we saw this in class and most said 'what did she expect?'

The logic your class implys goes along with the same excuse used by many people: if a woman dresses to provocativley and gets raped... "if she dresses like that what does she expect"? I'm Suprised more women or girls arn't raped all the time at parties or bars what do they expect from drinking and being near men. The reasons listed are ignorant and highly naive. Any day, any time, women with common sense make a mistake. I hope the women in this class and yourself never make mistake(with all your 'common sense and street smarts') because parties are not the only place to be assaulted and the excuses you guys listed should not be sufficent enough to justify the rape of a woman, let alone a minor.

You have yet to go to a party where a girl hasn't been assaulted??! Is this serious?

I think this is part of the problem. I'm not blaming you. We are socialized to believe that men and boys have uncontrollable sex drives (a real man will have sex anywhere, anytime, with anyone attractive) and that women have to plan their behavior accordingly to be safe. If so, why don't we also carry bed pans in case men have other uncontrollable body urges of other varieties. Come on. People are responsible for their own actions. Men can control themselves, and women aren't automatically available sexually because they are women. It's sad that half the population has to live in fear of the other.

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You're an idoit, OP.

She was 14! Getting in a car with a guy is not consenting to sex. She probably thought they would make out, maybe get to second base. She did not want to have sex with him, he took it way too far.

I feel sorry for you. Blaming the victim, seriously?! Maybe we should all just cover ourselves from head to foot and have our vaginas sewn up so men can't rape us too? Instead of teaching our daughters not to get raped, we should be telling our son not to rape. Blaming the victim is basically condoning what the rapist did and despite what anyone says, every woman will be alone, or in a 'dangerous' position at some point in our lives. Should someone judge you if this happens to you?

Wow, that's horrific. Victim blame much?

Yeah, it's good to not drink in unusual situations, but people do. Especially teenagers who are stupid, and yes some are more stupid than others. I didn't go to parties with strangers, older people, or drink as a teen either (well except with my parents). Being stupid does NOT mean other people, older, more experienced people, have a free pass to commit a crime. Sure you can teach people to protect themselves and all that but there's only so much you can do. Basically any time a woman goes out she can be raped, so what are the protective suggestions? It's not like they've found a link between certain clothing and rape, or something. It can strike anywhere.

Also, reading the book she wanted to make friends, have fun, she thought he liked her and she'd have a real boyfriend. She did not expect it to happen and didn't see why it would.

Victim blaming is wrong and unhelpful for so many reasons. Sad to know your social group completely missed the point of the film.

>"Those things rarely end well. I have yet to go to a party where a girl hasn't been assaulted, somewhere-somehow."

Okay who the hell do you hang round with? That is messed up.

Are you saying women shouldn't leave their houses? Lmao.

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It was a disaster waiting to happen.

1.) a man wanted sex
2.) the girl said no
3.) the man didn't care
4.) the man CHOSE to commit rape, knowing full well that she didn't consent

Those things rarely end well when a person chooses to commit rape. I have yet to go to a party where a man hasn't demonstrated monstrous and disturbing levels of disrespect, entitlement, and superiority

He made the situation worst by

1.) Hearing no
2.) Ignoring it
3.) Raping

She was only getting out of 8th grade, still a child, forced to grow up far too quickly because of the actions of another person victimizing her, but me and my friends demonstrate self-righteous judgementalism and limited worldview even at our age, thanks to our parents apparent failure at teaching empathy.


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