
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Exactly. The one stipulation nobody remembers is that the room only resets if the door is closed and the key is not inside it! This way, since she was thrown in without the key and the door shut, she was reset.
The only REAL problem of logic is if they have this all powerful key that will open any door, why did they waste their time going to a Penn State game? Why not do something more worthwhile like, say, going to a Georgia game? It's only logical.
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The room doesn't reset when the door is closed and the key is outside. It's only reset when the key turns in the lock.
This is evident in the ending: Joe is inside and Jennifer is outside with the key. He's still there, talking to himself, until she turns the key, at which point there's a white light (indicating that the room is reset) and Anna comes back.
I'm curious as to why the manifestation of Kreutzfeld's son didn't disappear after Kreutzfeld went into the motel room. The power of the quarter should have been nullified as soon as he went in.
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On Kreutzfeld's son--
He appeared not because the dead hang out in Room 10, but because Kreutzfeld swallowed the quarter and recreated the memory.
He didn't immediately disappear in the Room, I think, because Kreutzfeld had set up all the extra Objects for his little physics experiment. Those likely upset the usual balance, and allowed for the rules to be broken.
"He didn't immediately disappear in the Room, I think, because Kreutzfeld had set up all the extra Objects for his little physics experiment. Those likely upset the usual balance, and allowed for the rules to be broken."
Did he set anything up? I didn't see that. By my understanding, all objects were nullified when in the room, which is why the collectors' experiment involved them nailing the objects to the outer door. That said, you could be right since there are a lot of unanswered questions... but this is the only thing to me that seemed like a flub rather than a loose end.
Who says you need the key to exit?
Oh, yeah, the protagonist.
But then again, he was just lying to keep Wally from fleeing. Take a look at the tone he uses, and the knowing stare when he says "You will immediately drop dead".
We know that HE himself has no way of knowing this, so he just made it up to manipulate.
Now, for Anna, her case is different. She did not enter with the key. She was "reset".