This movie was an insult to human intelligence. - The Losers (2010) Discussion

[–] lonmonster 15 years ago

Wow. Get over yourself, buddy. This movie didn't take itself half as seriously as you apparently do.

Fight Club and Reservoir (not Resorviour) Dogs are your examples of character development and story? Yawn.

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[–] joshzancan 15 years ago

While I agree with the opinion about the OP, Fight Club had fine character development, and Reservoir Dogs was pretty much all character development. What are you yawning at?

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[–] lonmonster 15 years ago

I'm yawing because I'm bored by film school sophomores constantly putting Reservoir Dogs and Fight Club on some pedestal, comparing movies like The Losers, which has nothing to do with either one of those movies, to them.

You might as well say, "I can't believe a movie like The Losers gets made! What happened to movies with real comedy? Like Some Like It Hot? Gone are those days. What piece of crap The Losers is."

I'm passed yawning, though, I'm going to take a nap.

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[–] Lazer6eam 15 years ago

Hey hey, don't be getting the wrong idea out there now...Some Like It Hot, Fight Club, Reservoir Dogs...all excellent movies. But yeah, it can get annoying when pretentious self-dubbed film critics keep relentlessly comparing other movies to them.

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[–] mark_st 15 years ago

I’m not implying that all movies should have the same calibre as Reservoir Dogs and Fight Club, that would be unrealistic, neither I’m a some film school student or snob critic...

All I’m asking (considering I payed to watch the film) for at least some effort from the writers to incorporate a certain quality of originality into the story, instead of using the same old cliché plot and character development.

If they at least attempt to do something as outlandish as that, it won’t seem like I’m watching the same fecking film over and over again. Is this so much to ask for?

Have the writers in Hollywood really got a lot riding on them if they actually use their brain cells?

This is why I get annoyed with people when they argue “the movie is just some cheap mindless fun and that I shouldn’t take it so seriously” because all I hear is “moo moo” from a bunch of cattle who have been conditioned by this banal *beep* for too long!

All they do is feed the machine and marginalize the talent so that we are left with the mediocre *beep* that’s pumped out of Hollywood’s ass!

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[–] RottenBeauty 15 years ago

Oh for goodness sake, grow up. There are various forms of entertainment. You were going to an action movie which was set up to be one of those 'fun blockbuster' movies from the get go. BEFORE you go and watch a film and then bitch about it maybe you should actually do a little research on a film.

This is why I get annoyed with people when they argue “the movie is just some cheap mindless fun and that I shouldn’t take it so seriously” because all I hear is “moo moo” from a bunch of cattle who have been conditioned by this banal *beep* for too long!

Yeah . . . you're um, you're a real unique snow-flake.

Feed me a stray cat.

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[–] lonmonster 15 years ago

Anyone arguing for originality at the same relating audiences to cattle should definitely learn the dialogue between the pot and the kettle. You might as well have said, "they should really learn to think outside the box!"

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[–] mark_st 15 years ago

You have dissected one lousy sentence of mine out of context, missing the point of my post entirely! What I mean is that “audiences” have become too passive towards mediocrity.

It’s not a matter of “thinking outside the box”, it’s a matter of using basic cognitive reasoning to realise that the entire plot of this film has been recycled over and over again as with a lot of Hollywood movies being released at the box office at the moment.

Insert supermodels and bombs and explosions with a really done to death plot and voila, we have a Box Office hit! *beep* simple.

But oh, I must be some “delicate snow flake” for pointing that out! Jeez, give me a *beep* break...

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[–] lonmonster 15 years ago

Yeah, I get your point, it's not a very difficult or original one. The idea here is that The Losers just did the familiar genre with a different style and energy. That's it. You either like the genre movie with the style, or you don't. You obviously didn't like the style. I did, so I could get passed the fact that it was a genre movie.

Just stop making gigantic generalizations like how people are farm animals, writers are all morons, and no one had brains making this movie.

This movie isn't the end of the world. It doesn't even represent what you're arguing for, due to its style. Take your grievances to the Walking Tall boards.

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[–] RottenBeauty 15 years ago

^ This. It has been happening for a long time, it's not like The Losers did anything that hasn't been done before them. There is nothing wrong with enjoying a predictable movie, the same as say . . . if I went to see a romantic comedy, I know exactly what to expect, but that doesn't mean I won't enjoy it. Familiarity breeds comfort. That does not mean the people who enjoyed it are stupid or have no appreciation of good film.

Feed me a stray cat.

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[–] mark_st 15 years ago

As much as you dislike my discerning argument here...these responses have done nothing more but prove my point further! They even categorically identify with the “gigantic” generalisations I have made, which is sort of ironic.

Describe it anyway you want, “it’s a genre film with a certain style”, that still does not justify the fact that the entire premise of this film was thought out in the same manner as a paint by numbers picture.

Where is the *beep* style in that? There no substance or style! What it boils down to is big explosions with a bunch of supermodels on screen and if that’s the style you enjoy, then your about as passive as a dog that’s just been shown a new card trick!

Familiarity breeds comfort, exactly my point! Mediocrity will always prevail, and those fat producers will be laughing their asses off all the way to the bank because they can count on the fact that you take comfort in familiarity!

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[–] RottenBeauty 15 years ago

You can't prove an opinion, which is all you've got. It is a juvenile one at that. Everyone takes comfort in familiarity, just because a movie makes you 'think' doesn't mean it's not familiar, just because a movie is different doesn't mean it's good. Take for example . . . Donnie Darko, people LOVE that movie and yet I sat there with my mouth open at the end of it going 'HOW is this famous?' to me it was the most overrated piece of poor acting, poor scripting I had seen in a long time.

Fight Club, which you praise as a favourite . . . to me, that film was saved for being boring only by it's provoking ending (and Edward Norton's superior acting abilities). To me, it was a glorified boxing movie and I had already seen that kind of ending when I read 'Secret Window, Secret Garden', although it was the first time I had seen it in film. Until the ending it was just a bunch of macho posturing and a sad, sad reflection of the male mentality.

However, if I stated that I believed anybody who enjoyed it was dumb enough to not realise they were being force fed *beep* for nigh 2 hours and that only someone pretentious enough to find it noteworthy were those who were easily pleased by shock value and little to no real character development, would I be right?

Don't act like you are not a victim of familiarity breeding comfort, after a while was was original is not original anymore, if it even ever truly was. Quentin Tarantino films, you can always tell when you are watching one.

If you think the movies you watch are immune to paint by numbers then I'm sorry to say . . . you're just not clued in enough. At least the Losers was honest about it. It didn't promise us anything different, we didn't expect anything different but when you're not in the mood to be depressed or you are looking for a film to see with a group of people with diverse tastes it's not bad. If you are looking for artistic focus and deeper, divided subplots that eventually culminate into the bigger picture in a shocking explosion . . . then what the hell were you doing paying money to go see the Losers.

If fat producers are laughing it's because people like you STILL go and see *beep* that you know you will hate. Sounds a bit like cattle to me.

Feed me a stray cat.

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[–] Bacon_Statham 15 years ago

I don't see how this movie was an insult to human intelligence. Also comparing this to Fight Club and Reservoir Dogs makes you seem like a *beep* idiot. If anything this movie is like The A-Team (which I also enjoyed).

Both of them are films where you can shut off your brain, kick back, relax and just enjoy a crazy, messed up action movie. Also it's a comic book movie which never take themselves seriously. So quit whining about it and just let other people enjoy it.

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[–] mark_st 15 years ago

Listen, I understand it's almost impossible to come up with a highly revered and unique story that’s never been written before or something that’s truly original in every sense of the meaning. Although it would be something I would like to see, it’s not what I’m asking for.

However, being excessively familiar with the Losers character development and plot (or none at all for that matter) isn’t really a subjective opinion of mine; I think we can all agree that the movie is generic as they come! That’s what I call mediocrity!

The writers didn’t either have enough common sense or exertion to at least attempt to shape the film where the characters are not so one dimensional...e.g. the clichéd Bond villain.

I understand the movie wasn’t trying to take its self so seriously, but it didn’t have the wit or the intelligence to do so, not to mention there were absurd plot holes and other aspects that just generally didn’t make any sense. E.g. Yellow Humvees just turning up out of nowhere or what’s her face firing a *beep* Bazooka. Gee I betch ya all enjoyed seeing the fireworks now let’s all go watch the Dukes of Hazards!

Now don’t get me wrong, this is a great film to introduce to your 8 year old kid who hasn’t yet formed a rational or inquisitive mind about the universe, but for *beep* adults to be diverted by this sort of garbage, now that is a sad reflection of our society.

Fight Club, which you praise as a favourite . . . to me, that film was saved for being boring only by it's provoking ending (and Edward Norton's superior acting abilities). To me, it was a glorified boxing movie and I had already seen that kind of ending when I read 'Secret Window, Secret Garden', although it was the first time I had seen it in film. Until the ending it was just a bunch of macho posturing and a sad, sad reflection of the male mentality.

However, if I stated that I believed anybody who enjoyed it was dumb enough to not realise they were being force fed *beep* for nigh 2 hours and that only someone pretentious enough to find it noteworthy were those who were easily pleased by shock value and little to no real character development, would I be right?

Ok fair enough, you’re entitled to your opinion about Fight Club being boring or whatever, although it would seem to me you didn’t quite understand it or grasp the underlying themes, which was fairly evident throughout the whole film.

You see, the irony of Fight Club is that Tyler Durden set out to create a revolution, to revolt against a controlled society that strangles the life out of the characters, leaving them with nothing but mundane tasks such as consuming trivial products or any other activity that compliments capitalism.

What Tyler Durden set out to destroy in doing so actually created another form of a controlled society! Do you see the irony? So all that macho posturing was in fact a sad reflection of the male mentality, so you’re absolutely right!
Yet ironically you missed the entire point of the film!

You see? You’re not forced to find entertainment from the macho posturing (I certainly wasn’t) you can easily despise it at the same time but still get lost in the plot of the film. So as a matter of fact, I find that aspect of your opinion invalid or not worth listening to because you failed to actually understand the film.

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[–] RottenBeauty 15 years ago

It's always people like you who claim that people 'don't understand' the film. It wasn't rocket science here, it wasn't even as hard to understand or follow as Donnie Darko. I can UNDERSTAND things AND dislike them, I'm very versatile that way. I did not in any way MISS the point of the film, I feel the point was dwarfed by horrible characters and shock value. In this film I felt that Edward Norton gave what I believe to me the second best performance of his career, but the movie felt forced to me.

The whole movie was a metaphor and commentary on societal emasculation which was commonly felt by all the characters, no matter how minor they were. I felt while many movies talk about a dystopian future, fight club basically treated current capitalistic society as a dystopia. While I recognise that the violence in the movie was meant to be an avenue for 'feeling' which the characters felt they could get in no other place in such a one minded consumer driven world, the whole thing to me . . . was very unbelievable and that took me out of the story and left me feeling bored. Fight club was always fascism without any real direction or goal, which worked for some people but didn't work for me.

It is very arrogant and childish to assume that anybody who didn't enjoy this movie didn't understand it.

Feed me a stray cat.

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[–] mark_st 15 years ago

Until the ending it was just a bunch of macho posturing and a sad, sad reflection of the male mentality.

I was mainly referring to that sentence of yours because it seemed like such a generalised and absent minded response to the film. Like I said before, your entitled to your opinion about the film being boring or whatever as I wasn’t criticising you for that.

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[–] RottenBeauty 15 years ago

You are entitled to your opinion, and you are completely allowed to feel however you want about any movie, but making half baked generalisations about the people that enjoy it is something that should not be encouraged.

Feed me a stray cat.

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[–] DamianScottSpecOpsPimp 15 years ago

Gotta be honest here bud, your entire post is a generlized and absent minded response to a movie that isn't a unique little snowflake.

It's good to see a film arouse such emotion in a person that they need to argue for days on an internet forum about it. I think the directors succeeded.

PS, its Generalized, otherwise uk.imdb is ---> that way.

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[–] RottenBeauty 12 years ago

They are the same forums.

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[–] jostockjessica 12 years ago

literally the more i read the more i laugh.
what the *beep* does the universe have to do with watching and relaxing to an action flick
Do you take this big of an analytic approach to everything. i imagine brushing your teeth must be hard. you have to question whether you are just following the herd. seriously get over yourself.

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[–] jostockjessica 12 years ago

Rotten beauty I love you for writing this.

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[–] RottenBeauty 12 years ago

Hah, thank you. I wrote things here long ago and am happy to see I still agree with my stated opinions.

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[–] jostockjessica 12 years ago

Also you do know they spent more than they actually made right. It wasn't like this was some ginormous hit. And I think you're missing the point.
Yes we are all agreeing this wasn't some unique original masterpiece, it wasn't meant to be, it's a blockbuster film for *beep* sake. We are also all agreeing it brings a certain comfort to the audience to have something familiar. However what we disagree on is the fact that you are all high and mighty and think that the fact that people can indulge in a 2 hour unoriginal comforting movie means they are someone mindless and mediocre. No it simply means they want to relax for two *beep* hours.
*beep* sake, my dad's a god damn microbiologist and he enjoyed this movie. Watching a movie has no relation to intelligence and if you think so you might strain your neck by looking down at everyone.

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[–] Spixe 15 years ago

Here here. Op really needs to realize he's not the center of the universe. They do not make movies to please JUST YOU, they make it to please the masses. I liked it, and the 'majority' of movie-goers liked it. That's what matters. Hell, I guess I'm a shallow farm animal, but I hope they continue to make movies that "please the masses" because that's exactly what I like. So I could give a flying fandangle about OPs opinion, except it showed me he very self absorbed. Good movie, glad I watched it, hope they make more like this, if not for me, then just to piss off the OP and others like him a little bit more and make them realize their arrogant opinions are not so important. :)

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[–] airfaith 9 years ago

"Anyone arguing for originality at the same relating audiences to cattle should definitely learn the dialogue between the pot and the kettle"

1. i thought you where going to take a nap? seems you didnt so you where just trolling, like a child would, helps your argument how exactly?

2. asking for originality in a movie and calling your typical movie going audience who lap it up cattle have no relation to each other at all....

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[–] patrick-782-678023 15 years ago

I've delayed registering on this site and kept opinions to myself but this quote of yours here Mark_st

"All I’m asking (considering I payed to watch the film) for at least some effort from the writers to incorporate a certain quality of originality into the story, instead of using the same old cliché plot and character development"

You ask the writers and directors to come up with better films, and people like myself are stupid just for enjoying a pointless movie just for ...wait for it.... my entertainment.

Yet you haven't even taught yourself how to spell "paid", instead you spell it "payed". Now before you go on telling everyone how stupid we are for enjoying a odd but just entertaining movie, maybe just maybe help yourself a little bit before complaining about other writers and their films.

I decided to omit the rest of your post because that one very simple unfortunate spelling mistake from someone who has such strong opinons about a movie. Problem with people like you these days on IMDB is you all expect movies as if they are real life. Have you forgotten movies are fiction, not real at all. They are made for our entertainment.

People like you still go out and pay to see films like this and still come home, log onto IMDB and complain how stupid we are. I think you should have watched the movie trailer, it says a lot about the type of film it is. Fact it is comic book style movie and you are comparing to other movies, c'mon bud. I think you took the movie more serious then the movie was itself.

IMDB has changed over the last couple of years. Unfortunate

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[–] mark_st 14 years ago

patrick -

"I decided to omit the rest of your post because that one very simple unfortunate spelling mistake from someone who has such strong opinons about a movie."

Holy Jesus Christ! I cannot stand people like *beep* Patrick - the all knowing grammar Overlord! You are the WORST kind of person on the internet, possibly worse than trolls, pedophiles and stalkers. I'm that serious. Why? Because you are so quick to catch me out on a spelling error - "mwahahaha you spelled paid incorrectly, you are inferior to me because I'm the grammar Overlord mwahahah" - yet you spell opinion as "opinons", you hypocritical dumb-ass scumbag! Who the *beep* made you a grammar police officer?

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[–] patrick-782-678023 14 years ago

You really are a fool kid. Keep it up. I believe i know how to spell opinions. Problem was a keyboard error. I didn't spell opinions "Opinyons" So when you go off on a testosterone fit that you so seemingly promulgate, make sure it's not a missing letter.

Odds are, a finger missed a key. Read your post a few times. It's like a kid having fit for whatever reason.

You just spit out the most garbage in one post with "mwuhaha" crap I have ever seen. Sit back, take a deep breath and maybe find yourself a life kiddo.

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[–] mark_st 14 years ago

I will admit I may have been a little bit out of line but I don't take any of that back.

Spelling 'paid' as 'payed' is more common than you think, in fact spelling 'paid' as 'payed' is still considered correct in some countries.

You had to nitpick that one lousy spelling mistake because you really didn't have anything to contribute to the discussion. You signed up on to this message board to write a friggen essay on the most trivial grammatical error and now your telling me to go get a life.

So yes that's how I do imagine you - as some pompous *beep* who goes "mwuhaha" at a spelling error.

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[–] patrick-782-678023 14 years ago

You forgot, worse then a troll... or better yet... you had the audacity to label anyone on here just because they disagreed harshly with your review as a pedophile?

What kind of person does that? Yet you sit there calling me names, and have yet to stop. You're a bit insecure bud. You I presume call bullies in school rapists and criminals saints?

Again, never have I seen someone so disrespectfully label someone as harsh as a pedophile, that's not a joke or a word to use lightly. If that is your only defense then I highly suggest you get off any forum and seek some sort of anger management.

I originally picked on you for labeling anyone who likes this film as "stupid, mindless drones and cattle" Yet you come here angry because of what I said?

Anger management or get off the forums my friend. You can dish it but can't take it.

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[–] mark_st 14 years ago

Yeah pedophiles may screw kids (which is awful) but at least they don't go mwahahaha at a friggen spelling error.

You probably don't get my sense of humor. So whatever I don't care.

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[–] patrick-782-678023 14 years ago

"So at least they don't go Mwhahaha", and you know this how? You are a sick idiot. You need some serious help. I've already told you. Pedophile and "sense of humor" do not go together.

In the near future kid, call people whatever names you like (if you prefer to continue acting like a child) but pedophile is not something to be used lightly.

Grow up a little, stop calling people who like a movie stupid, cattle or drones and when someone harshly disagrees, turning around and calling people worse than pedophiles is sick.

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[–] shopper-33 13 years ago

I agree the movie was really rubbish, there were a few moments where I thought it was going to get good, but they messed up so badly with the plot and script it left me feeling I had wasted my time watching it. That's my view anyway

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[–] mtn_14 8 years ago

OP You don't have a lot of friends do you?

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[–] tj_meaney3 15 years ago

The movie is based on a series of graphic novels published by DC/Vertigo. The reason it flopped is probably due to the fact that no one knew that fact. "The Losers" is one of my favorite graphic novel collections, and it saddens me that no one else really knew that fact. Was the movie verbatim from the books? No. But like "Watchmen," it was a faithful interpretation from the source material. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the film, but Hollywood can't please everyone.

And before you say anything about "Watchmen," I have yet to meet a "Watchmen" fan who didn't enjoy the film. I work at a comic book store and nearly every person who read (and enjoyed) the the "Watchmen" graphic novel also enjoyed the movie. Sadly, not everyone who saw the movie read the book first.

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[–] schwatime 14 years ago

This is why I get annoyed with people when they argue “the movie is just some cheap mindless fun and that I shouldn’t take it so seriously” because all I hear is “moo moo” from a bunch of cattle who have been conditioned by this banal *beep* for too long!

And here's what I would say to that: There are all kinds of ways that a movie can be good. Not all bases have to be touched.

Blade Runner, for example, is a great movie, IMO, but it's sure not because of its basic premise. They can build replicants in that future, but bioengineers can't figure out a way to tag their DNA (Craig Venter has done that in the *present*), barcode their femurs, or something similar? Or at least don't you think the filmmaker owes the audience *some* attempt to plausibly explain how/why this was avoided? So they have to give extensive and subtle tests to separate regular humans from beings who have superhuman powers. Ridiculous. And the plot as a whole was nothing to write home about, either: basically Deckard chases replicants and doesn't really say or express much of anything, and toward the end he/we are supposed to have a revelation that is beyond shallow (and should have occurred to just about anyone with a brain way near the start of the film, if you ask me). But the way the mood of the film was established, the way the world he lived in was fleshed out and made real for me, now *that* was special. And that alone made the film for me. Nothing more was needed. It might even have gotten in the way, I don't know.

So, in Losers, yes, you've got an off-the-shelf, recycled plot. And there wasn't any real character development, and it won't tax the intellect. But the plot was used here merely as a framework on which to hang short-term gags. In exchange the writers were freed to focus on those gags. The movie was fast-paced, and funny (and be careful what you ask for: have you ever noticed how the funny usually drains out of comedies toward the end when character development is shot for?), and when I was watching it I didn't have the usual feeling that I not only knew what was going to happen for the next ten minutes, but exactly, *groaningly*, how.

Actually, now that I think about it, yes, there were some cliches that grated. (Was it going to take the computer guy more than a few seconds to find/download the program? Of course not--it *never* takes movie computer guys any time to do that. More than a little while to figure out that it was a "courier" disk--whatever the hell that even means, when you think about it? Hell no. What were the odds of Clay getting that remote in the dive?) But the action was fast enough that I didn't mind too much.

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[–] jesusschwartz 13 years ago

You were "forced at gunpoint" to watch this movie, yet you "payed to watch this film"; were you forced to buy the ticket for the person with the gun as well?

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[–] dashab 11 years ago

You "paid" to watch a movie based on a comic book hoping for intellectual stimulation and now you're here complaining about other people being cows? No one walked into this movie thinking they were going to get Fellini but you, dude. I'm sorry about your hurt butt, but seriously, it would have taken literally seconds to Google this up and go see something that was more up to your intellectual caliber instead. There ain't nothing new under the sun, my friend. The tropes employed both in Fight Club and Reservoir Dogs have been used before, everything ever is derivative. Everything. Get over it.

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[–] TheDarkKnightMatter 10 years ago

No you're saying all movie should have great story and character development. Truth is not everyone wants to take things so seriously. We don't mind an eye candy movie just like we don't mind sleeping with the baddest chick with the hottest body but a personality of a turd. You're just an angry self appointed critic who has a tunnel vision for movies.

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[–] GvP- 14 years ago

Some Like it Hot? You must be the Comedian. What are you, 90 years old?

Whether you like it or not, Reservoir Dogs is and will remain as one of the most iconic films in American film history. And both Reservoir Dogs and Fight Club survive off comedic elements. What's funnier than cutting a guy's ear off while dancing, or collecting lipo-fat to make soap to sell back to the fat asses who had the surgery in the first place?

But I agree, neither of those two films are comparable to The Losers, a highly-stylized shoot 'em up action flick. Still, I don't know why so many people trashed the movie. In my opinion, the cast was nearly as good as the original Predator, as far as these kind of movies go. Yes, most of the story was predictable, and who didn't see the death of all those kids coming as soon as the bear was exchanged. And yes, Predator as a whole was a classic, not trying to say this movie was a classic. Just saying the characters in this film were a lot more entertaining and worthwhile than, say, the unwatchable Domino, or the all too "common" Smokin' Aces. There's definitely worse out there than The Losers.

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[–] lonmonster 14 years ago

I don't really know where to begin with your argument here, it barely has anything to do with what I was talking about. At least you're agreeing with me somewhat, so that lends to your credentials.

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[–] GvP- 14 years ago

Don't worry, I didn't expect much of a reply from you ... lol or anyone who claims they have "credentials" on IMDB.

Your point is apples (The Losers) to oranges (Some Like It Hot), my point is there is plenty of comedy in both Fight Club and Reservoir Dogs. Comedic elements, like shooting an assistant because she doesn't hold an umbrella can be compared to those films. The Losers, it its entirety as an action shooter, is apples and oranges.

Anyway, if your "credentials" still don't understand, I'll raise you an Awaara and a Umberto D.. But it is nice to see a Monroe flick referenced in a thread entitled "insult to human intelligence."

"When you have insomnia, you're never really asleep ... and you're never really awake."

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[–] lonmonster 14 years ago

Just stop. You're awful at this arguing thing. You've made asinine assumptions (I have imdb credentials??) and grossly missed my point (never compared Some Like it Hot to The Losers, go back and reread).

To quote Capote, "There's not a single solitary concept that you can illuminate me on."

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[–] GvP- 14 years ago

In summary, you don't have any credentials--it would be asinine to assume you thought you ever did--and the best you could come up with in response is a personal attack and a quotation which ends in a preposition. From Capote. That's a hard fail, lol.

There's no reason to stop, you never began. You create blanket statements and hope they'll stick without having to debate, because you can't. Now you have nothing left and you need a quick exit, but you're a fag in an ashtray, going nowhere.

"When you have insomnia, you're never really asleep ... and you're never really awake."

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[–] lonmonster 14 years ago

1. I never claimed to have imdb credentials. You made that assumption, and were wrong, then angrily made fun of me because I didn't have them? Beyond being irrelevant whether or not someone has imdb credentials (I never made that point), you've gone into some meta-area of idiocy I can't fathom here. You made the assumption. Then condemn me for not living up to your assumption.

2. You attack me personally, then condemn my rebuttal as being personal.

3. You haven't once even shown that you understood my point in the original post that you're replying to. You still, right now, have no idea what I was saying. This isn't a blanket statement. This is a specific premise: You're not even clear what we're talking about.

But mannnnn are you angry about it, whatever it is. "You never began"? You're still in high school, aren't you? I'm honestly asking that.

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[–] GvP- 14 years ago

Since your reading comprehension failed you, let's review. Here's what you said earlier:

At least you're agreeing with me somewhat, so that lends to your credentials.

My response:

Don't worry, I didn't expect much of a reply from you ... lol or anyone who claims they have "credentials" on IMDB.

In short, I find you pretentious. As such, I didn't expect much from you. You probably can't comprehend your situation without intervention, and I can understand why you thought I was suggesting you were somehow affiliated with IMDB, or responsible for professional critical thought. I apologize for your misconception; I don't think anyone here thinks you have professional credentials.

As for your second point, I highlighted your personal rebuttal then responded to you in kind. Hopefully enough people will respond to you in the same way in order to help shake you from your own imagined "pedestal," in which my "attack" came prior. Such the victim.

I explained your initial point in my second to last response. Your premise was you don't think people should compare Fight Club and Reservoir Dogs haphazardly to any sort of film that has guns and violence, such as The Losers, and to highlight that thought you referenced a classic comedy in Some Like It Hot to further illustrate how it wouldn't make sense to compare the comedy in The Losers to the comedy in Some Like It Hot. Apples to oranges. However, there are ways to compare the films, based on some of the actions of the characters in The Losers, the exaggerated, to the camera walk, and some of the ways the scenes are shot. I went over an example in a prior response.

As for your last question, you put up a quotation by a guy who breaks middle school grammar and you expected people to swoon. I really wouldn't bother with an attempt at linking high school level education to ignorance when you haven't made it past the seventh grade as an intellectual.

"When you have insomnia, you're never really asleep ... and you're never really awake."

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[–] lonmonster 14 years ago

Am I being trolled here? Or are you really this insane?

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[–] linz-rasmussen 13 years ago

Some like it hot and other movies of that era, of which many were amazing, also cannot be compared to the losers. It's a generation thing. It's why there's comedic skits with parents complaining about their kids poor music taste or complaining about turning down that noise.

L. R.

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[–] airfaith 9 years ago

"film school sophomores"

mate accept it, thats just you trying to justify your ability to watch utterly terrible movies like "the losers" why should people not compare good movies with todays terrible reproduced trash? its sets a perfect example of how bad hollywood is getting in terms of bringing out pointless movies with boring story arcs and pointless action in the hopes the action someone fills in the gaps, yet it fails to do that.

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[–] BrutalNatur3 15 years ago

I am in complete agreement with the quote below. I have no problem with dumb action movies, as long as my movie diet consists of a little more than them and them alone. To be arrogant enough to assume only idiots can enjoy this is bad form. Shows you in a very poor light indeed. Get over yourself.

lonmonster said: "Wow. Get over yourself, buddy. This movie didn't take itself half as seriously as you apparently do.

Fight Club and Reservoir (not Resorviour) Dogs are your examples of character development and story? Yawn."

When people learn the dif between "I don't like this" and "This sucks", it puts a smile on my face.

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[–] karlbark 15 years ago

Well, I do inherently agree with what you´re saying.
(There are lots ..and lots.. of monumentally inane films made these days)!

But I actually rather enjoyed it.
Maybe, because I viewed it (more or less) as a "desert flick". (Think "Mad Max" wannabe)!
-You know, the kind of cheap, mindless action stuff that they´d shoot in the desert with a few dune buggys and explosions!

-I expected worse, actually! :-D

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[–] hendo84 15 years ago

As much as i love good food, on ocassion all i want is a macdonalds cheeseburger. An its the same with this film. It's not going to blow ur mind in any way, shape or form (except maybe zoe saldanda's ass). But sometimes its fun to switch ur brain off, crack open the popcorn an watch people blow *beep* up then stand round quipping about it.

Get off ur high horse an just enjoy it. U can have ur soapbox back now, am done.

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[–] SpeedRacer2K 15 years ago

You know what else won't make a difference?

Your post.

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[–] p_hargarten 15 years ago

This post made me want to watch this movie now just to see what the big deal is.

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[–] MrSuave56 15 years ago

I'll wait for it on dvd.

AT MIDNIGHT TONIGHT I WANT EVERYMAN DRUNKER THAN A FIDDLER'S BITCH."

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[–] trollomatic 15 years ago

>>>Seriously? Is it just me or are people really getting dumber these days,

yes. people are getting dumber and dumber everyday.

It's a result of the government-run public schools and what they are teaching them these days.

I noticed the kids in non-government run private schools are still smart.

The hollywood movie/tv industry has lost it. They're not as creative as the industry was in the past, although they think they are.

They just don't have any sort of talent anymore.

The Hollywood movie/tv industry is going down.

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