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Are you serious? This movie is not realistic AT ALL.


And I'm in high school.
This movie is garbarge and the farthest thing from reality.

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i think people are just saying this is unrealistic because they've never experienced it
it may not happen to you, and you may have not heard about it, but it does happen

all the elements of this film has happened and in my particular region have happened to similar extremes
people underestimate how extreme these situations can get because they are so well hidden, and people are horribly afraid to talk about it and get it out in the open
i think this movie is really honest and such an eye opener, it should be shown more especially around the nation

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Stacey was very realistic, lots of people can be like that,she's probably Bi-Polar or something. While Nikkie is likely a Sociopath.

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I am fortunate to be able to say that this extent of bullying did not take place at my high school, but then again, it was a small private school with only about 200 students. I ran into some snotty girls, but nothing near what the main character in this film experienced.

It's one thing to admit that your school was different, but it's another thing completely to pass it off as unrealistic. Every single generation has bad bullies, and in today's society, it's more intense and problematic than it ever was before. Technologies like MySpace, YouTube, Facebook, and instant messaging provide a certain "facelessness" for kids, and they can do whatever they want without worrying about it. Sometimes they are caught in the act, but it's incredibly difficult to point fingers when you don't have solid, in-person proof. Technology has helped high school and junior high kids become smarter, sneakier, and more subtle about their bullying, and as sick as it is, it's exactly what's happening.

And you can't say that kids like Stacey and Nikki (in the movie) would have been dealt with from the very beginning if it happened in real life. Not necessarily. In reality, kids have a very hard time with malicious classmates who do all their bullying behind the backs of their teachers, parents, and school administration. It's not as if a girl is going to start trash-talking the target and call her names when a teacher is standing right there--and it's not as if the victim is going to go run and tell a grown-up, ESPECIALLY when it's a high school environment. What kid is gonna want to make things worse for herself by getting the "tattletale" reputation? And how much can a teacher do if she didn't see it happen, and it's one kid's word against another? It can get very messy, believe me.

I do agree that the "I Hate Vanessa" website in the movie was awful, and Vanessa could have avoided a heck of a lot of trouble if she brought that to her mother and principal's attention immediately. Still, you have to remember that not every teenager is able to do that, for various reasons. Some kids don't have steady home lives, and some are terrified that tattling will make their situation even worse with the bullies. Vanessa had a very loving mother at home, but her mom was also in denial about the bullies and tried to brush it all away because she wanted her daughter to be popular. Don't think for a minute that this didn't affect Vanessa's relationship with her mother. Things like that can have a profound impact on kids and make them feel like they can't confide in their parents or other adults in their lives. So many factors are involved in these things, and you can never assume that each person will respond the same way.

There are some schools that are really good about downplaying the bullying that goes on, and there are other places where the adults don't even attempt to do anything about it until somebody commits suicide or gets seriously hurt. There are kids who are able to realize that people are being mean and distance themselves from them, and there are others (like Vanessa) who are so insecure, they allow themselves to fall prey. It all depends on who you are, where you are, and what things are like in your situation. I never saw it take form the way it did in this film, but you know what? I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that at least one person has...and probably even worse. SOMEBODY in this world was able to watch this movie and honestly say that they went through the exact same thing in school. They're the ones whose stories can make a difference and help prevent this emotional abuse among high school girls. It's never going to go away if people keep assuming that it's all just unrealistic ans blown out of proportion. With a mindset like that, of course the bad behavior is going to continue. People need to realize that this is serious stuff, and there are real students going through these same things right now. The first step is understanding that it's not all just a joke or a plea for attention. In so many cases, it's the real deal, and it needs to be handled accordingly.

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I also read the book "Odd Girl Out" by Rachel Simmons. It does happen, and no doubt will continue to happen. I guy would not understand. Did it happen years ago? Yes. Does it happen now? Yes. Not all girls are mean, but when girls are mean, they are evil. Read the book - maybe you will understand this better. When girls are mean, it's under the radar and next to impossible to prove/pin down. But you can bet your last penny, this happens and continues to happen. Maybe not at every school in the nation, but things like this are not a rare occurance.

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well actually this kind of bullying happened to me.
so yes it is realistic.
and it's a great movie.
diagree with you 100%

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I wanted to give my short review on this movie and start it off by saying, bitches be crazy. In high school, I never saw this happen to any guys but I hear the situation in this movie is realistic to girls in high school. If that is the case, I'm glad I have a penis.

These chicks were pretty pathetic and sadistic to use a lot of their time and effort with nothing better to do than f[%]uck up this chick's day... every day. They really bust her balls. It was a stupid move on the lead character's part, though, to keep clicking on the links in their I.M.'s that had little animations making fun of her. I don't know what's more stupid: that she would continue to click them or that the bitches would be on her buddylist at all and she wouldn't block them after the first site. She shows up at her fake-ass friend's party when no one's there, then she has a big hissy fit and runs away in the rain, but yo, your mom is your ride! You're gonna break down, then have a silent awkward drive home, then start crying again as soon as you get out of the car at your house? Melodramatic.



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I thought this movie was very realistic. In 8-7th grade I went through the same thing. I was in a group of friends and they all turned on me. Talked about me behind my back, threatened me, and said the most awful things. One of the girls would pretend to be my friend and then turn around and talk behind my back to other girls. I ended up starting self-multilation (cutting) and become depressed. This movie IS realistic and this DOES happen. There are so many mean girls and guys out there who just...get joy from bringing other people down.


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Boys do this all the time as well. Didn't you watch the movie? That curly-haired boy filmed her getting put into the ambulance and then uploaded it so everyone could watch it. He and his friends also harrassed her in the halls.

Boys are just as bad. Don't kid yourself. I remember boys in my middle school hissing some terrible names at kids, calling them "f*gg*t" and "sl*t."

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After reading this thread I am convinced that most people who don't believe this sort of garbage happens must be male, since this isn't historically how boys bully each other.

I was a victim in 7th grade of a girl who came from my elementary school. She had no business advancing to the SP junior high, but was passed to that level because her mother had been president of the elementary school's PTA. Which meant that about another dozen others in between also had to be allowed that option. The other two girls who went to the same school were my two closest friends.

Allie, as I will call her, set about to alienate my friends from me. She instigated various forms of bullying including, but not limited to, nasty notes, hiding my purse, moving her chair all the way back to shove my desk back as far as possible so I couldn't get up (Some of the classrooms had movable desks and chairs). This went on all through 7th grade and part of the 8th. I'm not sure why it stopped; maybe some teacher got a clue because my mother certainly didn't.

However, Karma is a bitch with PMS. In high school Allie flunked out of both algebra and French. Years later I heard she never went to college. It was obvious to me that she envied my grades.

My friendships with the two other girls were never the same, though. One of them died from leukemia some time ago and the other found me on Classmates.com and sent me an e-mail, but never answered the one I sent back to her. When I last saw her in person she expressed regret for 7th grade, and I knew she hadn't gotten over her guilt.

Oh, well...

Anyway, this all has confirmed that I made the right decision never to have kids.


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Well good for you for never having to deal with this. This happens all the time. And girls are ruined because of it. You have no idea what it's like to not want to go to school because of rumors little betch's are spreading about you. You can't trust anyone anymore and have problems with people for the rest of your life. It's not realistic? You just haven't experienced it.

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First off, this girl must have had a lot of issues. She is scared she's fat, and she isn't and she should know that. I know lots of girls have problems with their weight, but seriously, that video of vanessa eating and getting fatter? That wasn't only unrealistic, but she shouldn't have paid attention to them in the first place. She was super naiive about everything that happens in this movie. The entire thing is bad acting, and things that barely ever happen. I am in high school right now, and this is not realistic whatsover to what happens to people in schools. And if this stuff does happen to you, you seriously need to stand up for yourself, tell them to *beep* off, and life your life for god's sake.

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