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Do people get the difference between British and English?


just asking.

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I know as do most people in the UK. However, it would seem quite a few Americans do not (no offense!). Although I am only judging this from the American users of IMDB, which itself is not great source of IQ!

Yorkshire is a place. Yorkshire is a state of mind.

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I do believe (as an American), that British refers to anyone from Britain (Including Scotland, Wales and England), while English is people from England only. I hope I'm right. Can anybody verify for me?

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Yeah your right.

Just dont make the mistake of calling somebody from Scotland or Wales English.
It bothers them. If in doubt say (Are you Birtish?)

Im Socttish

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Then what is the United Kingdom?

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The UK is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.


Yorkshire is a place. Yorkshire is a state of mind.

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The United Kingdom is another term for Great Britain plus Northern Ireland. The United Kingdom of Britain essentially.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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My father-in-law was in Cuba one time having a few drinks at a bar on the resort he was visiting. There was a wedding going on and the group was from Ireland and they had essentially taken over the bar. They kept referring to my father-in-law as a "Yank."

Being Canadian he was slightly offended but let it go for awhile. Eventually it started to annoy him, so he called one of them a limy. The bar went silent. They didn't appreciate that very much, but hey, turnabout is fair play. By the end of the night they were boozing it up together.


Im Socttish


I've always wanted to visit Soctland. :P

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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You write “your” (Possessive tense) and not “you’re” (contraction of “you are”) and then bitch about Yanks’ misuse of language. Let me introduce your stupid ass to my girlfriend, Olga Fuckyourself.

Yes, she’s from Ukraine. Did my load on her chin give her away?

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"I do believe (as an American), that British refers to anyone from Britain (Including Scotland, Wales and England), while English is people from England only."



Well basically yes you are right. But your forgot Cornwall and Northern Ireland.

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Cornwall is part of England and Northern Ireland isn't a part of Britain but it is in the United Kingdom.

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You mean Northern Ireland isn't part of Great Britain (the large island that England and Scotland and others are on). But, it is a part of Britain, as in the United Kingdom. The matter is so confusing that even most Britons can't describe it in entirety. I'm as knowledgeable on the matter as I possibly can be and I still have no idea how some of the islands like Isle of Man and Guernsey fit in. They're British but not British, or something?

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"Northern Ireland isn't a part of Britain but it is in the United Kingdom."

Your right.

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It's you're right, not your right.

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When you say American, do you mean North American or South American?

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People always gripe about USA being called "America" because America can refer to all the regions in North and South America. It's always brought up condescendingly like the person is super ignorant or something.

It's the only country with "America" in it's title, that's why we call it that for short. If course everyone knows this, don't even know why it needs to be brought up smh.

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Generally, if someone says that they are English, they tend to be waving an England flag. This puts them in the category of Daily Mail reader, football supporter, member of the BNP or, frequently, all three. It is much safer to say that you are British.

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Yea because to be English is clearly a racist thing to be.

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For a lot of Americans, the term "British" also seems to encompass Ireland, Australia, New Zealand and, on occasion, South Africa. It's like a catch-all for any English-speaking country not on the American continent.

As far as I can tell, this is mostly because they have trouble telling the accents apart.

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I find it is easy enough to tell the difference between Americans from the Southern states, Texas, broad New York and New England. After that I would be a bit pressed. I am not sure I could identify someone specifically from Canada.
I'm also not sure I could tell the difference between Australia and New Zealand.
I would have thought though that South Africa and and Ireland would be easy enough.

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You can the difference between an Aussie and a Kiwi because they swap their I's an E's around.

For example, Aus say Fish and Chips, NZ say Fesh and Cheps.


Yorkshire is a place. Yorkshire is a state of mind.

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Austrialian's say "Where's the caaahr." Kiwi's say "Where's the caah."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2gii2nenUg

This clip makes me laugh really hard. One of the best episodes of the series.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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Nz is more like fush and chups.
I never used to be able to tell the difference between oz & nz accents until i moved to nz (from england). oz accents are much whinier! lol




The details of my life are quite inconsequential.

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I'm from Scotland. I do not have a problem with being referred to as British though I prefer Scottish. "Britishness" though is not something I can identify with outside the fact that I enjoy the freedoms, protections etc of HM Government of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland.

I think "British" has different connotations depending on the context and the user. In Northern Ireland, for instance, there is a divide where those one one side definitely do not welcome the term British and prefer Irish and on the other hand there's those that do identify with being British and would prefer that term to Northern Irish sometimes. Those on the British side there however don't necessarily have any great love for the English, just as it is here in Scotland for those that do identify with being British.

It's in England where the terms English and British are pretty much synonymous and interchangeable. British being a rather more benign term and does not carry the same historical and political connotations. Or at least the English appreciation of those connotations is far less important to the English.

Simply put, the application of the word British in a Scottish or Northern Irish context can imply, to some, a loss of historical national identity and sovereignty which can be traced back to the various treaties and acts of union which have brought about the United Kingdom as we know it today. In England that is inverted into a implication of solidarity, progress and (though for some nutjobs) conquest. It just depends who's playing who at football that day.

I can't speak for Wales because, as far as I know, they're not even a nation as they were in fact conquered by the English for good and all.

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British is basically anyone from Wales, Scotland or England(People from Great Britain). English refers to people specifically from England.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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The United Kingdom
Great Britain
The British Isles
Britain
England
Wales
Scotland
Northern Ireland

No wonder non-Brits get confused. I know plenty of British people who get confused as the differences between the first four.

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