Who is the worst local character?
3rd worst: the large plumber
2nd worst: Elaine
Worst of all: the park ranger
Where's your crew?
On the 3rd planet.
There IS no 3rd planet!
Don't you think I know that?
3rd worst: the large plumber
2nd worst: Elaine
Worst of all: the park ranger
Where's your crew?
On the 3rd planet.
There IS no 3rd planet!
Don't you think I know that?
Louisa by far - why would she marry a man who she obviously doesn't even like. Her constant frustration with Martins behavior is irritating, what does she expect?
Burt Large - his character is repulsive to me, sorry.
Louisa isn't the one who keeps coming back..she has written him off a dozen times, but at the end of each season, the Doc has a melt down, and pours his heart out to her about how much she means to him, and he loves her. Each time, she gives in, hoping THIS will be the time he actually makes good on his promises to try to change, but each time, again, he gets worse and worse. Both of them should work harder to please the other if they are to make this thing work..which they obviously both want to...and that's not even addressing the baby they had together. You can see it all over the Doc's face when he realizes he's losing his family yet again.
shareI really enjoyed ALL of the characters! There isn't a bad one in the lot....they are very well developed characters and can be compared to any number of people you might run across in real life. The phenomenal acting by each of them is what provokes such strong reactions by viewers...they are so believable you can't help but feel annoyance or affection. This whole series is a shot in the arm for those of us craving intelligent, creative drama (no pun intended!). Lets hope they keep the series going...!
I couldn't agree more! My husband and I watch these shows over and over ..I can't fathom what all the hate is in this forum..They are meant to be quirky townsfolk who all have their own unique way of getting under the Doc's skin. I wish there were people like that in my neighborhood..most are friendly, goodhearted people..people you really would love to sit down with a cup of tea, or a whiskey..and just chat with for an hour or two. If PC Penhale was a smart, serious practical man..where would that leave us? What sort of a show would it be if all the characters lost their oddness, and individuality? If that's what some people are looking for, this isn't the show for them. We love it, and hope it doesn't change..with the one small exception of possibly having the Doc soften the edges now and again, like he did in the beginning of the series.
shareThe whole show is based on the exaggeration of the quirky odd-ball character traits people have! Perhaps some people are disliked as they feature in people you dislike in real life. It is fiction, no one to dislike, but can see all the traits in some people just not exaggerated as in Doc Martin.
sharePC Penhale gets my vote. His predecessor, PC Mylow, was also quirky and socially inept, but at least competent as a police officer. The writers present Penhale as so meek and phobia-ridden as to be ineffective as an agent of the law, and frequently a catalyst for inflaming already volatile situations. We're in the midst of Series 5 here in the U.S., and last night, it was wonderful to see him finally grow a pair and exile a father-son loan shark operation from the village...only to endanger Martin and Louisa's infant son in an attempt to play at covert ops in the episode that followed.
The other villagers, no matter how annoying they prove to Dr. Ellingham, are believable characterizations of people we've all encountered at some point in life. Even the unbalanced park ranger, whose second appearance during PC Mylow's ill-advised bachelor excursion pushed the metaphoric envelope about as far as it could go, was an otherwise reasonable characterization of people who deliberately choose solitary professional and personal lives - I've encountered a few such folks in real life, and their disparate reasons for avoiding socialization are often frighteningly apparent.
Wow, wonder why you're only at season 5. We're in the midst of season 6 in our little corner of the USA.
shareSeason 6 starts in Connecticut (with much fanfare and pledge-groveling) next month.
shareSo stingy! I'm able to get the complete season 6 DVDs at three different libraries. Feel sorry for you folks out there on the other coast.
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Way out west many of us don't mind the wait, we love spoilers.
Like most series this one will follow the 5-7 rule, more than likely ending at S6. If you don't end on a high, it forestalls sales and re-runs.
Like most series this one will follow the 5-7 rule, more than likely ending at S6.
PC Penhale, he's just too dimwitted and it grates on the nerves after awhile. He's the only one I find annoying on the show.
shareDitto ten times. So aggravating, and the character really is out of place on the show. To me, the basic appeal of Doc Martin's character is that he is the perfect antithesis of the modern era, in that he is 100% substance and absolutely zero style. He is brilliant and terrifically competent, while refusing to make people feel good about themselves in any false or superficial way (or any way at all, I guess), in an era when people are exactly the opposite, constantly worrying about self-esteem and feeling good whether they have any competence or actual worth whatsoever. Even the other townspeople at least attempt to have some minimal degree of competence at what they do. And into that group comes Penhale, who is so bad it feels very much like a shark-jumping kind of character, a character whose very existence is the essence of shark-jumping (the introduction of an element that would never happen in anything like real life), the kind who seems to be on a different plane or in a different show.
His character would be much better if it were written with the idea of a semi-pompous, over-officious policeman in love with the jargon of the field, maybe a guy who finds it hard to say simply "I don't know" and instead launches into all kinds of Cliff Clavinisms, but who actually is sort of competent at the job itself. Anybody can write a relentlessly stupid character. Writing a more complex one, one more like the people you've actually seen, is at the same time more difficult and far more interesting and worthwhile.
You ask yourself: Could somebody like Martin exist? Absolutely. I know at least a few myself. Couple of them are good friends, actually. Could Bert Large exist? Sure -- a guy who's kind of fumbling his way through learning an entirely different business than the one he was in most of his life. Al? Morwenna? Ruth? Louisa? Yep. Every one. Not one of them seeming to come from a slapstick or fantasy kind of world. And then we have...Penhale. Just a bad move by the writers.
And then we have...PenhaleI too narrowed the choices of bad village regulars down to PC Penhale using much the same reasoning. PC Penhale is too much of an idiotic caricature who downgrades the quality of each episode where he features in the plot.
Sure, each character has some exaggerated flaw for the sake of making a story happen, but, I can imagine a real person who could be like each other villager except PC Penhale.
Only two get the ewww from me, the woman who server her husband tainted road kill, and the man who created a charming smell in the village, using his barbecue
shareI cannot STAND Louisa. Yes, Elaine is disrespectful and lazy. But Louisa is constantly seeking Doc Martin out to argue. Terrible, terrible person. And she is a teacher? You would think she would have more sense.
So, in order, my top three:
Louisa
Louisa
Louisa
Louisa...she gets more annoying every season.
Best character: Ruth Ellingham. She's a welcome addition to the cast. Eileen Atkins can do no wrong.
"The flip side of fear is understanding."
Worst local character for me is a tie and toss-up between Mrs. Tishell and Elaine. Tishell is a lunatic, and that combination of her possessive attitude toward Martin and her constantly trying to play up that she's a "medical professional" annoyed the hell out of me.
Elaine was just, well, ugh. Lazy, stupid and annoying. Why the entire town seemed to like her so much was a mystery; you'd think that as clueless as she was, she'd have pissed off at least SOME of them.
Favorite locals are Burt Large and Aunt Ruth. Burt's a schemer and can be a bit mean at times, but he does have his good side and genuinely cares about his family; recall the episode where he discusses the patronage of Al, and is so afraid that Al would find out he wasn't his father. Or the very first episode, where he's the guy who talks Martin into staying by showing him a list of all the people who have problems. Greedy and lazy, yes, but still a nice enough guy.
Aunt Ruth was more interesting to me than Aunt Joan. No particular reasons, I guess, other than she's the only other person in town who is also a trained professional like Martin, so he has someone to talk with on his level. And, I admit, I liked that her introduction showed that she has a soft side, when he told her she wasn't going to die from a disease she thought she had; her reaction was great.
Here's to the health of Cardinal Puff.
Bernnard_Black said...
"Worst local character for me is a tie and toss-up between Mrs. Tishell and Elaine. Tishell is a lunatic, and that combination of her possessive attitude toward Martin and her constantly trying to play up that she's a "medical professional" annoyed the hell out of me.
Elaine was just, well, ugh. Lazy, stupid and annoying. Why the entire town seemed to like her so much was a mystery; you'd think that as clueless as she was, she'd have pissed off at least SOME of them."
My sentiments exactly.
But I hate the Docs aunt too. I couldn't bear it when the painter was screwing her on the kitchen table. (shudder).
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For me, it doesn't get much worse than the whacko pharmacist with the neck brace (can't recall her name), who dogs Martin's steps and kidnaps his and Louisa's child while jacked up on various drugs! She's obviously still unstable.
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1: Elaine, hands down.
Nothing at all redeeming about her character. She was always miserable and nasty. She was obviously written to be a thorn in Dr. Martin's side, but they went much further than necessary and created a character who could have easily killed the show. Wise choice to get her out of the way.
2. Louisa.
Outside of her relationship with Martin, she's at best bland. No harm, no foul. However, with Martin she is impatient, intolerant, judgmental, self-righteous and when pushed to anger, a bully. She constantly badgers and berates Martin for his short comings and expects him to close all the distance between the two of them. Her interest in him seems to be tied solely to her awe of his medical skill and the fact that he is James Henry's father. Take away the baby and there is no relationship and Ruth was spot on to tell Martin not to stay in Portwenn on account of the child. Louisa needs to see Martin for who he is and quit expecting him to be who he isn't. Yes, she can help him to open up and socialize better, but she will never make him 'normal'. As the series has progressed, I have come to enjoy all the sub-plots far more than the central dynamic of Martin and Louisa.
3. (tie). PC Penhale and post breakdown Ms. Tishell.
I don't dislike PC Penhale per se, but I am frustrated that he has been written exclusively as the town fool. He really is so lovable, so well meaning, the producers need to allow him to succeed just a little more often to give him some credibility.
Ms. Tishell was a wonderful comic foil with her thinly veiled obsession for Dr. Martin, and the show would have done well had she never progressed beyond that point. Her only shortcoming was her unfair relationship with Clive and I really hoped the producers would steer her character towards a new found awareness for him. The season 5 finale was a great episode, but I hated the fact that they effectively killed Ms. Tishell's character and made her the baddy. Shortsighted and unnecessary; they could have steered that episode along similar plot lines without destroying her.