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What Is This Movie Really About?


The most famous, mysterious, unsolved serial killer in American history, yes.
The one that made us all lose our innocence and lock our doors.

I always wondered why no one ever made a feature film about this case, and now I know why. It’s a long, tortured, bitch of a story with no clear ending — even 40 years later.

But what’s the real focus here?

Not Zodiac, I’d argue. We see the result of his “work,” but we never really see him unless you believe it ends with the right suspect. I think it’s about the enormous toll, in time and energy, that police and reporters slog into a case that becomes an ever-growing sinkhole with no bottom. Graysmith, sure — but no one embodies this more than Detective Dave Toschi. Wonderfully played by Mark Ruffalo, the seething frustration of a man who cares deeply about his work but begins to realize he may have spent his life chasing a mirage is frustrating and sad for us to watch. Just look at the two-minute trailer on Netflix right now, Toschi eating a hamburger at a diner while Graysmith tries to get anything he can. It’s early on, yet already they’re opposing forces: Toschi irritated that newbies always think they know more yet believe he doesn’t care or has not pursued the case vigorously while Graysmith tries to find a crack in his shell to push through his research and observations. All between convincing bites of hamburger. Looks, sounds, and feels real. Those dark eyes aimed right at his adversary, eyes that say “We’re way ahead of you, buddy” and “One day, you’ll know what a filthy ball of wet string this case is and how it tears you up.” Ruffalo’s arc to the third act, in which he almost comes to blows, is not only very compelling, but inspires empathy. Is any case worth this, the movie asks. Each viewer will have to decide for himself.

But this film is the highlight of Ruffalo’s career, marking him indelibly as a serious dramatic film actor. As confirmation, the next decade brought him three Oscar nominations. Should have been four.

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It was a good recreation of the era and case with attention to detail. I think the weakest link was Robert Downey Jr. who always plays himself and was a distraction. Anyway as for what it's about, I don't think the filmmakers overthought it, they tried to stay faithful to Graysmith's book and other sources and left it at that. One issue is that the "climax" of the film is a focus on the wrong suspect, which DNA evidence later ruled out. However this doesn't stop the film from showing Graysmith (who is the perspective of the viewer) as 100% sure it's him.
But I mean in the greater context, maybe unintentionally it shows how this case seems to be the sole focus of all these people while Vietnam kills millions and while there are major upheavals in the country and world. My theory is it was a Vietnam veteran driven insane by the war...or driven insane by something. Maybe someday they'll match that stamp DNA to someone whose relative uses Ancestry.com (they caught Deangelo, the East area rapist and original night stalker this way).
But the sickest thing is that there was/is a whole group of Zodiac junkies out there who are obsessed with the case. They need to get a life!
Anyway, overall it's a well done film. As for it being the case that caused the US to "lose its innocence", that's what they said about the JFK assassination, the Manson murders, and/or any other tragedy one may choose. Guess everyone forgot about the genocide of Native Americans, slavery, war, injustice, etc. But one death or one serial killer is what ends our innocence?! As Melania would say give me a effing break!
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/zodiac-killer-dna-profile-evidence-genealogy-12878262.php#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20confirmed%20DNA,retrieved%20from%20beneath%20a%20stamp.

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DNA doesnt match up? You honestly think someone who read about handwriting, tried to write in the opposite hand, and did every trick to allude the cops, would just lick his own stamp? There's no guarantee (It's very easy to ask someone to mail something for you and say it needs a stamp). There's also no guarantee Zodiac killings were one person. Plenty of drugged out psychos in SF at the time who would want to copy cat.

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Did they also test the envelope flap seal or just the stamp?

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A partial DNA profile from a stamp. Mind you there was no testing during the time, so there was zero proper handling of it to preserve it correctly. So all that evidence does is muddy the water. The real evidence from the movie is damning enough. No crimes while locked up or dead. Same shoes. Knowing the first victim and harassing her with phone calls. Capturing and killing squirrels like a psycho. Being a kiddie diddler. Like, you couldnt have a stronger serial killer profile, if you asked.

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I agree it’s about how obsessed someone can get over trying to catch a killer.

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