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Who is on your Mount 'RAP'-More.??? WHO ARE THE TOP FOUR RAPPERS??


If you could build your own Mount Rushmore of Rap, who would you put on it? Top four Rappers of all time--

1. Tupac >>> He was a poet, who made rapping meaningful, and life changing
2. Rakim >>> He changed everything about the rap world period.
3. Biggie >>> His flow was incredible, and his impact was impeccable
4. Easy-E >>> His M.C skills revolutionized the Rap Industry

I went with most influential for my top 4... I could have gone with most popular, but then I would have had to put up Eminem, seeing as though behind Tupac, he has sold the most rap albums ever. I elected to keep him off, even though he is great-- hes just not good enough to share a mountain with any of those four.

Honorable mentions-- KRS- One, Nas, and Jay-Z in his prime.


P.S I don't see anything wrong with the movie Notorious, I thought it was an enjoyable tribute to B.I.G. It might not have been a cinematic masterpiece, or one hundred percent accurate, but it made a *beep* appreciate everything he has done for the Hip-Hop industry.

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1. Gift of Gab >>> Simply one of the most talented lyricists of all time
2. Ice Cube representing N.W.A. >>> Not only was he good before "Are we there yet", he fronted one of the greatest groups(not just rap group) of all time.
3. Tupac >>> Like you said, I want my Rap to be meaningful, and he's the top dog in that aspect. One of the greatest of all time.
4. Dr. Dre >>> DONT YELL!!!! He may not be the greatest, but for everything he's actually done and the people he's helped bring up, he deserves to be up here.

This isn't really in any order, but I like Gift of Gab the most.

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Your Mount Rap-more is good... I'm still just questioning whether Dre should be up there... Hes just not as great as the rest. He doesn't write most of his stuff/

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Really? I didn't know that, I may reconsider now, but oh well.

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Sure, Dre isn't the greatest writer or MC, but come on! The guys complete set of skills is undeniable. His super cool rapping technique combined with his unrivaled production skills. Dre would definitely be up on that mountain.

My Mount RAP More would be:

Dre, Chuck D, Slick Rick, KRS-1

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Who is better... KRS-One or Easy E??

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Big L, Slick RIck, Rakim, KRS-One... those are my favorite... wouldn't necessarily say they're the greatest... but those are my favorites

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This is a clever thread

1. Ludacris
2. Snoop
3. Wayne
4. Big Daddy Kane

Keep in mind, these guys are my top favorite rappers.

"Only that in you which is me can hear what I'm saying." ~Baba Ram Dass

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1. Dylan
2. Dylan
3. Dylan
4. Dylan

Because he spits hot fire, lol.

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Tupac- The undisputed king of rap music.
Biggie- The best rap storyteller and flow master.
Esham- Underground Detroit rapper who has a unique sound and sick rhymes.
Spice 1- Bay Area rapper who is one of the most talented rappers i know of.

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Tupac
Big L
Biggie
Nas

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1.Tupac
2.Rakim
3.Scarface
4.LL Cool J

honorable mention: Ice Cube, Big Daddy Kane, Paris, Royce Da 5'9

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1. Nas
2. Scarface
3. Classified
4. Knoc-Turn'al

Not that I really listen to much rap, but I really enjoyed a track or other that each of the above made.

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Before I make my list, if you put Wayne on this I can't take you serious as a fan of hip hop.

Now, these aren't necasarrily my favorite rappers, or even who I think are the greatest rappers. I'm basing this off of influence over the industry, the public, and who made a mark in hip-hop in a general.

In no particular order:

- Tupac (this doesn't need an explanation
- Q-Tip (A Tribe Called Quest did it mainstream, but with complete originality)
- Eminem (Personally, I think he's a decent rapper but when you get to the bottom of it Eminem changed the way a lot of people looked at hiphop, mostly white America)
- Tech N9ne (He's super underground, but that doesn't stop his label from being the biggest underground label in the country, with him at the forefront. This guy has rapped with so many artists, including Pac and Em.)

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tech has so many brutal, unlistenable songs though. and very few classics.

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I wanna see Roland rap. He's gangsta!

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Rap......uh,....sucks...

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soooo damn true
haha
YOUR TOO CLOSE MON!

but ummm

hows about this...

1.Immortal Technique-all you gotta do is listen to anything off of his album Revolutionary Volume 2 to notice his genius, not only does he have amazing raping skills, but he also raps about important things not just the generic subjects.

2. Aesop Rock- This guys raps are just dripping with ingenious Bob Dylan esc metaphors. His raps aren't just powerful but also very thought provoking. He's underground hip hop for intellectuals.

3. Cage Kennylz- For all the people that put down Eminem. Eminem had some great skills back in the day. But without Cage there would be no Eminem. Cage's story telling ability and crazy style of rapping thick with references to everything from movies to drugs.

i dont know who else i would pic personally, im a big fan of...slug, luda, Talib, mos def, MF Doom and stuff like that.

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Um Jay-Z anyone

2-pac
Jay-Z
Big
Naz

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Any knowledgeable hip hop fan would never ever put Wayne on that list.

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1.David Banner

2.Pimp C

3.Juicy J (of 3-6 Mafia)

4.Birdman aka Baby aka #1 stunna

5.Juvenile

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1. TuPac
2. Eminem
3. Rakim
4. Nas

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GUESS WHO'S BACK!!!!!

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1. Biggie
2. Big L
3. Eminem
4. 2Pac

I want to put Ice Cube in there as well, even though he's gone mainstream through acting you have to admit "Raw Footage" was FIRE!!!

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1. Tupac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Jay Z
5. Lil Wayne

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1. Notorious B.I.G
2. Tupac
3. Nas
4. Salt N Pepa
5. DMX
6. Eminem

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(Not in order)

Eminem
2Pac
The Notorious B.I.G.
(tho i know most people will disagree) Lil Wayne at his best

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NOSaints:

thanks for reppin southern rap...i think a lot of rappers in the south changed the genre more than people realize. Master P, Juvenile, Three 6 Mafia and Outkast?! These dudes pushed the envelope. We even had a star from NC for a minute (Petey Pablo) Anyway, mine would be:

Biggie
Pac
KRS One
Rakim

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LOL... WRONG! We know where you live, and what you listen to. Thanks for playing. Why don't you try listening something that ISN'T produced in the south? I know that might be hard, but there are other rappers out there.

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The South is runnin thangs in the rap game my friend.

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To you, I'm sure they are. But not everyone wants to hear that. And I live in Florida. Believe it or not, everyone isn't waiting for another song about guns, drugs, women and cars. But that's the difference between rap and hip-hop. I'm sure you don't care, but you should open yourself up to different music. Outkast is a perfect example. They started like all the others, and now they're making different, creative, interesting music, but you may not be into them now. The same direction Lil' Wayne is (slowly) going. They're showing growth and maturity in their music. They're not giving you the same thing anymore.

Its funny that so many people from the south want to hear the same type of songs over and over, but when the south gets the artists that give you the same song over and over (Master P, Trick Daddy, Drama, Dem Franchise Boyz, Silkk the Shocker, etc.) you get behind them for a minute and then you leave them for the next big thing, and then they die off. It just shows that most of the people who like all these down south artists (most of which have Lil or Young in their name) are only looking for the next hot song until you get the next hot song, instead of getting into some artists that can stay around and put out good music for years. Where's D4L? Have you seen Project Pat? Is Mike Jones even alive?

The worst part about it is not only are you looking for just some forgettable song to dance to in a club, there are too many wannabe artists (Soulja Boy, Shorty Lo, etc.) just looking for a quick dollar and giving you that "disposable" music while giving real hip-hop a bad name. Outkast proved you can make good music and be from the south, the question is, when will the other southern rappers stop making nonsense and challenge themselves?


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My favorites are Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Biggie, and Jay-Z, but rap/hip-hop isn't what I mainly listen to.

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Since we're talking rappers here and not rap groups, producers or hip hop pop stars...

Tupac: the man was a true poet + 150 rap songs a year ??? damnnn no wonder they still sellin his stuff

Biggie: that flow is just water man.. RAPPERS TAKE NOTES!!!! he only has a few albums, and we MUST MUST MUST get this kind of style back in the ARTs. *beep* little wayne and kanye with their electronic vocal bullsh!t n*ggas may be great producers, but they ain't sh!t to the NOTORIOUS one aka inspired film title (1940s, drama)

Eminem: the more you listen to his serious stuff, he actually mispronounces words on purpose and focuses on syllables, on rhyming those syllables instead of whole words, and that's how the man got that unstoppable pyro flow, but his voice is soft IMO, still #3

Nas vs. Ice Cube for me can't decide: they got the storytelling of the originals of hip hop/rap understood, they got the flow understood, and they make a beat complete with the voice

*beep* some of those other ones who all they do is hire assistant producers and steal beats and have writers.. true fans know who im talkin about.

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BIG
JAY-Z
SLICK RICK
RAHKIM

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Phife Dawg

KRS One

Busta Rhymes

Snoop Dog

Run

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wow, only 4?

2pac
Nas
Cube
Rakim

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My mount Rapmore...

1.) Biggie - His lyrical skills were just sick. And in terms of popular appeal BIG is still killin em to this very day...

2.) Tupac - He was a street poet in every sense of the word. I learned about the streets listening to Tupac...

3.) Kanye West - regardless of his percieved arrogance Kanye is the best rapper alive right now...

4.) Nas - enough said...

Not I said the cat...

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1. Jay Z - Most Versatile Rapper Ever

2. Eminem - Lyrically a beast with one of the best flows ever

3. Notorious B.I.G - Also one of the best flows ever, plus his also very versatile

4. Tupac - Maybe the most influential rapper of all time, with his political raps and world commentary.

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1. Biggie

2. Nas

3. Rakim

4. Cube

no explanation needed for any of them. It is a scientific fact that these are the top 4.

Honorable mention to Scarface, Q-Tip, Lupe, Kweli, Jay Z, KRS One and Kanye

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I know your only suppose to list 4. but these are the 5 greatest rappers, producers.

Rappers
Nas-Illmatic. best rap album of all time
Tupac-Most influential rapper of all time
Jay-Z-On top since he started
B.I.G-he captured what all these rappers tried to get their whole lives,while
releasing only 1 album when he was alive.
Rakim-changed rap forever. Influenced all 4 of the others.if it wasnt for
him they wouldnt be rapping.

Producers
DJ Premier-his earlest beats still sound brand new
RZA-if it wasnt for him. thered be no wu tang clan.
Dr.Dre-the california version of rza. if it wasnt for him. no NWA no snoop no
eminem no 50 cent. No Deathrow.
Kany West- responsible for blueprint. young. but the best producer of this
generation.
Marley Marl- the pioneer. influenced premier. the rakim of producers.

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I know your only suppose to list 4. but these are the 5 greatest rappers, producers.

Rappers
Nas-Illmatic. best rap album of all time
Tupac-Most influential rapper of all time
Jay-Z-On top since he started
B.I.G-he captured what all these rappers tried to get their whole lives,while
releasing only 1 album when he was alive.
Rakim-changed rap forever. Influenced all 4 of the others.if it wasnt for
him they wouldnt be rapping.

Producers
DJ Premier-his earlest beats still sound brand new
RZA-if it wasnt for him. thered be no wu tang clan.
Dr.Dre-the california version of rza. if it wasnt for him. no NWA no snoop no
eminem no 50 cent. No Deathrow.
Kany West- responsible for blueprint. young. but the best producer of this
generation.
Marley Marl- the pioneer. influenced premier. the rakim of producers.

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4.Canibus
3.Gift Of Gab
2.Rakim
1.Black Thought


honorable mentions: Kool G rap, Slick Rick, The Last Emperor, Big Daddy Kane.


I don't think anyone has been as consistant and has made better music than The Roots. And a large percentage of that success belongs to Black Thought. Any and everyone can have an argument for why they ARE the best rapper of all time. But only Black Thought DOESN'T have an argument for why hes NOT.

In my humble opinion of cours.

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"Can-i-bus" was a battle rapper. Clever, witty, and on point, but he wasn't complete. Biggie was complete because he had (still has) the following while maintaining a level of pop success. Biggie is a legend, and he only lived to see only ONE of his albums released. ONE. Can-i-bus was definitely talented, but in the overall scope, he's not even close. Gift of Gab? Extremely underrated, but all-time greatest? Seriously? Its more than just skill. Everyone knows a talented ballplayer - the kid who's dunked since he was 7, or the kid who scored more touchdowns than his whole high school team - but he's not automatically an all-time great.

There's a lot of room for good and great emcees (Mos Def, Q-Tip, etc.) but when it comes to the best four, you have to be really objective. The Roots are a group (right now) that are only known by those who already know. Unfortunately, most people don't know who they are, even though they've been around for what seems like forever and its a shame. Anyway, with The Roots, some of it is their reluctance to be in the spotlight, but now as Late Night with Jimmy Fallon's house band on NBC every night, maybe that will open them up to the people. Their music, while awesome, right now just isn't enough to get Thought into that elite circle. I truly feel that if what you have is truly great, you don't even have to pursue the fame - it'll find you, and everyone will see it, too - as long as you're exposed. And on a small scale, that's already happened to The Roots. Whether we agree with it or not, IT ALWAYS HAS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE ABOUT MORE THAN JUST THE MUSIC. I used to think The Roots would always be happy with their place in hip-hop, but the move to NBC looks like they finally want more, and that gives Black Thought a LOT of hope. All-time greatest hip-hop band? Unquestioned.

You're old school, and your tastes are a lot like mine. I LOVE The Roots as much as anyone, but Biggie and Pac touched the masses, turned millions onto hip-hop culture and whats going on outside of your own world better than anyone else and still do to this day. Between Biggie & Tupac, who's #1 and #2 is always up for debate, but their placement as #1 & #2 should always be firm, and I wasn't really a fan of either one - I love the artists that talk about real life. To a degree, they lived the music they made, but that's not most people's life, and drug/money rap never did much for me. There are some college classes (not music classes) based on the works of Biggie & Tupac. If you're really gonna make a list, you have to be objective. You'll definitely understand this compared to the guy who posted all his top rappers as Southern artists because that's all he listens to so he can't be objective.

Bottom line, its the appeal that puts them at the top. Somehow Biggie & Pac, who often said some pretty horrible things and painted gruesome, disturbing images in their music, managed to bring the thugs, the kids, the soccer moms and the scholars - EVERYONE - into their world. And they did it their way, and that's why they'll always be at the top until someone does it better.

In my humble opinion, of course.


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