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absolute total disgrace


I enjoyed many parts of this movie

until I realized what kind of anti american bull it is.

the bad guy always wins, evil always prevails, america is the bad guy(the president being the worst)

the wost 5 dollars I've ever spent on a movie


this one goes straight to the trash

I cant believe cage lowers himself to such ignorant 4th grade politics

garbage

two thumbs way down to this 2 hours of ridiculous crap

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you think your opinion matters? you think that everyone is entitled? NO..go spend 5 bucks on the new steven seagull movie if you can't handle a serious script

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Why is the movie anti american?

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I didn't bother reading all of the threads to this discussion cos it was veryyyyyy boring :-)
It DOES say at the end of the movie that the story is based on true events. The movie is rumoured to be based on the Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout and his brother Sergei - the main differences being a) Sergei Bout isn't dead b)the Bout brothers are not actually Ukrainian, they were both born in Tajikistan and not, to my knowledge, raised in the USA c) neither of the Bout brothers are as attractive as Nic Cage or Jared Leto (ahhh, the joys of Hollywood casting).
However, they WERE closely affiliated to both Charles Taylor (the Liberian dictator) and Osama Bin Laden and were heavily involved in attempting to destabilise the African nations linked with arms-for-diamonds trading.
I see from the board that some of our American friends are getting a little irate about the supposed 'anti-american' message in this movie.
I am not an American, I am British, and under no illusions about the part that MY country may or may not play in world politics / peace / whatever you want to call it.
It is somewhat naive to believe that just because you love your country, your country is not and never has been involved in anything morally questionable.
It is common knowledge that the CIA allegedly 'tooled up' and trained what would eventually become the Taliban / al-Qaida in order for Afghanistan to fight the USSR. It is also suggested that the USA supplied the middle eastern countries which surround Iran with heavy duty weapons back in the 70's...and we all know who was living right next door to Iran...
We Brits are your 'best friend'. So that makes us just as bad. Except we face up to it and accept it, instead of getting irate about how 'anti-British' everyone is being...
Wake up. You're still allowed to be an American you know. It's not YOUR fault your government does questionable things sometimes, any more that it's my fault that MY country's government does sometimes does questionable things....
Isn't it better to live in a world where we are free to question our actions? Isn't it better to face up to things that could have been done differently? Instead of just blindly saying 'We are brilliant all of the time and we never ever do anything wrong'?
How can anyone learn from or be humbled by their mistakes if they cannot accept criticism?

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Cry about it some more. I'm sure that'll put your point across better.

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It may seem "Un-American" to you, but that's because you're not seeing what's under the surface here. Because if you did, I doubt that would even pop into your head. Americans like you need some serious history education, reality check and detachment from brainwashing. People like you are people that get easily manipulated by your own government, though I don't blame you, any government is really good at it or else they wouldn't be called a GOVERNment at all.

America is just as guilty as anyone else with its crimes against the world and humanity. War is undeniably had become an industry, governed by supply and demand as any other industry. America being one of the leading countries to supply arms, sees opportunity to capitalize with conflicts. As with any country, we do not get involved in these conflicts unless we see BIG benefits for ourselves. It's very important that you understand that, because we don't just go into countries expecting NOTHING to gain. America does whatever it TAKES to get a job done, clean or dirty, right or wrong, American or Un-American (even kill its own loyal men)... big-effin'-period.

This movie served up truths about illegal arms dealing very honestly and it's only ONE aspect of ONE country's sin. There's a lot that goes in between that includes the GOOD and the WORSE America has contributed to the world.

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Let's take political stands on the imdb board please everyone make their voice heard. Post or die like Mr. Pdiddy said or is it P Diddy? With words like "WORSE" I will really get my point across to those that just didnt want to listen to me in the first place. To others I will put out facts that I heard from another website or two and make them my own because I am smarter than America since they invaded Vietnam and eat McDonald's. And others that dont see my opinion on a movie should just be ashamed for themselves because art is not up to interpretation at all in the least bit. It's only up to the person that posts the most on imdb.com. It's science, deal with it

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How can you not see the American Government as evil?

The American Government is made up of skin headed neo nazi fascist inbred drug addicted rednecks who like to abuse the living sh it out of smaller countries and create a false (well in the case of nazis and russians true) image of their enemies.

The American Government says it wishes to abolish poverty and dictation, but they only do that when it works for them. Did they do that with Osvaldo Dorticós Torrado? No, they loved him and let him ruin the country, and when someone had the balls to do something they painted that one as a monster.

Now the American people are victims even if they don't know it, but those who support their fascist government are the same as their government. They are the horned ones. The beasts that ruin our world.

Conquer Your Fear, and you will Conquer Death

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God Bless America.

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Well I guess the film industry should just make films glamorizing the US since it's the most perfect country on the planet. How dare it display a reality in such a...real...sense? Blasphemy, slander, blasphemy, slander. Hide the world.

Lights. Camera. Action. Death.

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I didn't read the whole thread, but this movie is full of it. Israel is actually the world's 4th leading arms dealer. Fact. Why am I not surprised that this was changed?

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your mother's {()} smells like hot dog water and desperation

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Hmmm. Vulgar, ugly, uncreative and intellectually worthless. Points to only one thing, really.

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Points to your mom's cavernous and rank stink hole that she's been passing off as a vagina to every swinging dick for the past fifty years

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I think the only way this would be anti-American would be if they showed EVERY SINLGE American dealing arms (yes, the children too).

It might be anti-Governmental Corruption, but certainly it is not anti-American.

"...and I looked up, to the vast expanse and majesty of the Cosmos, and was humbled."

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