What Did The LGBT Think Of This Film?
I was just curious to know what the community thought of it.
sharethey liked it but not as much as Spider-Man 2
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Lesbians tend to hate anything that's sympathetic to transwomen being accepted as real women, so 90% of lesbians probably hated it.
Gay men hate anything that confirms transwomen do, in fact, want their cocks GONE, and therefore proves we aren't just confused drag queens.
Therefore I'd guess a lot of them hate it.
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most fools do." - Benjamin Franklin.
I don't know where you're getting your "facts" from. I'm a lesbian. My wife and I are 100% supportive of transgender people.
As to the movie I liked it overall. It had a few minor flaws but considering it was the first mainstream movie dealing with the subject I can't complain too much.
As to the movie I liked it overall. It had a few minor flaws but considering it was the first mainstream movie dealing with the subject I can't complain too much.
Actually, it was probably?(I'm guessing) "The Christine Jorgensen Story," back in 1970, that was the first mainstream movie to deal with the subject of transsexuality. It wasn't near as good as "Transamerica," though.
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Wow, Purrrple.... you sure do have some assumptive generalizations regarding millions of people. I'm a G who loves this film. I'd go on about your ignorance further, but it would be more effective to have you read your Benjamin Franklin quote.
What do you think I asked you here for? Company?!?!?!?
I am a gay man and I love it. Very funny and sweet. Although I certainly don't speak for the entire community.
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Love it too, and also this movie 20 centímetros.
shareI'm a straight woman and I came into this thread out of curiosity, but I just thought it was really interesting what was said here: "Lesbians tend to hate anything that's sympathetic to transwomen being accepted as real women, so 90% of lesbians probably hated it."
I never considered that before, and it genuinely surprised me. As a woman I've never felt any resentment or anamosity towards transwomen for wanting to be accepted as "real women." Of course I would accept them as women!
I just wondered why this statement might be true for lesbians in particular. Is it that they tend to have a more difficult time accepting transwoman because they themselves have had to fight so hard in our scoiety to feel accepted as real women? Maybe someone has some more perspective on this? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
I wish that if that's the case than more lesbians would find themselves even more sympathetic and accepting of trandgener women, because they know how hard it can be to feel ostresized just for being honest with themselves and trying to live the life they want.
Not all lesbians, but the majority I've met reall trash on transwomen. Lesbians tend to more militant with their feminism, and see transwomen as castrated men trying to invade their women only spaces or usurp their priveledge. It's exceptionally narrow and stupid but sadly true.
There's even a gay rights organization, HRC, that actively excludes transpeople from it's initiatives, (except when they want our money for the cause, but they stop playing nice as soon as the cheque clears), going so far as to call the ploice on trans protestors protesting legally outside a hotel where HRC was holding a fundraiser, protesting HRC's exclusion of trans people from everything they do for glbt rights.
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most fools do." - Benjamin Franklin.
I dont understand you people...as a gay 22 yo man living with a lesbian couple in Chicago...I encounter NOTHING but open arms and accepting for transgendered people. i have a friend who recently had his breasts removed to further his female-male transition. i not only accept him as a real man, but am proud he wants to be a man as well.
and for lesbians hating or not accepting transwomen...this is laughable. i am an advocate at a LGBT youth center, have my my masters is psychology and G&L studies, and have spoken at many functions and met hundreds of lesbians who would simply love to disagree with these harsh statements
"and for lesbians hating or not accepting transwomen...this is laughable. i am an advocate at the LGBT youth center, have my my masters in psychology and G&L studies, and have spoken at many functions and met hundreds of lesbians who would simply love to disagree with these harsh statements"
You should read lesbian feminist, Janice Raymond's book The Transsexual Empire: the Making of the She-Male. Probably still available on Amazon.
Fortunately, I haven't met many gays and lesbians hostile to transsexuals myself, but I've never been in any organizations, and the such...I met them merely by chance when we worked together. share
no thats exactly my point, did i not make it clear? sorry if i got muddled there...i havent met any out of all those gay women and men who are hostile or unaccepting of transexuals
shareYour experience is the exception hon, not the rule. Do some bloody research.
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most fools do." - Benjamin Franklin.
no - this hateful idea of the world is YOUR opinion and the vast majority of the community will agree that there is absolutely no animosity towards the transitioning. do my research? my life is this bloody research.
shareWell I'm a lesbian and its not true for me nor for any lesbians I know. I have friends in the process of changing from MTF and FTM and I don't have a problem with any of them. I loved this film!
shareFirst, off, let's avoid stereotypes, shall we? The transwoman-hating-lesbian-thing was much more common in the 70s when the lesbian movement was just starting and finding their identity and the trans movement was young too. Both are older and wiser now and there's relatively little animosity left, tho it still exists in the older generation. Most feminists have realized that transgenderism is not patriarchal. In most people, transgenderism builds on feminism. In my generation, the under 30 trans generation, we happily embrace both women and men and femininity and masculinity equally.
shareI'm trans (intergender) and I loved it. It portrayed people in both our strengths and weaknesses. Trans people often are not portrayed either fairly or accurately in the media but this film did both.
There are parts of Bree's character I disagree with. For instance, the idea that surgery will turn her life around. Or her insistence of staying stealth. I think trans people should be out as much as possible. But that's more a point of contention I have with the rest of my trans community than with the film.
My only disappointment, I guess, was not casting a trans woman to play Bree. But that's getting extremely picky.
I'm gay, 24, and I thought it was great. I hope it's had some impact on society. A friend of mine who is also gay (and 24!) loved it and recommended it to me. There are surely some LGBTs that don't like trans people but there are surely some that don't like/understand each of the categories. I don't think it's rife and it should be pretty easy to argue away with any reasonable LGBT, simply because of the relative position that people like us share (I mean animosity towards all LGBTs from a number of non-LGBTs).
shareFirst, I'd like to say "Purrrple"'s first comment is racist and offensive. Did you know 97% of all statistics are made up on the spot? you can't say "all lesbians think this" or "all gay men think that". You haven't met ALL gay men or women and asked them their opinion, have you? Being LGBT doesn't mean you have to think or behave a certain way! I was really offended by your comment.
Secondly, I love this film! Very well written and executed
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Racist? Really?...wow.
To say there is no push back from lesbians or natural born women against trans at all would be ignorant. To say it's 90% of lesbians that dislike trans...would be the same.
The fact of the matter is...Tgirls don't fit in with the other trio (being LBG). It has nothing to do with sexuality. A trans person isn't challenging something that LBG's are living with. Rather they're forcing people to question exactly what it is to be a "sex". Your stance on that subject isn't codependent on your stance of sexuality. T's joined the group simply because there are too few of them to get something accomplished on their own...they need a larger community to gain awareness. LBGT groups in general tend to drop T's from legislature at the drop of a hat if they believe in doing so will increase their chance of passing a measure.
Personally my opinion of the film was they made it into a comedy so it was more acceptable to the general public. Which has it's ups and downs...but overall it spreads awareness so ultimately it's a good thing. I didn't like the Brea character in general...but mainly because she embodied many of the characteristics that annoy me about my peers. At the same time she was the "average" tgirl...if there is such a thing. Though I think she was modeled more after someone that was earlier on in hormone therapy vs. someone that was ready for SRS.
"Though I think she was modeled more after someone that was earlier on in hormone therapy vs. someone that was ready for SRS."
Agreed. Bree came across to me as somebody who had only just gone full-time, not somebody who was a week from her SRS. There were lots of little details that were clearly due to script advisors who had been there themselves, but this wasn't one of them. It took me about 6 weeks to get over that initial self-consciousness and just get on with being me.
How would Transamerica have played if, in the opening scene, Bree had jumped out of bed, had a shower, thrown on jeans and a t shirt and frowned when she combed her hair and it stuck out all over the place anyway?
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Agreed. Bree came across to me as somebody who had only just gone full-time, not somebody who was a week from her SRS. There were lots of little details that were clearly due to script advisors who had been there themselves, but this wasn't one of them. It took me about 6 weeks to get over that initial self-consciousness and just get on with being me.
Not necessarily. I know a transsexual who had the surgery about three years ago overseas and she still obsesses over the tone of her voice, she still plays 'dress up,' etc. She doesn't work or do much of anything, but 'hang out' with other trans-folks.
How would Transamerica have played if, in the opening scene, Bree had jumped out of bed, had a shower, thrown on jeans and a t shirt and frowned when she combed her hair and it stuck out all over the place anyway?
LOL! That sounds like me!!
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...racist?
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