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A few things about the Israeli-Arab conflict


Pardon my English. I'm a 18 years old northern Israeli guy, and English serves as a second language.

I liked the movie, even though it was a bit unrealistic. The watchers get the feeling that all suicide bombers are ordinary people, just a little desperate. I'm afraid the fireworks that we see on our memorial day (for soldiers and civilians who lost their lives), coming from the Arab village nearby + the happy marches the Pal. make, every time a baby is blown up in a bus, or just get shot in a hotel, can tell otherwise. But hey, you don't see that on CNN, right? Because it would upset the Arab world, and Europe would lose its biggest oil source. we wouldn't want that to happen.


Apart from the movie, a few things I want you to know. May or may not be connected directly to this board, but it should be said.

1. The British gave 1\2 of "Palestine" to the Jews. They could have built here a UK2, they could have bomb the whole place, without giving any explanation to the Palestinians, but they chose to give half of it to the Jews. The Arabs, like always, with an impulsive reaction, started the first war, raging about the 50% (that 50% was basically 40% desolate desert and 10% of Jewish cities, built in the previous century) that the Jews "stole" from them, which leads to...

2. 1 million Palestinians were expelled? Nah… Most of them fled the new country because they were afraid from the war they brought upon themselves. They could have stay, we would have treated them like anybody else, but they made a choice. We all got to live with our choices, don't we? We can't cry 24-7, and blame the Zionist, and their "puppets" (USA, and apparently the whole world, according to Palestinians). A lot of power for 750,000 Jews in Israel, no? But wait, what about the million Arabs that did stay in Israel? What happened to them? Were they killed, discriminated against or got pushed to the sea?

3. I have to say no. 1,400,000 Israeli Arabs, enjoying a high living standard, studying in the universities that the Zionist built, visiting our Zionist malls, receiving money from our government when unemployed, etc. I live in a Jewish city, located 2 miles from an Arab one. I see Arabs every day - in a Zionist hospital, in a Zionist library, in a Zionist park, in a Zionist TV broadcasts etc. Never heard a racist comment and never witnessed an act of physical violence. We accept them into our society because they're Israeli. I don't care if they go to a mosque in the morning. Even when some of them arrange terrorist attacks themselves, the Israeli-Arabs are safe and secured in their arab cities.

But wait a minute, the Israeli Arabs are being treated like dirt, with the apartheid and all...

4. There is no apartheid, and the wall doesn't concerns Israeli Arabs. The Palestinians are not part of our country, and we never wish them to be. How can building a wall, on one country's land, count as an apartheid? if the US decides to build a wall on Texas' turf, in order to prevent illegal immigrants from entering the US, would you call that "apartheid"? If Poland, in 1939, build a wall to protect itself from the German army - apartheid? And as for the Israeli Arabs - they are treated like any other citizen. Of course there are Jewish cities and Arab Cities, but that's made by choice, like Belgium, if I'm not mistaken.


surprisingly, the rate of terrorist attack against Israel has drop hundreds percents since 2003. but that's all a strange coincidence. bad Israel, bas Zionists.


The West Bank (Khaled & Said's birth home) and the Gaza Strip is not desired by us, Israelis. It's a burden. We provide the Palestinians with water, electricity and gas, and let's not forget - millions and millions of Dollars, taken from our taxes money, even though it's a proven fact - some of the money is used by Hamas, Fatah and other peace organization. But of course, the Jews (sorry, the ZIONISTS) have a hidden agenda, and they must have invented some special money, that melts in your hands.


5. Poor Palestinians, always the victim. They're poor, living in a constant fear of war, and their love ones occasionally get hurt from the enemy's fire, the children murderer. Guess what? So am I. I'm poor, I lived in shelter during the '06 war, and I lost love ones in a the enemy's attack, and when the lonely, poor Palestinian blew up the coffee shop near my high school, hundreds of children could have died also.

but we Israelis carry on, trying to offer, willing to give up land, Because life means more to us. In 2001 we offered them the whole Gaza Strip and the West Bank, They're ultimate goal (So they say…) They refused (not a shocker). We celebrate life. They, on the other hand, continue to wallow in their grief and anger, while hurting the beautiful land of Israel.

It's not because of 1967
It's not because of Lebanon
The Palestinians want 5,500,000 Jews out. they made that quite clear when they murdered us in the 19th century (uh, but that's because of 1967, right?), the start of the 20th century (the occupation... damn 1967!) and when Mohammad Amin al-Husayni met with Hitler, discussing the extermination of the European Jews (but wait, they weren't Zionist, because they've continued to live in Europe.... uh, what the hell, damn Zionist, it's all because of the occupation).

I'm a left winger, but I would not stand by while ignorant, hateful people all around the world are bashing Israel, and asking us to apologize for being alive. It's a new time, and we have self-esteem, pride and love for our beloved country.

Peace to those who want it.

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