Was the PENIS scene necessary?


I think the movie could have been more popular without the PENIS scene and references.

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No i don't think it was necessary at all, but then again, i found it quite refreshing actually seeing a guys gen's in a movie, with all the boobs and what not flying around these days.

It also changed how i "saw" the movie. It changed from a normal fluffy-romantic movie, to the more real kind.

Anyways, i don't necessarily 'like' to see a dude dick -i WAS like "AWW dude, comeon!", but sometimes it makes sense. It was funny in an awkward way and i think it fit the movie.

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I conclude that with respect to 'nekkidity' and sexuality in the movies and in real life we "Americans" are the most neurotic people in the whole world. ("Eww! A penis!" "Whoa! A 'dude dick'") - What the hell, friends?

Nobody's gotta like or not like the dick shot in any film. It's only a human penis, dammit! Just shut up and enjoy the movie!... Sheet! [smiles]

John Martin, 47, Homo

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It's a simple ignorant but true thing. Show it once, it's funny. Show it more then once and then it becomes gay.

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I didnt think it was needed but it was great and it just added that much more comedy to the film. I always thought that if you can show a woman completely naked in film why not a man? We see boobs all the time in movies, i think its about time they start showing the penis without shame like in this film. Totally worth it, I'm glad the double standard is being dealt with.

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Oh grow up it's just a d#ck. Seriously, I'm a hetero guy and we all have d#cks, yeah, obviously I'd not put a weiner in my movie if I were making one, but really, what are people so uncomfortable with? I just avert my eyes, problem solved. Not like there wasn't plenty of female nudity to compensate.

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This big homo remembers the film "Short Cuts*," a good movie by the way, from about 1992 or 1993. I remember a great scene between two of the male and female stars in a particular scene and the woman's "pussy" (excuse me, for lack of a better term) was plainly visible while she was ironing her garment that had suddenly become wet while her drunken husband (Matthew Modine?) was appalled that her [vagina] was plainly visible. What, man? You can't handle the sight of your own wife's vaginal area and bush? I remember that I was not at all shocked or appalled. This homo man placed it in the persective of the story and it was OK! It was even rather beautiful as it occurred between a "husband" and a "wife." What was his problem? [smiles]

There is nothing wrong or nasty or bad or pornographic or shameful or embarrassing about a human penis and balls unless the "visual" intends it to be so or unless the viewer sees it as such.

Will anyone dare to speak of "size" now?

Peace To All!
John Martin, 47, Proud Homo American.

*"Short Cuts" was a fine film directed by the late award winning director, Robert Altman. It had many "stars" in it.

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I absolutely love the PENIS scene.

Personally I think men should be naked more often in films; I'm tired of always seeing just women in the nude.

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Nudity as something inappropriate, that should be censored is so idiotic.

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Zauberer (Sun May 31) said: "There really have been a lot of nude men in movies. Walk Hard came out like a year before, for example."
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Zauberer, Please tell us, "nude men" aside, was "Walk Hard" a good and memorable movie like "Forgetting Sarah Marshall"?

What is the final conclusion as to whether the "PENIS scene" was necessary in FSM?

John Martin, Dedicated Homo

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Was the PENIS scene necessary?

Yes.

What's the big deal? He showed his dick very quickly a few times. Get over it.

I wish I was more attractive, like Dagless.
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Films can be made without showing a man's genitals. Reactions of those on film who are seeing it can give you the impression as to what is happeneing. Implying what isn't seen can be just as effective as an "in your face" nude shot.

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Films can be made without showing a man's genitals. Reactions of those on film who are seeing it can give you the impression as to what is happeneing.

Of course they could have done it without actually showing his man bits, but what is the big deal? It's only a penis. Every man has one. And any female old enough to be watching this has surely seen a few dongs before. But what about all the bare breasts in the movie? They show far more t*ts than they did d*cks. Why aren't you complaining that the film could've been made without showing them?


I wish I was more attractive, like Dagless.
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These latest posts are very imformative for our time. Thank you both, timkimmel1974 and SweetHenrietta! [smiles]

tim, the idea that a man's dick must never be shown in a movie is a backward idea. Showing a human penis is not necessarily a titillating idea. Human penises are always there regardless whether they're "ready" for a sexual experience or not. I am a lifelong homosexual man and I have always understood that concept, if I never understood anything else.

SweetHenrietta, Your post is to the point: "Was the penis scene necessary?" Why was the "penis scene" unnecessary, I want to ask? I am a dedicated homo. I liked the character of Peter Bretter because he was a good man and not for anything else. I even didn't see the movie until lately so that I could talk about the "dick" concept without prejudice.

I still don't understand the end when "Bretter" was nude on the phone and the really cool new girlfriend(?) walks in on him and he (gasp!) covers his genitals up stuff.

I am a gay man and I am not at all disgusted by fully nude women on film. I don't understand why hetero- men declare that they are completely offended by the sight of a fully nude man on film.

Peace,
John Martin, 47, Homo

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SweetHenritta- It is true that breasts have been shown. The questioni I am posing is why aren't they showing as much full female frontal nudity as full male frontal nudity? In fact, just by your comments that they just show a lot of breasts, you are admitting that they show very little full female frontal nudity. If they can show the male this way then why not show the female that way too? And, if you are interested in true equality, are you making such statements on the message boards of the many films within the last two years that contain male frontal nudity only ? However, the bottom line is neither need to exposed. But, if they choose too, let's at least have equality in exposure.
I also would like to pose another question. Do you think that today's movie goers are unable to use their imagination as much as those in the past ? There once was a time when people had to rely on the radio and then develop characters and places in their mind. Then films came along and that was no longer needed because everything could be seen on the large screen. With the internet and the ability to see all the nudity you could want, is it time to start not showing it in films and instead leave it to the imagination of the viewer ? Implying can have a very exciting effect when presented properly. Personally, I would prefer to start seeing films that do this and push you to use your imagination. However, until someone decides to try it, I feel it is important to have as much full female frontal nudity as male frontal nudity.

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Men and women are nude sometimes in real life so nudity, including "PENIS" scenes, are necessary in movies about life, too. So there! [smiles]
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timkimel1974 (thu Jun 11 07:38) said "... I would like to pose another question. Do you (SweetHenrietta) think that today's movie goers are unable to use their imagination as much as those in the past?"

timkimel1974, Actual nudity is not a bad thing so nobody needs to use his or her imagination about it, really. Certainly, we will never all walk around naked but we are naked in our private lives and that is what the movie was trying to show. The argument some people can't seem to handle the sight of Segal's genitals during that serious breakup scene is just nonsense. It was a human flaccid penis, it was not an erect, ready for sexual activity, penis. What's the problem, otherwise?

And the argument that women must spread their vulva open in mainstream movies for "equal time" is nuts. Frontal nudity is frontal nudity, regardless of the "parts" that one can see. [smiles]

Peace,
John Martin, 47, Homosexual American Man

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I disagree, I'm a straight male and I think the penis scene was absolutely hilarious! Just think about it: take every breakup scene from every bad romantic comedy ever, add a penis, and BAM! It's hilarious! That's why I find it funny.

We all deserve to die. Even you, Mrs. Lovett, even I.

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